This is what Oprah Winfrey has to say about men

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This is what Oprah Winfrey has to say about men:

If a man wants you, nothing can keep him away.
If he doesn't want you, nothing can make him stay.
Stop making excuses for a man and his behaviour.
Allow your intuition (or spirit) to save you from heartache.

Stop trying to change yourself for a relationship that's not meant to be.
Slower is better. Never live your life for a man before you find what makes you truly happy.

If a relationship ends because the man was not treating you as you deserve then heck no, you can't 'be friends'.
A friend wouldn't mistreat a friend.
Don't settle.

If you feel like he is stringing you along, then he probably is. Don't stay because you think 'it will get better.'
You'll be mad at yourself a year later for staying when things are not better.
The only person you can control in a relationship is you.

Avoid men who've got a bunch of children by a bunch of different women. He didn't marry them when he got them pregnant, why would he treat you any differently?

Always have your own set of friends separate from his.
Maintain boundaries in how a guy treats you. If something bothers you, speak up.

Never let a man know everything.* He will use it against you later.

You cannot change a man's behaviour. Change comes from within.

Don't EVER make him feel he is more important than you are... even if he has more education or in a better job.
Do not make him into a quasi-god.
He is a man, nothing more nothing less.
Never let a man define who you are.
Never borrow someone else's man.
If he cheated with you, he'll cheat on you.
A man will only treat you the way you ALLOW him to treat you.

All men are NOT dogs.

You should not be the one doing all the bending...compromise is a two way street.

You need time to heal between relationships...there is nothing cute about baggage... deal with your issues before pursuing a new relationship.

You should never look for someone to COMPLETE you...a relationship consists of two WHOLE individuals...look for someone complimentary...not supplementary.

Dating is fun...even if he doesn't turn out to be Mr. Right.

Make him miss you sometimes...when a man always know where you are, and you're always readily available to him - he takes it for granted.

Never move into his mother's house. Never co-sign for a man.

Don't fully commit to a man who doesn't give you everything that you need. Keep him in your radar but get to know others.

Share this with other women and men (just so they know)... You'll make someone smile, another rethink her choices, and another woman prepare.

They say it takes a minute to find a special person, an hour to appreciate them, a day to love them and an entire lifetime to forget them.

You should know that you're the best thing that could ever happen to anyone and if a man mistreats you, HE WILL MISS OUT ON A GOOD THING. If he was attracted to you in the 1st place, just know that he's not the only one.
They're all watching you, so you have a lot of choices. Make the right one.

Ladies take care of your own hearts.
Sound familiar? :p
 

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Wow. That's actually very reasonable.
I expected something much more....."feminist."
 

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Kudos to Oprah. Thank god she's not spewing anti-dude crap that'll poison gagillions of women for dating.
 

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This is what Oprah Winfrey has to say about men
You mean that's something you found posted at her website potentially authored by any number of people?

I'm almost ashamed to admit I've watched enough of her shows during my lifetime to be absolutely confident that she didn't author that and isn't capable of authoring that. Even if she claimed that she did, her agent reasoned that having a wiser man/woman with her "name" will sell the most books.
 

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azanon said:
You mean that's something you found posted at her website potentially authored by any number of people?

I'm almost ashamed to admit I've watched enough of her shows during my lifetime to be absolutely confident that she didn't author that and isn't capable of authoring that. Even if she claimed that she did, her agent reasoned that having a wiser man/woman with her "name" will sell the most books.
I didn't post this with Oprah as the main topic of discussion. The day we start discussion Oprah's ethics and work methods is the day I stab my right testie with a straw.
This is just a look into a slice of female self-help that is actually quite sensible.
 

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I don't think she has the experience in the dating world to say all that crap.

Fvck this. DO NOT FEED ANY FORM OF CRAP IN YOUR HEAD.
 

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This is what Oprah Winfrey has to say about men:

If a man wants you, nothing can keep him away.
If he doesn't want you, nothing can make him stay.
Stop making excuses for a man and his behaviour.
Allow your intuition (or spirit) to save you from heartache.
Duh Oprah or your ghostwriter(s), but the problem is when a man sincerely wants a woman, what does she almost invariably do? She feels validated, knows she can have him and then basically doesn't want him. This right here in a nutshell explains virtually all of most women's relationship problems (and men's too because of women). Women are not only fvcking it up for themselves but for guys as well.
 

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daygameguy said:
I don't think she has the experience in the dating world to say all that crap.

Fvck this. DO NOT FEED ANY FORM OF CRAP IN YOUR HEAD.
Right, because no one except the top PUA gurus knows anything about life, relationships, or dealing with other people in general. :whistle:
 

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This has been posted before. The other thread pointed out that all you had to do was change every sex characteristic word the meaning is left intact. The whole statement can be gender neutral and still be good advice.
 

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The Proper Version

Here you go - I corrected it.:rock:

About women:

If a woman wants you, nothing can keep her away.
If she doesn't want you, nothing can make her stay.
Stop making excuses for a woman and her behaviour.
Allow your intuition (or spirit) to save you from heartache.

Stop trying to change yourself for a relationship that's not meant to be.
Slower is better. Never live your life for a woman before you find what makes you truly happy.

If a relationship ends because the woman was not treating you as you deserve then heck no, you can't 'be friends'.
A friend wouldn't mistreat a friend.
Don't settle.

If you feel like she is stringing you along, then she probably is. Don't stay because you think 'it will get better.'
You'll be mad at yourself a year later for staying when things are not better.
The only person you can control in a relationship is you.

Avoid women who've got a bunch of children by a bunch of different men. She didn't marry them when she got pregnant, why would she treat you any differently?

Be very careful dealing with women who have predominantly male friends. ESPECIALLY if these guys get to spend time with her when you aren't around. They are usually Attention *****s who get their needs (emotional, financial, sexual, etc) met by several men – no matter what their husband or boyfriend thinks about it.

Always have your own set of friends separate from her.
Maintain boundaries in how a girl treats you. If something bothers you, speak up.

Never let a woman know everything.* She will use it against you later.

You cannot change a woman's behaviour. Change comes from within.

Don't EVER make her feel he is more important than you are... even if she has more education or in a better job.
Do not make her into a quasi-god.
She is a woman, nothing more nothing less.
Never let a woman define who you are.
Never borrow someone else's woman for anything long term.
If she cheated with you, she'll cheat on you.
A woman will only treat you the way you ALLOW her to treat you.

All women are NOT dogs, but most can be *****es.

You should not be the one doing all the bending...compromise is a two way street.

You need time to heal between relationships...there is nothing cute about baggage... deal with your issues before pursuing a new relationship.

You should never look for someone to COMPLETE you...a relationship consists of two WHOLE individuals...look for someone complimentary...not supplementary.

Dating is fun...even if she doesn't turn out to be The One.

Make her miss you sometimes...when a woman always know where you are, and you're always readily available to her - she takes it for granted.

Never co-sign for a woman.

Don't fully commit to a woman who doesn't give you everything that you need. Keep her in your radar but get to know others.

They say it takes a minute to find a special person, an hour to appreciate them, a day to love them and an entire lifetime to forget them.

You should know that you're the best thing that could ever happen to anyone and if a woman mistreats you, SHE WILL MISS OUT ON A GOOD THING. If she was attracted to you in the 1st place, just know that she's not the only one.
They're all watching you, so you have a lot of choices. Make the right one.
 

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dingdongbell said:
Here you go - I corrected it.:rock:

About women:

If a woman wants you, nothing can keep her away.
If she doesn't want you, nothing can make her stay.
Stop making excuses for a woman and her behaviour.
Allow your intuition (or spirit) to save you from heartache.

Stop trying to change yourself for a relationship that's not meant to be.
Slower is better. Never live your life for a woman before you find what makes you truly happy.

If a relationship ends because the woman was not treating you as you deserve then heck no, you can't 'be friends'.
A friend wouldn't mistreat a friend.
Don't settle.

If you feel like she is stringing you along, then she probably is. Don't stay because you think 'it will get better.'
You'll be mad at yourself a year later for staying when things are not better.
The only person you can control in a relationship is you.

Avoid women who've got a bunch of children by a bunch of different men. She didn't marry them when she got pregnant, why would she treat you any differently?

Be very careful dealing with women who have predominantly male friends. ESPECIALLY if these guys get to spend time with her when you aren't around. They are usually Attention *****s who get their needs (emotional, financial, sexual, etc) met by several men – no matter what their husband or boyfriend thinks about it.

Always have your own set of friends separate from her.
Maintain boundaries in how a girl treats you. If something bothers you, speak up.

Never let a woman know everything.* She will use it against you later.

You cannot change a woman's behaviour. Change comes from within.

Don't EVER make her feel he is more important than you are... even if she has more education or in a better job.
Do not make her into a quasi-god.
She is a woman, nothing more nothing less.
Never let a woman define who you are.
Never borrow someone else's woman for anything long term.
If she cheated with you, she'll cheat on you.
A woman will only treat you the way you ALLOW her to treat you.

All women are NOT dogs, but most can be *****es.

You should not be the one doing all the bending...compromise is a two way street.

You need time to heal between relationships...there is nothing cute about baggage... deal with your issues before pursuing a new relationship.

You should never look for someone to COMPLETE you...a relationship consists of two WHOLE individuals...look for someone complimentary...not supplementary.

Dating is fun...even if she doesn't turn out to be The One.

Make her miss you sometimes...when a woman always know where you are, and you're always readily available to her - she takes it for granted.

Never co-sign for a woman.

Don't fully commit to a woman who doesn't give you everything that you need. Keep her in your radar but get to know others.

They say it takes a minute to find a special person, an hour to appreciate them, a day to love them and an entire lifetime to forget them.

You should know that you're the best thing that could ever happen to anyone and if a woman mistreats you, SHE WILL MISS OUT ON A GOOD THING. If she was attracted to you in the 1st place, just know that she's not the only one.
They're all watching you, so you have a lot of choices. Make the right one.
Makes a lot more sense this way. Some of it doesn't translate well, but for the most part the message is solid.

The point is, Men are responsible enough to handle this message, taking it at face value for what it's worth. Women will only manipulate this kind of message and apply it to their own lives using it to validate anything from skipping out on a date with a guy to cheating on their husband. The message of independence that this sends is natural to men, and women only act irrationally and irresponsibly when someone tells them it applies to them too.
 
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