this is basically a rejection isn't it?

[blueline]

History: Had girl in class 2 yrs ago. Rarely if ever talked to her. More experienced non-virginal version of me encounters her last week waiting for the class across from mine, so I chat 'er up. First time I run into her we talk for like 5-10 min, and I let her go w/o getting the number. Second time, we chat about whatever for 10 minutes and I get the number. I get the number by telling her she has a cool accent, so she should give me her number.

me (last monday): Hey smarty pants, so when are we grabbing a coffee? I'm available on most days after 4. -blueline
her: Hahah. Heyy yeah that sounds like fun, does friday at 4 work for you?
me: sure. i'll see you at starbucks at 4 on friday. you're fun to talk to and kinda cute, so i figure why not have this girl help me procrastinate from studying for my exams for a minute.
her: haha. thanks for the compliment . while i don't support procrastination, i could also use a pleasant distraction on friday. see you then!
me (thursday): how's your week been going champ
her: Really stressful, lol. I was gonna tell you I have this huge term paper due on friday and am going to be working on it from thursday evening until it's due at 6 on friday. maybe we can meet up after thanksgiving break?
me: sure that works. gimme a heads up when ur available [yeah, i know big mistake, but really girls don't give a fuck when they're into you]
her: okay . i will let you know!!

me (today): hey gl w/ that term paper btw.
her: Haha thank you. i've only had 3 hrs of sleep last night, that paper is due tonight by 6. i cant wait to finish it and pass out lol.
me: lol u remind me of myself 2 yrs ago.
her: blah blahb blah blah blah
her: btw almsot done with paper, it's nap time for me, yay!
me: blah lbha blah blah. if u get up before 9, let's go get that coffee. i'm gonna be bored outta my skull since most of my friends are going home and im in [uni town] all week.
her: Dammmmn that sucks! im at home as well i live in [town an hour away]. and i commute, which is pure HELL. so idk about 9 lolz but i think ill be there one day this week to visit my girlfriend so ill let u know. how come u're stuck there this week.
me: blah blah blha blah

looks like masked rejection to me. when it's on, the girl's stop AT NOTHING. this kinda **** happens to me a lot.

 

[JLW]

I don't know if I would have texted her so much. The text conversation on Thursday was a little unnecessary, and the one on Friday was also a bit overkill.


EDIT:
To answer your question, I don't know if she's that interested. I feel like she would have rescheduled if she was interested. Maybe wait til after Thanksgiving and then try ONE more time. I bet a lot of the guys on here would say next her right now, but I personally would feel better if I gave it one more real shot so i'm absolutely sure. But it's up to you.

her IL is mediocre at best. You may not want to bother because it's kind of an uphill battle.

 

[Kal0051]

Doubt she's all that interested, but it's hard to tell from what your giving. All I know is that your contacting her way too much. If she hasn't rejected you now she will soon. Cut the contact down til she starts investing. Over and out.

 

[blueline]

yeah, i'm just sick of this kind of **** happening. it's happened with so many girls lately. i'll usually delete the number after this kinda thing, but usually, when they wanna reject you, they'll just say they're unavailable right from the get go and give you no real alternative times. at this point, i won't contact her again unless she hits me up this coming week.

 

[Nkognito]

I think the nick names need to go. The compliment while gentlemenly was overboard as well. I think you're working to hard for her and getting into the friendzone before even getting coffee.

Just by reading what you typed, it sounds like you to are related. I would back off and keep the texting to a minimal. Also don't compliment her until you two are on a date. She will sniff that out early on and more than likely gets that from other guys. So you need to avoid the stereotypical label. Also you're pretty wordy in your texts which makes you come off as a "bff" to me. I would keep it short and dont be so over eager.

 

[blueline]

I throw out that compliment because I want them to know my intentions right out there. I mean, it's pretty obvious, I would say, but it's always a just in case, yknow.

 

[Nkognito]

Oh yea I know but it just seems too early to me to use that. Kind of gives off the feeling that she won you over off of looks alone.

 

[Kal0051]

I throw out that compliment because I want them to know my intentions right out there. I mean, it's pretty obvious, I would say, but it's always a just in case, yknow.

You know what's even more obvious? Getting physical the moment you meet her. Then when you go for the number there's no confusion about your intentions. Over and out.

 

[blueline]

Ummm, it was in the middle of the day in between classes. not exactly the greatest time to escalate. i don't want to get blown out in front of friends.

i guess i wont throw out compliments anymore, lol. it's funny, though, at the same time i think it takes some balls to even compliment them like that.

 

[blueline]

hmm i guess i could've sat closer to her

 

[blueline]

I'm really starting to see phone numbers as useless for indicators of attraction due to this kind of stuff. Even makeouts. Two different girls I made out with lately (one at a house party, and the other, across 4 dates [she refused to come back home with me each time; later on i found out she had no connection with me]) did the date rejection thing. It's ****ing annoying.

So, in order to not boost their ego until they boost mine, I feel like I'm done with makeouts (maybe a kiss on the lips max) unless i have a location to pull to right there and I'm only asking girls to come out twice. no more lengthy texts.

it's funny, you guys are giving me the exact opposite advice my player friend gives me. however, when it's been on for me, i do more or less what you guys say.

 

[Kal0051]

I'm really starting to see phone numbers as useless for indicators of attraction due to this kind of stuff. Even makeouts. Two different girls I made out with lately (one at a house party, and the other, across 4 dates [she refused to come back home with me each time; later on i found out she had no connection with me]) did the date rejection thing. It's ****ing annoying.

I noticed the same thing a long time ago. Girls give their number out to every guy they meet, sometimes just so the guy will go away (it's easier to ignore a phone call or text then it is to ignore someone in person). The make out thing could be a dozen different reasons, like buyer's remorse, maybe she's just looking to have fun, maybe she has a bf, etc. Your taking things too seriously (though I know that it's frustrating, but you get over it quickly).

 

[blueline]

I mean, is this only slutty girls, or will a girl that's interested typically chase and TRY to get you to come over or at least do something with her? They're not all shy creatures. I mean, really, it's so fucking easy when the girl is dtf. I never really wait it out and let them do this.

Outside of some really obvious things, you don't build the interest level by acting a certain way. One girl tried multiple times to get me to come over, but I just wasn't ever available when she tried (I was kinda dtf, too, haha).

 

[blueline]

When it goes down, the date is the next day after the call/txt. It's also possible that I have no idea how desperate I'm sounding. I can't think of a single time this sort of tactic has worked for me, either.

There was one girl that had to by chance meet up with me again to date me, otherwise she just got the impression I was some drunk *******. The first time I texted her, she totally blew me off. I bumped into her at a party again the next day, tried to get a conversation going and she totally blew me off. However, the following Monday, I ran into her and she opened me because she got a completely different impression of me during the day. I did end up ****ing her the following Wednesday and we dated for four months.

 

[blueline]

So, there's also this idea that you can build "comfort" via SMS. This is basically bull****, huh? You should only use it for logistics. What I was trying to do was give her more info about me so I'm not a total random, however maybe that doesn't actually do jack****. It really sounds like most women do NOT go on dates with more or less random guys outside of their social circle. Is this idea that if only she knew more about you she might go out with you also a fallacy?

 

[Kal0051]

So, there's also this idea that you can build "comfort" via SMS. This is basically bull****, huh? You should only use it for logistics. What I was trying to do was give her more info about me so I'm not a total random, however maybe that doesn't actually do jack****. It really sounds like most women do NOT go on dates with more or less random guys outside of their social circle. Is this idea that if only she knew more about you she might go out with you also a fallacy?

yep. Texting is horrible, use it only for setting up meets. Call her if you need to contact her. And girls do go out on dates with guys outside their social circle. But they only go out with guys that are confident, aren't needy, and don't suck. Your contacting her multiple times displayed neediness.

 

[scorpio1138]

don't let any woman know your intentions (liking her) over text, or in person for that matter until you have slept with her several times and even then be cautious.

 

[Thundernuts]

Okay blueline for one thing you are being way to analytical about all of this, if you keep it up you are going to pass out of frustration.

Thing you have to remember is talking on the phone is a step down from talking in person, and txting is even a greater step down from actually talking and hearing her voice on the phone, you want to try and stay out of that area and when you do txt her it should only be replying to something she says, you don't want to make yourself too available, should not have told her you are free after four most nights cuz then you look like you will have no life outside of your relationship. Chicks like guys who have their social life together.

What you should do now is just wait, i know its hard but see if she has interest in you, if you initiate contact again you might as well just tell her to fvck off. Trust me man this crap used to happen to me alot until i learned that women don't like a guy who has nothing else to do but txt them all day, girls subconciously want a guy they have to chase not a guy that is chasing them all the time and bends his schedule at a whim for them.

IF(and this is a big if at this point) she tells you she is free instead of just jumping for joy(not meaning this literally just trying to stress a point) you should tell her you are going to be busy, try and make it a social event like say your going out with your friends or going to a small party. Just let her know you have a life and she isn't the center of it, this will relax her fears and kind of put her down a notch, remember, she wants to chase you, if you make yourself harder to get the harder she will chase.

 

[nismo-4]

Judge nismo has reviewed your case.

Letting your intentions be known over texting is a no-no. Also, the fact that she's not showing a lot of interest could very well mean she's got another man and she knows she has you. And you did it all by yourself because of too much contacting. When a girl dangles pu$$y in front of you, or so much as love, reciprocate minimally. Even after f**king a girl, don't tell her you like her, love her, or any similar sh*t! And for damn sure don't tell her before it! Also, you haven't made a move on this girl for 2 years. You waited too late to escalate and now you're gonna masturbate.

You have been found guilty of showing first degree desperation as well as procrastination. The fine is wasted time, a dragged out rejection, and a one way pass to Unwanted Wood, Alabama. Only use texting or phone chat with a girl to set up a date. That's it. And procrastination will make you appear less confident. It's even worse when the friends are around.

Case closed.

 

[JLW]

Judge nismo has reviewed your case.

Letting your intentions be known over texting is a no-no. Also, the fact that she's not showing a lot of interest could very well mean she's got another man and she knows she has you. And you did it all by yourself because of too much contacting. When a girl dangles pu$$y in front of you, or so much as love, reciprocate minimally. Even after f**king a girl, don't tell her you like her, love her, or any similar sh*t! And for damn sure don't tell her before it! Also, you haven't made a move on this girl for 2 years. You waited too late to escalate and now you're gonna masturbate.

You have been found guilty of showing first degree desperation as well as procrastination. The fine is wasted time, a dragged out rejection, and a one way pass to Unwanted Wood, Alabama. Only use texting or phone chat with a girl to set up a date. That's it. And procrastination will make you appear less confident. It's even worse when the friends are around.

Case closed.

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