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spanky

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Yes, I will answer this, Blitz. Actually, I attempted to do that in my previous post but I guess I failed to make it clear.

First, I want you to consider the spontaneity and hoopla in the context of the woman already giving you good "signals' or "vibes." In this context, she is already attracted to you for whatever reason. If she is giving you the signal or feel that the feeling is right to kiss her, I say "don't ask for the kiss. "Just go for it." The signals she provides or the good vibes that you are receiving from the chic will be enough.

Asking tarnishes the romance of that first kiss more times than not. She knows it's coming and it not as natural as just reaching over and allowing it to happen. There is a lot to gain by taking control of the situation and taking the initiative. Your initial sexual impression is key for establishing long term sexual appeal.


Now, in no way I am implying that this is the case 100% of the time but I believe a man must treat it as if so.

Women just don't want to feel safe around us in that way. They don't want
us to be nice in that way. They are more attracted to the man who goes after what he wants and knows how to handle a "no." How many times have you heard the phrase "a woman likes a man who takes charge?" That phrase isn't a myth. Women digs a man who goes for what he wants.

What would I do in the situation with the fat chic? Well, first, I have never been attracted to fat chics but I would probably have let her kiss me for a second to save face then back off and tell her that I didn't feel for her in that way.

If I am attracted to her and she asks me for a kiss, then that would have changed nothing. I would probably still be attracted to her after she asked. I am very much like most men, into physical attraction and every thing else is a bonus. I don't need a woman to take charge, make me feel protected, radiate power and wealth, and all of that other stuff chics are attracted to in men. I will satisfy those needs within myself. Unfortunately, this does not work the same way with women.


By asking, you tarnish the mood, you seem unsure of yourself (are you afraid of her rejecting you?), you seem less sexually aggressive and spontaneous ( lacking traits most women admire in men). and you become more "sexually safe/ less sexually exciting" in her presence.

Sexually safe=short cut to friend zone.

Don't work against the spark.

Now, of course there are exceptions to this. I am sure that most guys know women whom this stuff simply do not apply to. Those women are the exception rather than the rule. Marry them.


Anyway, Blitz, it would be fine with me if it didn't make a difference but experience has shown me otherwise. If you are getting away with this consistently and can maintain a woman's sexual interest afterwards with similar "consideration" in other romantic settings, then by all means, continue it. But I must operate through the other route and encourage others to do also.

Blame it on the women, man.
 

Tantric

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"It's not everyday I tell people the things I'm telling you. I like you and I don't know why."

Does anyone else sense LJBF?

YIKES! That is a classic line that girl say when they consider you a "freind"...or a "girlfriend".

Yeah, sure, she's comfortable around you that's obvious...what is ALSO obvious is that you SHOULD HAVE KISSED HER!!!!! SHE BROUGHT IT UP...but rather than acting on it, you talked about it!!!!

You also gave her YOUR number...Unless you have hers already, VERY BAD!!! Did you not read the DJ bible? ;)

Go for it...but stop wasting time...the longer you DON'T act on the hints she's giving you, the more chance she is going to lose her attraction for you and put you in the LJBF zone.
 

Pecker

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Tantric I disagree with you here. I do have her number, I got it before she got mine.

I don't think I sense LJBF here either. I might be wrong, who knows. But in this scenario I must be willing to take that risk. I'm walking the fine line of gaining trust without becoming an asexual entity to her.

But then again first impressions are lasting, and I showed her my sexuality early on.

I ALSO think trying to kiss her then would have been a HORRIBLE mistake. Have you no tact? It's obvious I can't rush this too much. I will need to take my time and play it cool. Don't worry, she's not my only prospect.

Also, I will try again. Believe me. She'll either eventually say yes or insist that we not be friends anymore.
 

Ice Cold

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Originally posted by Tantric
"It's not everyday I tell people the things I'm telling you. I like you and I don't know why."

Does anyone else sense LJBF?

YIKES! That is a classic line that girl say when they consider you a "freind"...or a "girlfriend".
Hmm. And how would you know it's classic? I have been LJBFed in many ways: "you're so nice" "LJBF" "I am not ready for relationship" etc.

BUT: 2 girls told me that:

1) "I don't even know how I can tell these things to you already"
2) "You are so understanding, I can tell you everything"

Guess what? I layed them both.

When a girl tells you something like this, I assume deep rapport and trust on her part.

But's that's only my model
 
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You are doin fine Pecker. Dont let these guys discourage you. I get the sense that you are being REAL with her and that is what she finds attractive.

I personally loved your response to her "is it because I´m pretty" shyt test! Excellent job!

Just keep being your charming self when you are with her and vanish for a while so she wonders about you. It also wouldn´t hurt if she saw you with some hotties. Female jealousy is a most powerful DJ tool!

Next time you sense the moment is right, go for the kiss by doin David D´s kiss test. Make eye contact and touch her hair, comment on its softness and close in slowly. If she stays put without turning her head or pulling away, you are in!

Good luck man..we are rootin for ya!
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

Satan Psycho

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Make your move the next time you're with her. She's had enough time to decide. If she has 'trust' issues then she needs to get over them or be NEXT!ed.

Enjoy!
 
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