Through The Eyes Of A Natural -pt#2

[organizedconfusion]

'MIND-POWER SEDUCTION'

without giving away too much..

in my early 20's after a long history if being with girls already
i still had the problem of being introverted and shy, i found it painfull and hard to even communicate or even be in the presence of people.
so i had to be the 'freak show' for a while and actually
had to 'remove myself' from the crowd.
i had to actually make myself the odd man out in order to
'learn' how to socialize.
it became an obsession and i basiclly studied,watched and
figured it all out ..because i had to if i ever wanted to
ever be with anyone ever again.both in relationships and
freindships this was during my early 20's...

alot of what i learned i had to do it the
hard way. through trial and error, ALOT of modeling and
'people watching' , alot of introspection and internalization,
looking back, living inside my mind, testing places ,things,
people and situations did i ever come up with the ideas
and theories on my own ( i am sure there are others
also have figured this stuff out)

i developed a system called 'mind power seduction'
which i am in the developments for the past five years.
basicly using your mind and it's full abilities to attract
and seduce ..what else?
girls!

there is such a garganjuan ammount of information including
feild reports and theories braught together and i am in the
final stages of making it work.

it's different then the MM and RSD and DYD but it does
cover universal things like mindset,belief systems and
the use of body language.

but the approach is totally unique and different.
without CF or value building routines or any type of lines to use.
it's all based on YOUR own natural abilities and talents.
some people are givers, some are takers , some are extroverts
and introverts- this system specifically works with your
own natural 'type'. and it's also based on a priciple of
opposites attract,givers + takers, intorverts + extroverts,
charmers + coquettes etc.
i see the only flaw with present systems like
some can't use CF because they aren't naturlly ****y and it's
incongurent. some don't like the idea of falsly projecting
a high value status without having anything of high value to
project..

it's all about reconizing who and how you really are and
developing your own personality the way it's naturally
supposed to develop ,knowing exactly what you want and
being able to get it. i's about being attractive because you are
YOU and NOT being some CF alpha male a$$hole if you
are not just get girls.Don't confuse this with being an
"AFC" and being yourself..it's not...
it's about being 'yourself' your 'best self' as i would call it.
EVERYONE is born with their natural attractive traits within
them, it's now time to discover those traits that make us
unqiue and genuine and naturally attractive-
not just a bunch of CF/alpha male 'clones'.

okay- in summary i am developing a system of
being able to go anywhere ,anytime ,anyplace and
being able to automaticlly attract the people/situations you want into your life. instantly.























i will chronical my seductions through a series of journels beggining in 2006-2010...

 

[Boner da Stoner]

This is not NEW stuff...

But it is the first time I have seen it put into THOSE words... bravo, keep it to yourself man... I am amazed at your abilities... like the first person who I can actually say you may be my dopple ganger.

In your opinion, what is the BAD aspect of being a GOOD ACTOR in comparison to the learning aspect of 'mind power seduction'?

haha Power Mind Seduction... tell girls you've got permanent PMS

 

[organizedconfusion]

there is no acting-
there is only 'being' or 'becoming'...


you actually 'become' the person you choose to
be at the 'core' instead of working on the 'outer personality'

when you alter the 'core' the rest takes care of itself...


'mind power seduction' i see it as actually the 'naturals'
way of doing things.
i have seen many 'naturals' do exact same things i just
described. i have viewed and listened to alot of
interviews with dating gurus on the DYD programs,
i noticed that they may give advice but what they didn't
examine was there belief systems and thought processess.

i'd like to see into the minds of David X,Rick H , Mystery ,TD and
even David D. just to examine their belief systems and
how they 'think'. i bet the 90% of their success comes from their
belief systems. There are tips here and there about living in
your own reality and that they think that all woman want them
all of the time,but i want more.

if you can model someones belief systems and thought
process , you can model their behaviors exactly and thus
have the same outcomes.




my quesion to everyone is ...


what is YOUR technique to create a strong attraction from
across the room without saying a word to her?

take me through the PROCESS of you guys technique for creating/
maintaining attraction... i am curious to see everyone elses
techniques...

 

[organizedconfusion]

Originally posted by Boner da Stoner
Good post confucion

I use this stuff when I'm next to dance floor... I generally don't dance unless I'm with a group and not lone sarging. When I'm alone I like to watch and study people dancing, with my body signals I get girls coming up to me all the time and initiating conversations... Most of the time I forget that I am sending out signals when I want to be alone, I pick up on the girls quick glance and I give em the lookdown while they are dancing, they get jiggy with it and give me a quick show, I smile, and they come over to me.

Thought it only works in a social scene for me, when it comes down to one on one, I feel the need to speak, and that's where I **** up!

... being introverted i didn't really say much anyways.
but what i noticed was that my body would scream out truths
that i would try to 'hide'. like when i didn't want to talk to a girl,
but i felt a strong attraction to her, my body would be facing her
while my head was turned and i am nervous or shy.

i notice that when i feel attracted but try to hide that fact or
ignore it, i get the opposite outcome. i actually end up sending out signals even more! when i turn towards her
i would expose my neckline & chest and i would be telegraphing
interest with my eyes. it's become habit for me. i actually have to
try to be 'less attractive' at times ,like when i am tired or depressed and just want to be alone my body would still be sending out signals.. i have to activily stop it and i look like i am
trying to 'hide' something...

when two people meet they mirror eachother automaticlly-
try this, go to a mall and when you spot someone coming towards
you and they see you ,look away and smile then look back at them..most will what you just did. some won't , the ones that do-
those are the ones you can influence in one way or another.
because mirroing is sub-concious, the one's that don't mimic you at first may take a little longer..why does this matter?
when approaching girls, checking to see if they sub-conciouslly
mirror you first could be a sign of being positivly influenced by you...



as far as talking for me....

i still don't really say much, i am pretty much quiet most of the time. thank god woman are emotional creatures and as long
as i can stir her emotions up and keep her interested
in that way, i don't have to say too much anyways...

sure i can discuss current events and have my own strong
opinions on certain issues, but is this a relationship or a debate team?

i strongly believe that if you can create an intense emotional
connecttion with a girl, she will become stuck on you...
no $hit on that one eh?

 

[SuPaF1y]

ok natural, lets see part #3 with that natural indiffrence you were talking about

 

[organizedconfusion]

read the post -'a shortcut to indifference'-

being indifferent isn't an answer to all though..
if i had the natural ability to be talkative and extroverted
i'd much prefer to be that way.
the only reason i came about being indifferent was because
i went on 'strike'- where i actually just gave up on the world
and not cared about anything and nothing effected me...
after a long time of being a 'try hard'.


heres an excersize-
IMAGINE how COMFORTABLE you are in your room RIGHT NOW,
on the computer , WITHOUT A CARE IN THE WORLD... totally just CHILL.

NOW IMAGINE yourself this RELAXED and COMFORTABLE in
EVERY SITUATION.

totally ZEN master like,while other guys are tripping over themselves to talk to a hot girl- you are totally chill and she
notices you FIRST. keeping your cool you are seen as more
attractive.



to me THATS the definition of INDIFFERENCE.
it's powerfull because you are soo comfortable that
nothing really effects you internaly and you are totally
detatched from the situation.

 

[organizedconfusion]

i just think that it's weird that there are now gonna be
a bunch of alpha/pua/wannabe 'clones' out there trying to
game on girls by acting like someone else-
someone else other then who they are.
i have met some natual alphas, some natural ****y funny
guys, some natural seducers..but thats just who they are.

of course it's always benificial to aquire someone elses
techniques or positive personality traits..but to
completly alter ones personality for the sake of
meeting girls sounds insane.

i was on the same course also for a while and i have
tried alot of the different things that were supposed to
be attractive-
from being CF to really confident to being indifferent...

it's not ME. and it's not anything i want to do indefinetly to
just meet woman. after reading and doing alot of reasearch,
it all boiled down to just doing your own thing and not
really caring about the girl... which seems odd because i
never really took a liking to girls in the first place.
i mean i do but i still feel no real emotional connection to them
in anyway today.

it seems like alot of the material nowadays deals with not
caring about woman and being self-centered,while
being an arrogant ,teasing, control freak that plays mind
games with people.

i didn't need to spend $5k for anyone to show me how to
act that way- thank god i am that way naturally..does this
mean it's always been easy to get girls?
hell no..
it just made me a big a$$hole
:crackup:



i still think it's funny that people are trying to improve themselves
just to get girls and be attractive...when all it really takes is
to be attractive in the first place and the rest will take care of
itself


the thing is..if you have to be ****y funny in order to meet and
keep a girl..that CF act must keep on going in order to maintain
the attraction,because thats how she is and it needs to be
maintained to keep her attracted. this works if you are naturally
CF,but if you are actually more of a nice guy...this may not work too well because over time the niceness wins through.

like if you are really inpatient person and you are just
patient in the presence of others but a raging lunitic
when you are alone. in time that anger will shine through and
she will see your true nature.

am i suggesting to be a raging lunatic if you are one?
no
i am merely suggesting that you take a closer look into what
your natural attractive traits are because those traits are
the ones that will stick with you for the rest of your life-
and if you don't use them , you could be missing out on the
best thing that could make you most attractive.

 

[SuPaF1y]

long story short i think your trying to say


"just be yourself"

and accept it.

 

[SuPaF1y]

btw.. do you think that you can "loose yourself" if you try to do somthing to hard for a long time and forget who you are or somthing??

 

[SuPaF1y]

how about this one.

"just be yourself" and dont think about anything just go with the flow and go from there.

 

[organizedconfusion]

not just yourself but your 'best self'

when someone says just 'be yourself' people automaticlly
assume the worst,because people usually assosiate too
many negative things with themselves and totally
forget the positives . ..or some people really just don't
know who they are and become even more confused.


thats why there are soo many things like DYD and RSD and
other self-help junk out there....
for someone else to tell you who you are for you
in case you don't know


suckers

 

[SuPaF1y]

lol u ****ymothaf*ka.

im not my best self, im my COOLEST,HOTTEST,SEXYEST self.

and no 1 can funk with that. period.

 

[organizedconfusion]

another thing i thought about was the whole
act high status stuff i learned about in the DYD/RSD material-

it's like your supposed to 'act' high status without having
anything really high status to back it up ,in terms of
activities or accomplishments in life.
experiances and activities that naturally builds ones
self-esteem and self-image -building high status naturally
is the answer here, not just 'acting' high status but
actually becoming high status.

i think thats where it kinda lacks on info.
you need to actually 'do' things to be high status
or have gained respect through that way.

i still think DYD/RSD materials have their place,
but only as information that opens up peoples eyes
to new view points and opinions ,but nothing that
should be taken literily.

yes, one could simply perfect how to 'act' in order just to
attract and lay a chick-thats the good part...
but you sell your soul to the devil in the process-





i'll tell the devil everyone says 'hi'...

 

[SuPaF1y]

but you sell your soul to the devil in the process-

^


thats the flucking truth if ive ever heard one.

once you figure out what makes women tick you becoming a NUMB nonfeeling heartless d1ck.. and thats the truth.

and you can feel hatred in you towards other people

 

[organizedconfusion]

when i first starting dabbling in seduction about four years ago
i thought it was soo cool how easy it was to get girls to have
sex with me. then i thought it was soo cool to have girls
fall in love with me and then control them emotionaly.
then i thought it was soo cool how i can get them obsessed
over me... now i feel sickened how easy it is to get someone
to fall for me. not just sex- but love.
and now i feel really jaded that it's soo easy.. almost too easy.

i feel as if i could get any girl if i put enough patience & concentrated effort into it , but then i ask myself 'why' and now
i no longer can answer that question anymore...

my 'old game' was how long did it take to get a girl...
now my 'new game' is who many things can i do
'wrong' and still get her in spite of those 'wrongs'.

in other words, if i could generate enough attraction-
would it matter if i did everything else wrong when i
did the one thing that mattered 'right'...

who knows, but i am willing to give it a shot...
just for kicks and a little excitment in my life.

 

[SuPaF1y]

ive been studying this stuff for over a year, and ive found 4 things that should be your core thoughts/actions that are summerised pretty good.

( 4 things that work for me )

1. A t t r a c t i o n 24~7

Basically find out attraction inside out and keep it turned on to everyone of the opposite sex.

2. I n d i f f r e n c e 24~7

Basically you want to not care either way for any outcome infront of you. think about the opposite happening in whatever is going on and not caring either way. it doesnt matter either way what happens. 1 person likes you. 100 people like you. it doesnt matter to you either way.


3. G r e a t n e s s 24~7

Basically think your the hottest, coolest, greatest, sexyest, fastest, best.

if your going to think about anything, think about how great you are and why your so great. think great things about yourself and think over the top.

4. R e l a x e d 24~7

Slowing your movements down a notch, slowing your mind down, your breathing down, everything that you do and think down makes you more relaxed in any situation you come into.

what do you think

edit: the only thing i havent really mastered is "bodylanguage". i just use my natural/making sure its not sloppy bodylanguage.

but i know people who use:

heads held to the sky, straight as a arrow, chest out, big gestures, big steps ect ect ect
its easy to mimic but hard to get it to happen naturally.

And, if you mimic it, it can come accrossed as "fake" when your whole body doesnt match 1 part of your body that you are trying to mimic...

hmmm... i'd like to perfect this area also but its a toughy. and once i perfect this part i can control the 85% of what i say.

 

[organizedconfusion]

have you rented the reccommended movies and did the
excersize yet?
if you haven't, i highly suggest that you do...
trust me

 

[SuPaF1y]

allright bro, ill give it a shot. i think im def on the right track.. and will accomplish what im goin for 110% very very soon.

 

[organizedconfusion]

all body langauage is, is a direct reflection/projection of the type of person you are. the best way i see it is to make a list of
traits you desire.
say-
charismatic
confident
whatever..and then in stead of 'pretending' to have those
traits by 'acting' a certain way or just mimicing the movements-
you can actually make a list of activities to build those
traits enternally naturally... so the movements and everything
else comes about naturaly.

 

[SuPaF1y]

hmm example please, you lost me