This movie will change the way you look at life forever!

[wayword]

The story of jesus has a striking resemblance to a particular Babylonian god like creature, and (I don't remember his name off the top of my head) mythical figure from the ancient Indian/west culture (might be mentioned above)

If you actually watched the vid, you'll find out that it was "Horus" or the Sun. In fact, it's all an astrological metaphor.

Jesus = Sun (setting = dying, rising = resurrection)
3 wise men = 3 stars in Orion's belt
Star of Bethlehem = Jupiter

The reason why similar versions of this same story appear so often cross-culturally is thus supposedly because it actually references an alignment of all these bodies on Dec 25. And so was a universally-observable event.

And Jesus also ushered in the Age of Pisces. Hence he made fish for people and is symbolized by a fish.

And following him is the Age of Aquarius. Hence the term "New Agers" who readily embrace this arrival (as each age lasts approximately 2000 years).

 

[backbreaker]

i knew that.. and that's not even it. it's another one. when I get a little time here latter on I will look it up

 

[backbreaker]

both are right, both are wrong. I believe america had something to do with 9-11 for the simple reason is that Al Queda wouldn't be Al Queda if it weren't for america helping them 15 or so years ago and providing them with the weapons they have today

but to say that we killed our own people to that regard? That's not only wrong, that's TREASON and would cause for everyone in the government to be overthrown and have the worst possible death possile

 

[wayword]

Oh, please. You don't actually buy into this crap that Internet trolls are putting out there, are you? It's been proven many times over that 9/11 was NOT an inside job. Building 7, controlled demolitions, the lone spire...it's all bunk. Here's a link to the most recent study, done by Purdue University, proving 9/11 was not an inside job: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread287115/pg.

That computer simulation doesn't prove anything that wasn't already assumed.

Yes, some of the steel beams could have been weakend by the fire at half its M.P.. That's old news. However, the replies in that thread alone will tell you that that is not enough to cause a total dem0-style sudden collapse. Nor form POOLS of molten iron at the bottoms of WTC 1, 2 AND 7! The huge POOLS of molten steel at the base of all 3 buildings are the smoking guns here! Because they prove that the full M.P. of steel was reached in all 3 buildings...despite there only being small fires in each!

In other words, they MUST have been dem0'd with hot expl0sives to reach those high temps! The conventional fires alone couldn't have done it!

I studied this hard for a whole month to reach my preliminary conclusions. There was just waayy too much circumstantial evidence and convenient "coincidences" - and that was just barely even scratching the surface...

 

[wayword]

The fireproofing insulation was stripped away, causing the beams to melt more readily. But hey, if you want to side with people like Rosie O'Donnell, Charlie Sheen, and Michael Moore when it comes to science...be my guest.

Listen you close-minded moron, do you know the DIFFERENCE in temperature required to merely WEAKEN steel vs actually MELT it?

~1510ºC (2750ºF) - melting point of typical structural steel
~825ºC (1517ºF) - maximum temperature of hydrocarbon fires burning in the atmosphere without pressurization or pre-heating (premixed fuel and air - blue flame)
Diffuse flames burn far cooler.
Oxygen-starved diffuse flames are cooler yet.

The fires in the towers were diffuse -- well below 800ºC.

Steel will weaken at about half its M.P..

Let's say the 9II fires reached about 1500ºF. Fine. The steel weakened and bent a bit.

But to actually MELT it all...it would still have to get 1250ºF HOTTER! Keep in mind that most blowtorches run around 2000ºF-2300ºF. So, you're talking about a huge furnace hotter than blowtorches melting all the core columns from top to bottom? Fairly instantly? Uh...how so? You tell me?

 

[Teflon_Mcgee]

Listen you close-minded moron, do you know the DIFFERENCE in temperature required to merely WEAKEN steel vs actually MELT it?
Steel will weaken at about half its M.P..

Let's say the 9II fires reached about 1500ºF. Fine. The steel weakened and bent a bit.

But to actually MELT it all...it would still have to get 1250ºF HOTTER! Keep in mind that most blowtorches run around 2000ºF-2300ºF. So, you're talking about a huge furnace hotter than blowtorches melting all the core columns from top to bottom? Fairly instantly? Uh...how so? You tell me?

I love how the whole world is suddenly full of engineers.
Go study some thermodynamics, strength of materials, chemistry, and physics and get back to me.

Hint: there is more to fusion than temperature alone.

 

[Teflon_Mcgee]

double post

 

[backbreaker]

does it really matter?

 

[bigjohnson]

That's not only wrong, that's TREASON ....

Actually no, but other than that I pretty much agree with what you've said on this thread. Hell freezes tomorrow.

 

[backbreaker]

no, if he US plotted to kill 3,000 of it's on citizens.. if that's not treason what is?

 

[bigjohnson]

no, if he US plotted to kill 3,000 of it's on citizens.. if that's not treason what is?

Treason is defined in the U.S. Constitution. Among other things it can only be committed in time of war, war being declared by the congress, not some police or UN action.

Criminal, sure. Treason, no.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

This movie will change the way you look at life forever!

FVCK! I thought the movie was "Live Free or Die Hard!" or at least "Transformers.":cuss:

 

[backbreaker]

techically.. if one can prove we went to war because of 9/11 then is it treason?

 

[azanon]

The hoax is that the satanic bastards who did 911 are telling you that there is no GOD!!! Wake up - The Matrix has you!!!

BB, our taxes are going to INDIviduals who control the federal reserve - NOT countries!! These individuals control "countries" - meaning the leaders of the countries!!!! They are the ones telling you there is no God - don't be deceived!!!!!

Well, hells bells. Did the rooster finally crow on ole Peter...... err, i mean LMS?

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Check this out; ever wondered what the world would look like without religion? http://www.danheller.com/images/UnitedStates/NewYork/Wtc/img6.html#img10

 

[bigjohnson]

techically.. if one can prove we went to war because of 9/11 then is it treason?

Not a lawyer, but my understanding is that the act must occur in time of war.

 

[NINJA PIMP]

Sorry, did you just say that most 9-11 survivors are conspiracy theorists? Where are your sources? I'd very much like to take a look at where you picked up this statistic from.

The families of the 911 victims were among the first to request the release of classified documents that Bush and pals have tightly under wraps. The only documents they managed to win over were the transcripts of firemen on that day, all of which confirm the explosions they talk about in the video.

Furthermore, the NYC courts made the cover-up even more apparent when they passed a law to ban certain testimonies (especially the accounts of bombs) on the news.

http://www.courts.state.ny.us/reporter/3dseries/2004/2004_00091.htm

(1) denied the motion of nine family members of persons who died on 9/11 for leave to intervene as petitioners (Family Members), and
(2) directed disclosure of the oral histories albeit redacted to delete the employees' personal expressions, opinions and recommendations.

…Not falling within the intra-agency exception are the personal expressions of feelings contained in the oral histories, and we accordingly modify to direct disclosure of such expressions.

In other words, if a firefighter who was interviewed said, "I heard what sounded like explosions and I think it was bombs that took down those towers, it was all so horrible", the press will merely get the portion that says: "it was all so horrible".

Here is a transcript of an interview you would never see on TV news

Fireman1: Floor by floor it started popping out...
Fireman2: It was almost like they had detonators…
Fireman1: Yeah, detonators…
Fireman2: …planted to take down the building. boom-boom-boom-boom-boom….
Fireman1: All the way down. I was watching it and running..

Thousands of people have reported the same thing. Your problem is that you, like most right-wingers can't see past your own blind patriotism. You think popular mechanics aint in the same pocket as Fox news? Pffft! Your delusional and IMHO, a big part of the reason Americans have lost many of their civil rights.

You think its cool to search houses without warrants and imprison people without a trial or lawyer? That's not democracy or American...that's FASCISM. But hey, whatever floats your boat.

 

[Desdinova]

We REALLY don't need more political threads

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