Thoughts on BPD and society

[Infern0]

The thing with BPD is that the girls ho have it often end up with either Cluster B males, or AFC's/Beta/Codependent guys

So the thing is a lot of what you see on sites like BPDfamily etc is codependent guys who got "devalued" but then they went full blown AFC and the girl obviously bounced. They then blame the BPD for what is actually pretty normal female reactions to a guy losing his frame completley and begging and pleading. Devaluation is usually reversable if you don't lose your **** like most guys do when it happens, you just mirror their IL level and usually they get over it pretty fast.

The BPD plate I have, she's diagnosed BPD and she behaves WAY better now I know the fundamentals and don't act AFC anymore, sure she still has her moments but she ain't half as bad as before, I couldn't care less about her depression and night terrors etc, all I care about is her behaviour towards me, and it's fine.

So the problem is, BPD and AFC come together and it's basically a girl with massive issues colliding with a guy who's got issues of his own and has no clue how to handle women anyway, so what you get is a trainwreck of epic proportions, add to that most BPD are hot and it's the only hot women AFC's can get and the result is an AFC who goes full retard, and a BPD chick who can't control her own emotions so you have two people going retard on each other. it's messy as hell.

Basically there's usually problems on both sides, if you want to dabble in BPD, there are rewards, great sex, usually super fun and spontanious and entertaining personality, no boundries, will do anything you ask, superb loyalty if you can keep them idealizing you, but on the other side if your frame slips or theres any AFC left in you, you're going to get hurt. So you have to be very emotionally strong and centered to consider it.

I don't listen to the people who say they are evil, or like a drug etc etc etc, having spent a lot of time around one, there is a real person there, just a very troubled one, At this stage I still think they are managable, I know many will disagree though.

BTW i'm talking about straight BPD, not BPD/NPD or BPD/ASPD hybrids, who are way worse and i wouldn't go near.

 

[Pandora]

Most women are crazy.
Some women are hot
Hot and sane women are reserved for the very best looking and well off men.
For the rest of us, there's a choice. hot and crazy, or plain and sane.
telling all guys to go for hot ones who are sane will result in many single men

This is exactly what i am starting to suspect. I 100% agree bro. Once in a while an average guy might luck into a hot sane girl but thats usually a girl that was very sheltered.

 

[speed dawg]

Most women are crazy.
Some women are hot
Hot and sane women are reserved for the very best looking and well off men.
For the rest of us, there's a choice. hot and crazy, or plain and sane.
telling all guys to go for hot ones who are sane will result in many single men

Most women aren't crazy, they are just.....women. Very predictable for the red pill man.

'Crazy' starts happening when you start talking about abuse, childhood issues, etc. And nowadays that's about 50% of the population, so maybe you are right.

 

[Pandora]

'Crazy' starts happening when you start talking about abuse, childhood issues, etc. And nowadays that's about 50% of the population, so maybe you are right.

yup yup. Its a whole new world we gotta deal with. We are dating the generation of the broken homes/ divorce. The dating market reflect this.

 

[YawataNoKami]

What the fvck is BPD?A bullsh1t label that is slapped on to undeserving individuals when loved ones and therapists don't know how to deal with them. Personally, I refer to this as borderline bull**** disorder because it is just how it sounds, complete bull****.


Ebola, aids, black plague those are serious illnesses. Now, obesity, depression, bpd and all that are just fags missing a nice old fashioned fvck.Amongst all forms of depressions in existence the only one i give credit is to Manic-depression. Not even bi-polar sh1t I believe. That definition is a post-modern laboratories induced illness.

All types known: Tryciclics, SSRis, SSNRis and MAOis works basically the same way and with the same results. Antidepressants creates an irreal perspective on life through perception. The individual is submitted into a fairytale world that preserves him to accept pain as a method to surpass traumas and tolerate the downs on life. Its a typical drug for this time and age, individualistic, Schizoid kind of drug.

A drug that promotes "happiness" in a world full of sh1t. Its a drug for submission into a system that necessarily ask you to be on your knees and ready to eat **** without any form of complaint and discomfort. Produce or die!

 

[Swampcamel]

I've dated a good handful of BPD chicks, and a couple pretty seriously. The truth is, it's hard not to be attracted to these types, but then they drive you f**king crazy and you have to get out or get sucked into neurotic relationship patterns yourself.

I used to try to justify it. I'd say, "Everyone's f**ked up. I'm f**ked up, and anyone who tells you they don't have some sort of triggers or emotional sh*t is lying. The challenge is learning to accept each other." But, then, you can't save anyone, you can't fix anyone, and the difference between all the f**ked up guys on this forum looking for help and the BPD chicks they've dated is that guys will actually admit that they have issues and seek support and advice and help and try to change the direction of their lives while BPD chicks feel totally justified in their maniac abusive behavior and will never seek to adjust themselves. They might admit to you that they were raped or molested or have abandonment issues, but they feel safe in their victimization and don't truly seek to overcome it. If you love them enough, you'll put up with their sh*t and let them try to mold your life and being, seems to be the philosophy. If you won't, it's cause you're a cold, calculating a**hole who deserves all the worst of their rage.

What is BPD? It is just a label. I think all clinical psychological labels are BS, but we need language to describe personality types so that we can more easily identify what could turn into a totally toxic life. Don't worry about, "WELL ALL BUT THIS SYMPTOM IS MISSING SO SHE ISNT BPD F**K YOUR CAUTION WE WILL MAKE IT WORK" and just identify whether or not this girl seems too unstable for a mature, lasting relationship.

The truth is, though, BPD chicks f**k like rockstars and are more empathic (at times) than most regular chicks, so it's real easy to get sucked in. Just don't think it's gonna be easy getting out once you're in.