Three main tests all men face

[backbreaker]

I have some time to kill, so I thought I would try to enlighten some of you with some of my profound knowledge of women

This holds true to all women of any type of value.

I am even willing to say that I would be more leary of a girl that didn't present herself as a challenge than one that does.

Now, every woman, is going to give you one, or a combination of 3 different **** tests. which of all 98% of all men will fail one.

Because i have a bad habit of rambling wihtout saying anything, I will break it up into 3 different parts.. the test, what she is looking for, and a personal example I can draw upon from my past experiences in life showing how I handled.

1. Flaky initinal Interst.

This is when the girl, will, by design or by accident, flake on you.

Now, you don't know if she is doing it by design, or if she is doing just beacuse her initial interest in you isn't the same. This can be as simple as not calling back when she said she would, advoiding your calls, or if you get the date initially, just not seeming to be all that into you, when a couple of days ago she was basically begging you to take her.

What to do?

My last GF, at least last real GF, I met at Dillards the day before my 21st Birthday. In all honesty... I don't really dig women with short hair, and she had pretty short hair, but I loved her personality, and she was really spunky, so I said, what the hell and got her phone number.

So I call her the next day, and tell her I can take her out the next Sunday, which was the next day I didn't have anything going on, whcih was a week later.

She agreed, sounded excited, no signs of flakiness.

So Sunday Comes, I have the plan out, it's my first REAL date in 3 years, i'm nervous, excited, etc. Not so much because of her, but just because I was "back in the game" in general.

So I call her, she tells me she's ready. So I call back to get directions... she doesn't answer. Call back again? No answer. So I figure, she has my number, she knows I am trying to call her, I am being stood up.

Now, I am going make a plug for a book called "how to succed with women" It's a medium sized black book, that if I didn't read it in conjunction with this site, I never would have had a chanc with this girl.

The reason I say this is becuase of what happened. I called back, she said her "phone was acting up and she wanted to reschedule"

So it just so happens I wasn't doing anything the next night, so we rescheduled.

SSDD

Now according to sosuave.com, I should have waited for her to call me, or better yet, NEXT!

But what the book said in this case, made alot more sense.. you don't know what the **** is going on in her life.. I mean, she can very well be not interested in you, but give her the benefit of the doubt.

So I called her back, and this is exactly how the converstion went.

"Hey babe, what happened?"

Her: "My phone keeps messing up, I'm sorry"

Me: "whatever babe... look, I don't know you that well, but you seem like a nice and intelligent person, so I am going to be real with you for a second.. from what i see of you, I am feeling you.. your cute, you are funny, you have alot of engery and you seem to be nice. However, that doesn't mean I am going to wait around for you when you feel like you want to stop flaking out on me to get a date. So I am going to ask you out one more time, and if you go out with me, cool, and if you don't, that's cool as well, however you won't hear from me again"


Not only was she stunned I was so blunt with her, it's like she snapped out of whatever she was in and changed that instant.

I had wanted to reschedule the date for the up coming sunday, which was 4 days away.. She begged me to take her out THAT Night.. I had to cancel plans with my best friends, or at least shorten them, and the rest was history

Later down the line, I got the truth.. she said she was feeling me as well, hwoever she has just gotten out of a 6 year relationship and still wanted to get back with him, but she did like me, and when she reailzed that I wasn't going to wait aro und she hopped on the opprotunity.

In other words, I forced her hand.

Now, we aren't together Now, but not because of her EX...


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2. Showing interst in other men


At some point in time, the girl will either show interest in another man, or make it loud and clear that other men have itnerest in her.

This is a given guys, and if I see another post about this girl they are talking to has this other guy talking to her, or she has feelings for another guy, I am going to drop kick someone though this monitor.

1. Anything worth, is worth fighting for

2. As DJ as you are, you aren't the only cool/handsome/successful dude on earth.. I'm sorry to dissopoint you.

Any girl worth her salt is going to have her suitors. You have to learn to be thick skinned.

You also have to stop focusing on what she sees in the other guys, but what she sees in you, because ovbiously it's something.

I am pretty good looking, or so I have been told, but my gosh I am not Tyson Beckford (yet).. let me put it this way,I am good lookign enough to where a girl isn't going to date me becuase I'm not good looking.

 

[backbreaker]

My Ex... one of the things, as we grew to know each other, and learn the small things about each other, that she said she couldndn't stand about me, was I am arrogant and I think I know everything (Which isn't true.. I know i know everything). I love to argue (only about **** that I know I am right about however, i'm not a fool), I always have to take the lead when I do ****, rather it's cooking or driving, or dancing, doesn't matter.

She can't, or says she can't, STAND it. She says that I think I am better than everyone else (Which honestly for the most part, is true, but only because I work harder to be better than most people, while most people sit around and get fat and jack off all day).

But ask her what she likes about me... she will tell you that, although I am 22 and she's 26, she will tell you that she feels "safe" around me, like she doesn't have to worry about **** when I am around, she feels secure. She loves my work ethic and the fact that I don't think, I honestly know I can do anything

As much as she hated me being right, she coudlnt' do ****, and can't to this day even though we aren' dating, without my approval. Just the other day she called me and asked me does she think she should to back to school..and she is dating another guy now.


Now why did I say all that.. oh yeah.. One day, while we were talking, not dating, she asked me out of the bl ue to date her. I told her no, becuase I had just met her and I wasn't ready for a realationship with her yet.

So then, the next couple of weeks, she starts mentioning casually the other guys who call.. she starts leaving her phone out in plain view so I can check the caller ID, **** like that. And I don't, because I don't care.

One day, I saw her at the club, all hugged up on this guy (she knew i was going to be there). I didn't get mad. At all. How could I? I didnt' want to date her, but I can tell her who she can and can't see?

So the next day she calls me apologizing about what happend. I told her I could care less and I hoped she had fun.

That made her more madder than anything I co uld have done.

When she asked why I wasn't mad, I told her "because they aren't me, and if I wanted you you would be mine and you know it"

Of coruse, she went off, saying "I'm not sprung on you" and "I can have any man I want"

And I said 'Yeah, but you want me, if you didn't you wouldn't be on the phone otherwise trying to convince me to date you"

In other words, you have to realize it for what it is, and that's a ploy to envoke emotion.

The most blantent type of this i have ever seen.. better yet, I can show you better than i can tell you, look at this:

This is an email I sent my old oneitis that I eventaully started seeing about 5 months ago after I had gotten out of sugery and hadn't talked to her in a week.

where have you been

A simple, 4 word email. Doesn't get more basic than that.

This is what I get in response.


NO. I have been sick, busy and busy with Chase.

Now.. why in the HELL do you have to mention you are back with your Ex of 3 years, the guy who you wouldn't even let me say his name in conversations becuase you didn't want to think about him anymore, only to get me to provoke some type of emotion?

That sentence was more than sufficent enough before that last sentence.

I saw it, laughed, and I never contacted her again to this day.



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3. Sleeping Around

If you are smart, or fortunate enough to get past the first two, the third one comes like a Mike Tyson Right hook to the chin. I mean, she's YOUR girl, spreding her legs for another guy.. boo hoo

Some one, a guy that I can only hope to have his knowledge of women someday gave me some advice that made this the easiest test out of all, because her actions are so blatent it's actually funny.

First of all, if a girl sleeps around and you find out on the DL or from the grape vine.. than you might need to look for anothr women, because she didn't want you to know she was sexing other guys, but still wanted to be with you. Not a good sign.

but the girl that "let's it slip" or "let's her friends know who tell you" or "tells you because she feels bad" that she slept with another guy, or even better, the girl that calls you from a party that you aren't invited to, only to tell you she is spending the night and you know her Ex or another guy she likes or likes her is there.

Is only trying, in her damnest way, to get you to provoke emotion.

You always know this because you will never see this test come before another one, this is by far a last resort.

My dad overheard me talking to my friends one day about my Ex, who let it slip that she had sex with her EX 2 times since we had been talking, becuase she was lonely because I wouldn't date her, said:

"Son, all she is trying to do is get to you by the best way she knows how, and that's give herself to another guy.. if she didn't like you and didn't give a damna bout you,s he wouldn't have "let" you find out.

My dad then said, "look.. she knows, and you know now, that she has just threw her hardest pitch, and couldn't get you out... she's defenseless now"

If ****ing another guy won't get to you, what will.

I put some thought into what he was saying, and came up with this.

What women think they want and what they actually want are two different things. Women say they want an emotional guy that listens and cares for them, but what they really want is a man that is in control of himself and his emotions. Women, espically hot ones, don't like feeling like they have no control over their feelings.

My dad was 150% correct. 1. She never talked to her Ex, at least seriously, again after that. She literarly used him to get at me.

2. After that, she literarly broke down to start begging me on a daily basis to date her. She went from that, to crying because ovbiously something was wrong with her because I didn't like her (and I did, alot actually)

3. She tried extra hard to impress me. Cleanign MY house, cooking, watching **** I liked, trying to do things I liked to do... BTW, she had long hair now, and let's just say I was glad I got her number.


Another situtation, with a girl not my EX, which I have plenty but will only get into the best ones, is this.

Girl was married. Made it known she was married and was taken. I didnt' budge, played my game on my terms.

Okay... she made it known she wanted me by ****ing me, but at the same time would always say stuff about her husband like I am supposed to get jealous or some ****.

Then, and this takes the cake, spent the night over my house one night, left in the middle of the night to go **** another guy not her husband and had the nerve to come back at 6 in the morning and get in bed.

I asked her did she have fun, instead of getting mad or irrate because she "gave herself to another guy"

Later,s het old me what she liked about me, was that "I made it known I liked her, but at the same time I wasn't needy of her" She told me that drove and drives, as I ****ed her last week, crazy.


To sum up.. don't let these women get to you. IN all cases, execpt the first one with my ex wehre she stood me up, I had other options, and even then, I was on the verge of getting other options. I wasn't ****ed up if the girl at the time was leaving me or ****ing another guy.

Imagine it a big war.. a Woman talking to other guys is like a 45 Cal. A woman going on a date with another guy is like a mine, and a girl ****ing another guy is like a missle... but they are all nothing but weapons that are used in war, the most severe being used for emergencies only.

What happens in war, when you use your best weapon, and it doesn't or won't work?

Your pretty much at the mercy of the enemy, or this case, the guy that you are dating or talking too.

 

[shiningshadow]

I liked the war paragraph, with the mines and missles.

 

[Ice Cold]

I give you five star mofo

Girls invent crazy **** to tell guys about themselves.

One told me in sequence:
1) She's being harassed in school by guys and can't get rid of them
2) She was almost raped on a date by a third guy, while her date was too drunk
3) When she was 15, a guy got a crush on her and jumped from the 5th floor trying to end his life

 

[dietzcoi]

I must be missing something here

I do not think sleeping around is a sh1t test... I think it is way over the line!!

If she does that, next! WHy do you want to "win" a girl who has taken this type of action

I apologize if I have misunderstood this, but I think if your girl sleeps with another guy to hurt you, she should not be your girl any longer

Dietzcoi

 

[Egoist]

what the hell?

she sleeps around, she's kicked to the curb while i **** her best friends AND her sister.

 

[backbreaker]

Originally posted by Egoist
what the hell?

she sleeps around, she's kicked to the curb while i **** her best friends AND her sister.

lol, kids, kids, gather around and learn..


How is she sleeping around on me, and we aren't dating?

HELL, I WAS SLEELPING AROUND TOO. AND SHE KNEW ABOUT IT.


yeah, I'm going to **** 3-4 other girls constantly, but get mad when she has sex 1-2 times with her ex.



If you saw the fights we had because she knew I had another girl over my house.. while we weren't dating and she is getting mad. She showed up over my house one night drunk off her ass while I had company and she was so drunk I ahd to excuse my company.

The married chick was no better. To show it's all a mental game, 2 days after she came back from getting her swerve on, we were in the bed together, and I get a call from myold oneitis. So I go in a different room, and we start flirting with each other on the phone.

The married chick came out, throw a pack of ciggerattes at me and stormed out of the house, and was sitting on my pourch crying and smoking, mad becuase she couldn't "figure me out"


LAST ****ING NIGHT, I went to a strip club, where one of the girls I see work. I kicked it with her for a quick second, and her friend I know it's her friend because I see her out with her all thet ime, comes up to me, pulls me back to the VIP section and gives me a free lapdance. When I come back the girl I am talking to is mad, mugging me the rest of the time I was there. When I left she called me and called me a ***** for dancing with another girl, I told "you have to be pretty dumb for me dancing with another chick at a STRIP CLUB, regardless if I paid or not, it's a STRIP CLUB"

Now of course, no girl I am actually dating is going to **** another guy, regardless of the situtation, I wouldn't stand for it.

BUT THAT'S WHY I AM NOT DATING ANYONE.

My Ex is the only girl in the last 2 years, that I have gave a damn enough about to stop ****ing other women. And my old oneitis. The rest of these traps can suck my **** and can take it in the ass. **** thier feelings, because they damn dont' give 2 ****s about yours.

By the time we did date, she no more ammunication that most guys here have to face in a normal relationship.

And honestly, I really didn't give a damn if it was a **** test or not.

See, something that I do, that I think alot of guys here dont' do, is I look at a girl, we get to know each other, and I already know sooner or later how the relationship is going to end.

For istance, the married chick.. I knew she was buck wild. I knew she liked **** (and *****) and now that she was under the wings of her hubsband, she was going to "get caught up" so to speak.

Me knowing that before hand, allowed me to already know what i was getting into, and when it happened, I am laughing becasue it's so freakin predictable.

My ex, digs me.. to this day. She is just faced with the same problem alot of cute/fine women these days are, and that is that they haven't had to develop any personality and then know that by them pouting or giving you dog eyes, she gets any thing she wants.

I knew hell was going to break loose the first time I said no to her.. and it did. She did everything from call me a loser for not wanting to date her to literarly spying on my house, to ****ing her ex to get back at me.

So when it happened, not only was I ****ing other women, because I had no reason NOT to, I wasn't the least bit suprised.

I knew the second she told me she had a 6 year relatinoship that she just got of, I was going to have to put up with something with him in it, no matter what I do, even if it is just to get back at me.

Open your mind guys.. use your head. Stop worring about the action, as in her dating another guy or being seen with another guy, but on WHY she did what she did.

Plus, at the very end of the day.. I"m me. I am giving you the opprotunity to be with me, if you are stupid enough to pass it up, i'm not going to hold any grudges, but you are stupid, and you will be replaced if and when I feel like it.

Yet at the end of the day, I have everything I want from all of these women.

I am STILL ****ing the married girl, on MY TERMS..whcih is about 1 time every 2 months, just enough to get great sex and a good BJ without the baggage that comes along with it.

I don't like my ex.. she's too immature for me to take seriously, and even though I know she loves me and she honestly tries, she's not on my level and I care about her too much to drag her though what I was about to drag her do (cheating, etc), so I cut her loose. But if I called her right now and told her to come down here, even though she has a BF, she would be here tomorrow and woudln't think twice about it.

I am currently seeing a constant rotation of about 3 women, 4 if you co unt the married chick, but none I would consider anythnig close to serious. All of them are on MY terms, when I want to see them and who gives a **** if they are ****ing someone else, that's not my business. It's not like I am sitting here at home masterbating crying why you are out getting throat ****ed.

 

[animal crackers]

Man I really like the post, esp the first part about flaking, and your general message of showing interest without neediness.


I have been working more and more on showing genuine interest in girls and people in general, and it has improved my relationships and pick up skills.



Very experienced non kj post man. Nice.



animal crackers

 

[Marlimus]

"whatever babe... look, I don't know you that well, but you seem like a nice and intelligent person, so I am going to be real with you for a second.. from what i see of you, I am feeling you.. your cute, you are funny, you have alot of engery and you seem to be nice. However, that doesn't mean I am going to wait around for you when you feel like you want to stop flaking out on me to get a date. So I am going to ask you out one more time, and if you go out with me, cool, and if you don't, that's cool as well, however you won't hear from me again"

Sounds like you stumpled across a pattern. Well done.