This is tomrrow: catholic bible study girl

[TheDon1]

Been sitting with her in class. Shes mousey and keeps to her self. Not really low self esteem, but shy. Participates in class.

I'd spoken with her before but about a week ago I went for it. I was confident the usual, made her comfortable, got all her info. She made a compromise to work on something together.

I surprised her by knowing her EXACT interests, she then opened up immediately.

Two days later: She said she would not be going to class next time, so I txtd "If you do tht how will I see you." her response was "Next class, dont act like its forever" playfully.

I then sent her a little poem wondering if we both agreed it is "forever."

She did not respond and I see her tommorow. The factors against me are her religion and her peer group when I am not around (her friends don't have class with us). I know she is interested but my presence/confidence might scare her a little.

I have two alternate plans, but would like to hear suggestions.

 

[(JJ)]

The factors against me are her religion and her peer group when I am not around

the factors against you are more than that my friend. you shot down my advice in the other thread, so im pretty sure you're not gonna want it here either but i'll try anyway.

I surprised her by knowing her EXACT interests

before talking to her? i BET she's surprised. or fearing for her life from this stalkerish behavior.

Two days later: She said she would not be going to class next time, so I txtd "If you do tht how will I see you." her response was "Next class, dont act like its forever" playfully.

translation... i am desperate for nothing more than seeing you in class.
her response... grow a pair. its one day

i dont think it was that playful.

I then sent her a little poem wondering if we both felt like it is "forever."

She did not respond.

texting a poem proclaiming how much you wish you could see her.

not the best way to build attraction, as was demonstrated with her nonresponsiveness.

as is preached here, you must not show this much more interest than your target. you should do a little browsing on this site and get the basic principles down before you continue on with your attempts.

 

[TheDon1]

Believe me Im aware there is a lot more against me.

I was asking what your approach would be, of course I'm sealing the deal or sending her to a convent tommorow, my question is how far to push her? "Lets Fu<K" or more soft, "Lets date"? How far should I take it tmrow?

For what its worth, I know someone who advices me on this and his thoughts were tell her to fu<k. There is a 90% chance she will land tmrow, and if she doesnt at least she know what I want. Might come around later. (Happened to him.) Thoughts?

 

[(JJ)]

you are a man. you go for what you want. so if the only question of this thread is "should i try to fvck or should i just ease into it" then the answer is to go for as much escalation as you can, or as much as you want. whichever comes first.

as far as i'm concerned and as my experience tells me, a good relationship follows good sexual chemistry. the other way around can be done, but its much easier to demonstrate sexual compatibility before anything else.


having said that, there's little else i can tell you for this particular girl other than don't act so desperate or needy, and keep your frame strong. that's all you need to know, generally speaking, but like i said earlier, you may need to look around on this website a little more to get a bit more of an idea for what you're doing.

being catholic myself (at least, since i grew up catholic, it's the closest thing there is to my type of beliefs) i can tell you its a crapshoot what kind of girl you'll find within that community. some of them are the most sexually starved chicks waiting for someone to let them out of their cage, some of em are brainwashed into no sex before marriage. better to find out early and not waste time with a girl who doesnt want the same things as you do, though.

 

[Ddon1]

shes surrounded by bible-study buddies. goofy guys, brainwashed girls, and shes a bit more edgy than them. after all, they are the peer group I am against, and god, and jesus and...

anyways I will approach her more slow than normal. her curiosity and interest in me filled to the brim.

"as much escalation as" possible is the best way to put it.

 

[Ddon1]

Her:“My parents took my phone bcz I tried sneaking out of the house. Didn’t get ur msg.”

I quote for her:
“Tues, don’t act like its forever.”
“If you think of me as I of you, we agree it is.”

Her answer:“What do you think of me?”

Me: “All the time. Were both single. I want you.”

Her: “Well not exactly. Its complicated. I tried sneeking out to see someone. “

Me: “They aren’t invited.” (they bring up another guy ignore it.)

Over. She did not reply, but went into her defense room in her mind. She was expecting me to walk away but I stood my ground. I will ignore her to see if she comes to me, she is interested, did not say no, because I called her out in person and Im unlike her peer group.

I know what my mentor would say, but what do you all think?

Should I bring up her commitment to work on something not school related with me? She might want an out and that would be it. I am "Alpha-male" in her mind, and if I bring her commitment to work with me, she might get hooked.

(since I have looked around on the site don't advise me to not look desperate, that goes without saying. In her mind, she is in the spotlight.)

 

[Igetit!]

anyways I will approach her more slow than normal. her curiosity and interest in me filled to the brim.

This "got" you here. You approaching her "slow" screwed you over.

While you were tiptoeing around trying to ease up on her,some other guy came in.told her to SHUT UP,wear something sexy for him,and created attraction in her. So much attraction that she was willing to sneak out of the house to go see him.


And if she was willing to risk getting into trouble to go see the guy,I doubt that they were just going to sit around "talking",doing nothing.


This is the second thread today I've seen were some guy gets deceived by a girl's "good girl" image.


On the outside she appears sweet and innocent and makes you think she's all goody two-shoes,but inside she desires sex and wants to be taken by a MAN just like all other women do.


You fell for the act. I bet even now you still think she's all lolli pops and rainbows.


Her telling you she tried to sneak out of the house to see another guy was a hint to you that she's into somebody else.



That's how women are. They'll give you a chance,but if you don't move on it,they'll just find someone who will.



Another mistake was you two talking about "feelings". She asked you how you felt about her,and you told her you liked her.


Not only should you have not said that to her,but the whole topic of "feelings" should never have come up in the first place.


Look at what's going on here....

You are talking about "feelings" with her,but this other guy has her sneaking out of the house to go see him.


Which situation would you rather be in?


I'm afraid it may be too late. She wants to see this other dude but at the same time she doesn't want to hurt YOU because she knows you like her.


That's the difference between you and this other guy.

You got all heavy and serious talking about your feelings,while this other guy just made her attracted to him.


With you she has to worry about hurting your feelings,while with the other guy,she's too busy feeling chemistry and attraction to be worried about his emotions.


If I keep blitzing a girl,like,"That's a nice short. I'd like it even better if it were see through though"/"Are you going to let me take you out? If you do,I promise I'll be good for the first 15 minutes of the date"/"You have a boyfriend? If not,then I WANT to see you"?etc.;



If I keep hitting her with sexual line after line,she has NO CHOICE but to see me as sexual. If I keep flirting with her like that,the thought of sex,and thus sexual attraction will AUTOMATICALLY be linked to me whenever she sees or thinks about me because that's all I bring up when I talk to her.


The topic of "feelings" will never come up. She'll be too busy feeling attraction towards me to get into some serious talk about our feelings.



You screwed up. You should have just made your interest known by simply asking her out instead of confessing your feelings.


Now she has this burden on her of trying not to hurt you. She shouldn't have to worry about that until well into the relationship,not in the beginning stages.


Sorry dude. It looks like you're the latest victim of the friendzone.

 

[Ddon1]

Wow, you wrote a lot. thanks for the feedback, will use some of it.

You are assuming a lot of s h i t. I would pick your post apart, but would take too long.

Since we are assuming things and she gave me her internet profile:

I know that "she is interested, did not say no, because I called her out in person and Im nothing like her peer group." She hangs out with bible study kids. Her not saying anything left it open. As I said "she's in the spot light" and I will sit it out. Forget what I said about our working on something outside of school together. Won't even mention it.

I bet you one of my balls that you got it flipped, hes the one she would feel bad for leaving because they are part of same group, thats why she is confused, Im the mysterious new guy she is attracted to and he is a childhood friend.

Also, fu<k the "friends-zone," when I see that coming, I make one final attack and run them off.

Any responses to the post above "Igetit!"?

 

[Igetit!]

Wow, you wrote a lot. thanks for the feedback, will use some of it.

That's cool. Take what you can use,then discard the rest.

You are assuming a lot of s h i t. I would pick your post apart, but would take too long.

Well feel free to straighten me out.

I'm not so proud and high-minded to where I can't take a little correction.

I know that "she is interested, did not say no, because I called her out in person and Im nothing like her peer group." She hangs out with bible study kids. Her not saying anything left it open. As I said "she's in the spot light" and I will sit it out. Forget what I said about our working on something outside of school together. Won't even mention it.

I bet you one of my balls that you got it flipped, hes the one she would feel bad for leaving because they are part of same group, thats why she is confused, Im the mysterious new guy she is attracted to and he is a childhood friend.

Well to make sure i don't assume the wrong things again,just answer a few simple questions....

1)How long have you known her?
2)How often do you two talk to one another,and what EXACTLY do you two talk about?
3)Have you EVER asked her out?

Forget about her being interested. Let's put her interest on the backburner for a second. Now that that's done....

have YOU asked her out or not? And if you did,what did she say?

Also, fu<k the "friends-zone," when I see that coming, I make one final attack and run them off.

This isn't a bad idea,however,usually about the time you first spot it,it's too late.

 

[Ddon1]

I got it down. (worked it out in my mind)

I'll get inside or not when I see her. That simple.

If not, she might bounce back later (happened before.)

Give u details later.