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Tell this hor you don't want a "relationship" - you just want to be her pimp and nothing else!!!
This HB is trying to be INDEPENDENT!!
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Rudy_TubeSteak
Senior Don Juan
Backgroung on the girl:
She admits that everywhere she goes/travel she always ends up being together with a guy. Then she focuses all her time and energy into him. She pretty much jumps into it and puts everything into it. She misses out on a lot of time on friends and other things. Much like a female version of a AFC oneitis. So she is trying to do her own thing without being involved or be dependent on a guy.
But she slips up, hence me hooking up with her and shes actually loving it. Then she regathers her thoughts and says that "this" cant happen anymore. And that I can't try and tempt her anymore cos shes working on her willpower etc.
**What she SAYS and DOES are TWO VERY different things!!! It's annoying because she what she does is a total reflection that she wants to hook up with me BUT falls back on what she says (the LJBF, independence etc). She displays the 'Signs of High Interest by Pook". So yes if I judge her on her actions, the verdict is that she wants my wang yet shes playing the innocent lady. But if I judge what she says then all hope I have is lost AND I can move on pronto.**
The question in this situation is whether to keep on DJing her and just doing my thing with her till she cracks. There is some degree of attraction and all I want is fuss-free fun. She is trying to get her act together and doesn't want something "meaningless" while she travels. So if I keep my game tight and show her a good time (well shes a foreign student, shes always looking for adventure) then things will just fall freely.
She admits that everywhere she goes/travel she always ends up being together with a guy. Then she focuses all her time and energy into him. She pretty much jumps into it and puts everything into it. She misses out on a lot of time on friends and other things. Much like a female version of a AFC oneitis. So she is trying to do her own thing without being involved or be dependent on a guy.
But she slips up, hence me hooking up with her and shes actually loving it. Then she regathers her thoughts and says that "this" cant happen anymore. And that I can't try and tempt her anymore cos shes working on her willpower etc.
**What she SAYS and DOES are TWO VERY different things!!! It's annoying because she what she does is a total reflection that she wants to hook up with me BUT falls back on what she says (the LJBF, independence etc). She displays the 'Signs of High Interest by Pook". So yes if I judge her on her actions, the verdict is that she wants my wang yet shes playing the innocent lady. But if I judge what she says then all hope I have is lost AND I can move on pronto.**
The question in this situation is whether to keep on DJing her and just doing my thing with her till she cracks. There is some degree of attraction and all I want is fuss-free fun. She is trying to get her act together and doesn't want something "meaningless" while she travels. So if I keep my game tight and show her a good time (well shes a foreign student, shes always looking for adventure) then things will just fall freely.
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Rudy_TubeSteak
Senior Don Juan
Im just thinking of going back to my old ways of just sleeping around and hooking with any girl I like. But somehow I want to try out the LTR or MTR thing just to see if how I would cope in this situation. Back then everything seemed effortless and things just happen my way. Now I'm consciously gettin into a more serious phase and I am having so much trouble.
Rudy_TubeSteak
Senior Don Juan
update:
She just came back...she walked past me while I was doing laundry and she was with her family. I was just doing my own business and said how was holidays but she was kinda in two things with her family and said shes going to give me a call later...
later on during the night she rang me and we just talked bout lil things. but i said yea i got to go get things done. i did wat u guys were saying...just said that i didnt really do much during the holidays n such...I was kinda acting a lil distant so i dont look all needy for when she comes back.
So i think i'll just act all cool and not appear needy with her. I'm doing 2 things this weekend, camping trip and a roadtrip to a resort. I was wondering if it is a good idea to invite her along.
Thanks for the help...feel free to give feedback
She just came back...she walked past me while I was doing laundry and she was with her family. I was just doing my own business and said how was holidays but she was kinda in two things with her family and said shes going to give me a call later...
later on during the night she rang me and we just talked bout lil things. but i said yea i got to go get things done. i did wat u guys were saying...just said that i didnt really do much during the holidays n such...I was kinda acting a lil distant so i dont look all needy for when she comes back.
So i think i'll just act all cool and not appear needy with her. I'm doing 2 things this weekend, camping trip and a roadtrip to a resort. I was wondering if it is a good idea to invite her along.
Thanks for the help...feel free to give feedback
Rudy,
She is a slut. But, more importantly, she is an exchange student.
So, why are you investing so much emotional effort on this? Concentrate on your studies and have fun! You are in college man!
And why do you want to be "friends" with her? Is she the daughter of some oil king? Is she the daughter of some U.S. Congressmen? What are you getting from her "friendship"? Oh, sex? You can do that without being her friend!
Do you think she is in the internet asking questions about you? Nope. She is having fun. And so should you.
She is a slut. But, more importantly, she is an exchange student.
So, why are you investing so much emotional effort on this? Concentrate on your studies and have fun! You are in college man!
And why do you want to be "friends" with her? Is she the daughter of some oil king? Is she the daughter of some U.S. Congressmen? What are you getting from her "friendship"? Oh, sex? You can do that without being her friend!
Do you think she is in the internet asking questions about you? Nope. She is having fun. And so should you.
organizedconfusion
Master Don Juan
i aggree...Latinoman said:
RT_S- you may get laid,but you sure are clueless about relationships...i thought i was the only one :crackup:
Rudy_TubeSteak
Senior Don Juan
Haha hell no I wouldnt have an MTR or LTR with an exchange student. But somehow I will have to experience what is like to be in a proper one PROVIDING the girl is worth the time and effort.
I know she aint a slut...shes been behaving very well. Her knowing wat I get up to would be a lil problem for her tho lol. If she was bein a slut then I know I'd be walking away pronto.
My friend taught me to stay friends with other girls regardless of what happened...He did that and he f*cked her friends left right and centre...And I guess that she could become a pivot too...Im just not emotionally strong at the moment and Im working on it.
Yes I am clueless about relationship but its all trial and error and I wont give up even tho I get f*cked over many times. It's just a matter of learning from that experience.
Do you guys still think its a good idea to invite her to my camping trip and roadtrip? Should I also let her know I made out with her housemate not long ago.lol. Like should my other exploits let be known to her indirectly or directly?
I know she aint a slut...shes been behaving very well. Her knowing wat I get up to would be a lil problem for her tho lol. If she was bein a slut then I know I'd be walking away pronto.
My friend taught me to stay friends with other girls regardless of what happened...He did that and he f*cked her friends left right and centre...And I guess that she could become a pivot too...Im just not emotionally strong at the moment and Im working on it.
Yes I am clueless about relationship but its all trial and error and I wont give up even tho I get f*cked over many times. It's just a matter of learning from that experience.
Do you guys still think its a good idea to invite her to my camping trip and roadtrip? Should I also let her know I made out with her housemate not long ago.lol. Like should my other exploits let be known to her indirectly or directly?
organizedconfusion
Master Don Juan
i would just be carefull about it , you sound like you care about this chick...if all else fails trust your gut instincts in what to do..why not just be cool about the situation???? all these questions make it painfully obvious of how needy and clingy you are becoming..and it seems like you can't even see it.Enjoy it for what it is and if i develops into more then so be it..yes, put in effort but do it subtly..too much and it'll just look artificial and contrived...like i said before,trust your instincts.You have enough insight to get laid, it's no different with this chick...don't get me wrong, i used to think that the girl i really liked warrented some kind of special treatment then say a slvt..not really, i treat them the same- my mental impresion of them is just different and emotionaly i am more open to them...just a little bit more..not alot more.
Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
Rudy_TubeSteak
Senior Don Juan
Yea its actually good that this situation uncovered my issues with needyness and being clingy...so I can finally iron out these setbacks and that I can continue on with the whole DJ journey...Sometimes I do need a kick in the pants cos I miss most of my mistakes. The more mistakes I find now the less likely it will set me back later on.
Yes I gotta start trusting my gut...even tho it may get me in trouble but the more i trust it the more consistent it becomes and as I said before...eventually improve in the future. trial and error.
My housemate recently broke up wit her BF...no matter how much he was an a'ss to her and doing stuff like screwing other girls she still loves him...she's always angry at him and promises not to ever see him...BUT...BUT he kept his cool and just continue to just behave like nothing happened. In no way he behaved like he was inferior. He still gets to screw her no matter how angry shes gets at him...IF he lost his cool and acts as if things affected him THEN he would have got kicked out the door.
So setting a good foundation and making sure that it is always there (ie. fun, CnF, teasing, positive attitude, ice cool persona) AND keeping cool about the whole situation will be a good thing for me. Lol how can you feel bad when you are doing this...Positive reinforces positive right???
Yes I gotta start trusting my gut...even tho it may get me in trouble but the more i trust it the more consistent it becomes and as I said before...eventually improve in the future. trial and error.
My housemate recently broke up wit her BF...no matter how much he was an a'ss to her and doing stuff like screwing other girls she still loves him...she's always angry at him and promises not to ever see him...BUT...BUT he kept his cool and just continue to just behave like nothing happened. In no way he behaved like he was inferior. He still gets to screw her no matter how angry shes gets at him...IF he lost his cool and acts as if things affected him THEN he would have got kicked out the door.
So setting a good foundation and making sure that it is always there (ie. fun, CnF, teasing, positive attitude, ice cool persona) AND keeping cool about the whole situation will be a good thing for me. Lol how can you feel bad when you are doing this...Positive reinforces positive right???
Rudy_TubeSteak
Senior Don Juan
I aint waiting for her slow a'ss and I aint about to revolve my sh*t around her...She rang me today to borrow my bike (she coulda got it off someone else as I live on the other end of the college pop 100.) to ride to the swimming pool. She went but I studied instead. An hour later she rang me again, lol she broke the key on the bikelock tha silly goose. So I had to drive over to the pool and cut the bike off the fence. I also briefly mentioned that I was going on an overnight roadtrip to this holiday destination. She asked if she was invited and I said only if your going to be nice and walked away without saying a word. She said it would be good to stay for a few days rather just overnight.
On her msn name says "what to do during the longweekend" as if shes trying to hint me.
I never rang her, msged her or talked on msn since she got back. I think being busy has helped me move on as well as getting a lot of work done. Iam also exercising how not be needy and being in control of myself.
I did something different rather hang out with HBIndependent.Tonight I hung out with a classmate of mine. Shes cute, 24 and fun...I rang her up to invite her for drinks (tomoro night) for thurs night clubnight at the uni bar...Somehow we got sidetrack and she asked me to come over to the comp labs to study.
I have a study partner who I think has a crush on her and she knows it. He is clingy, needy and freaks her out. He was at the comp lab as well and tried to chat he up. So I thought I would tease her endlessly about it. Teased her about her age and exhagerrating everything she said. We talked about all the girls I've been with and I was telling her only the interesting and funny parts of it and I talked about it in a cheeky way not a bragging way. If she assumed I was with this or that girl or if I had a girlfriend I just said "no, no way...no really" with a cheeky smirk/smile on my face. When I was telling her stuff I made it so she couldnt tell if i was joking or not but still gave her that hint that there was a certain truth to it so she sees it that i hang out and fool around with many girls and they enjoy it as well. Well i do hang out with a lot of HBs and do get to do a lot of stuff with them however I do get stuck in a rut hence i am writing on this board lol.
I was playfully saying ohhhh Im so hungry and suggested we go get takeaway (11:30pm)...I said we should go now but we cant stay for long (to show that im not needy and i just wanna get a feed) We ended up eating there for a while and joking around n stuff. she offered to pay for my meal too (is that good or bad) I cant remember if i was suppose to pay he back but ill use that to open convo with her next time.
When we got back she mentioned we should have went to her place to get her earfones to listen to music. I told her "ohh please i dont know you that well" being cheeky. I previously talked about the funny stuff ive said while with a girl when making out. So yea I was throwing out CnF a lot to which she playfully hit me about 5 times. I was also trying to nudge her into poles while walking, I've touched her waist a few times and she doesnt seem to wince away or resist it.
then later on she mentioned her earfones agains to which I just grabbed my stuff and said "ur car or mine"...So off we went...I playfully mentioned arentyou a lucky girl to take me home, I hope you dont brag to the rest of the class next week, cos id feel a tad bit embarrased lol..she seems to play along with it and we talked about her favourite songs and said she will burn a cd for me sometime.
Once we got to her place I just jumped on her bed (i have a habit of always laying on girls bed all the time as soon as im in their room....this is a college habit ive picked up) she didnt ask me to get off unlike some of the girls (only a very handful ive met in the past...they get cranky and tell me to get off it **if she lets me lie on her bed while shes gettin her stuff...does that show some kind of interest**
So yes I think shes into me (playing with her hair, playfully hitting me, plenty of eye contact, paid for my meal, bein sarcastic, joking around).I really needed to get some work done so i said im going to split. And now IM on DJ forum writing about girls n such lol
Why is there a problem?? I clammed up. I wanted to make a move. Ive touched her with my cold hands and fingers to make fun of her and she didnt object to it. I even touched her hair and commented on it. This was happenin earlier on so i think "it" was there. I wanted to kiss her but blew the chance. we were the only 2 ppl while getting our food. we drove back and mentioned something about going back to her place...we actually went back to her place. she showed me sum stuff she had and even took me to her old room. i saw pics of her sis and joked around that shes damn hot to see her reaction too lol..SOOOO now im back at my place and thinking DAMN I shoulda tried kissing her because MY GUT SAID SO but i didnt do a damn thing...she still thinks i have a girlfriend/s lol...not to mention HBIndependent who she knows is a jealous person.
so wat do you think guys...did i blow my chance or i gave her that opportunity to chase me up...i think there was sum sexual tension there. Damn it everytime things get better I sumhow manage to regress back to AFCness...
So yes...please feel free to give feedback I appreciate it
On her msn name says "what to do during the longweekend" as if shes trying to hint me.
I never rang her, msged her or talked on msn since she got back. I think being busy has helped me move on as well as getting a lot of work done. Iam also exercising how not be needy and being in control of myself.
I did something different rather hang out with HBIndependent.Tonight I hung out with a classmate of mine. Shes cute, 24 and fun...I rang her up to invite her for drinks (tomoro night) for thurs night clubnight at the uni bar...Somehow we got sidetrack and she asked me to come over to the comp labs to study.
I have a study partner who I think has a crush on her and she knows it. He is clingy, needy and freaks her out. He was at the comp lab as well and tried to chat he up. So I thought I would tease her endlessly about it. Teased her about her age and exhagerrating everything she said. We talked about all the girls I've been with and I was telling her only the interesting and funny parts of it and I talked about it in a cheeky way not a bragging way. If she assumed I was with this or that girl or if I had a girlfriend I just said "no, no way...no really" with a cheeky smirk/smile on my face. When I was telling her stuff I made it so she couldnt tell if i was joking or not but still gave her that hint that there was a certain truth to it so she sees it that i hang out and fool around with many girls and they enjoy it as well. Well i do hang out with a lot of HBs and do get to do a lot of stuff with them however I do get stuck in a rut hence i am writing on this board lol.
I was playfully saying ohhhh Im so hungry and suggested we go get takeaway (11:30pm)...I said we should go now but we cant stay for long (to show that im not needy and i just wanna get a feed) We ended up eating there for a while and joking around n stuff. she offered to pay for my meal too (is that good or bad) I cant remember if i was suppose to pay he back but ill use that to open convo with her next time.
When we got back she mentioned we should have went to her place to get her earfones to listen to music. I told her "ohh please i dont know you that well" being cheeky. I previously talked about the funny stuff ive said while with a girl when making out. So yea I was throwing out CnF a lot to which she playfully hit me about 5 times. I was also trying to nudge her into poles while walking, I've touched her waist a few times and she doesnt seem to wince away or resist it.
then later on she mentioned her earfones agains to which I just grabbed my stuff and said "ur car or mine"...So off we went...I playfully mentioned arentyou a lucky girl to take me home, I hope you dont brag to the rest of the class next week, cos id feel a tad bit embarrased lol..she seems to play along with it and we talked about her favourite songs and said she will burn a cd for me sometime.
Once we got to her place I just jumped on her bed (i have a habit of always laying on girls bed all the time as soon as im in their room....this is a college habit ive picked up) she didnt ask me to get off unlike some of the girls (only a very handful ive met in the past...they get cranky and tell me to get off it **if she lets me lie on her bed while shes gettin her stuff...does that show some kind of interest**
So yes I think shes into me (playing with her hair, playfully hitting me, plenty of eye contact, paid for my meal, bein sarcastic, joking around).I really needed to get some work done so i said im going to split. And now IM on DJ forum writing about girls n such lol
Why is there a problem?? I clammed up. I wanted to make a move. Ive touched her with my cold hands and fingers to make fun of her and she didnt object to it. I even touched her hair and commented on it. This was happenin earlier on so i think "it" was there. I wanted to kiss her but blew the chance. we were the only 2 ppl while getting our food. we drove back and mentioned something about going back to her place...we actually went back to her place. she showed me sum stuff she had and even took me to her old room. i saw pics of her sis and joked around that shes damn hot to see her reaction too lol..SOOOO now im back at my place and thinking DAMN I shoulda tried kissing her because MY GUT SAID SO but i didnt do a damn thing...she still thinks i have a girlfriend/s lol...not to mention HBIndependent who she knows is a jealous person.
so wat do you think guys...did i blow my chance or i gave her that opportunity to chase me up...i think there was sum sexual tension there. Damn it everytime things get better I sumhow manage to regress back to AFCness...
So yes...please feel free to give feedback I appreciate it
Don Juanabbe
Master Don Juan
Oi, Ruby - Canadian women are f*cked, that's all you need to know. They are brainwashed by feminism.
Rudy_TubeSteak
Senior Don Juan
Serious??? I dont know much about canada at all...they have some hot girls altho the ones Ive met are a lil messed up...they are just here as exchange students in australia
The one from the study session is aussie tho....
The one from the study session is aussie tho....
Rudy_TubeSteak
Senior Don Juan
I told HBindependent I was going to long drive to a popular river. She asked if she can come then I said If you're goin to be really nice then you might be able to. I didnt hear much from her then later found out shes travelling out somewhere else. So heck Ill have to find another HB to take lol.
She told me later on that shes not going to this other place now and just staying back in college but NO NO NO.She has lost out her chance to be with me on the lil trip. HBStudy went with me and we hung out at this creek all afternoon until she had to work at night (shes a barmaid).
When I got back I mentioned going driving and that I went with a friend (hinting it was a female...and her friends saw me leaving with her). HBIndependent was a lil pissed off about me not taking her but I told her I ask and she was too busy pissin about and that she missed out. Too bad
She told me later on that shes not going to this other place now and just staying back in college but NO NO NO.She has lost out her chance to be with me on the lil trip. HBStudy went with me and we hung out at this creek all afternoon until she had to work at night (shes a barmaid).
When I got back I mentioned going driving and that I went with a friend (hinting it was a female...and her friends saw me leaving with her). HBIndependent was a lil pissed off about me not taking her but I told her I ask and she was too busy pissin about and that she missed out. Too bad
Rudy_TubeSteak
Senior Don Juan
I just "fooled" around with HBIndependent as of now...She just left my room.
Here's the weirdest thing. I was licking and tweaking her nipples and she was getting REALLY hot. We were dry-humping like two spring-rolls untying each other. Then I was fingering her and she was getting OFF!!! BUT>>>>>BUT...she wont let me kiss her. She was basically orgasmic yet wont get kissed.
Another weird thing...she was trying to hang sh*t on me as if I just forced it upon her and shifting the guilt on to me.
Im not going for anything serious with her at all...Shes leaving soon and I aint stopping gaming other girls no matter what. I just want to go with the flow. I just want to have fun and she loves to have fun with me but why the stupid bullsh*t. Obviously as you have witnessed...this thread has been a real rollercoaster ride. It is probably not a healthy thing for me but I seem to enjoy the ups and downs of it.
I just wanna slap some sense into her.
Im still going to game other girls. Im at my best like I am tonight but I am unreliable, prone to breakdowns and regressions at other times. I am sure seasoned DJs will have some rather interesting comments and flames lol
Here's the weirdest thing. I was licking and tweaking her nipples and she was getting REALLY hot. We were dry-humping like two spring-rolls untying each other. Then I was fingering her and she was getting OFF!!! BUT>>>>>BUT...she wont let me kiss her. She was basically orgasmic yet wont get kissed.
Another weird thing...she was trying to hang sh*t on me as if I just forced it upon her and shifting the guilt on to me.
Im not going for anything serious with her at all...Shes leaving soon and I aint stopping gaming other girls no matter what. I just want to go with the flow. I just want to have fun and she loves to have fun with me but why the stupid bullsh*t. Obviously as you have witnessed...this thread has been a real rollercoaster ride. It is probably not a healthy thing for me but I seem to enjoy the ups and downs of it.
I just wanna slap some sense into her.
Im still going to game other girls. Im at my best like I am tonight but I am unreliable, prone to breakdowns and regressions at other times. I am sure seasoned DJs will have some rather interesting comments and flames lol
Rudy_TubeSteak
Senior Don Juan
Fast forward to now....after a long line of frustration and mistakes.
She is now dating another guy from my college...so much for being independent...they are travelling together. she kissed another dude before him and had him doing travel plans and doing so much sh*t for her...even staying at his parents house. now he totaly pulled out and prolly crying in his sleep
But yea we all got played in her lil talent show. She is a crafty one indeed. just having a look at her previous 3 guys she got involved...we were all pissed off at her. My last 10 are all great and still talk to most of them...by taking a look at all this, who is a better person really. she may have played me and the other guys but i kno for sure that i wont be as lonely as her when she comes out of it. the only thing im hung up on her is due to the fact i had oneitis for her and not purely for her value.
she still has this innocent thing going...she perfectly planned not to commit to anyone (48 laws of power) even tho guys still try to do stuff for her and she leads them on, including me and has worked very well for her. so if any of the guys blow up over her, she can fall back on her initial thing and comes out the winner. she simply says " i didnt want to get involved in the first place, im sorry u felt that way"
I underestimated her and she knew I was doing that. my mistake I just feel sorry for the next guy shes stringing along in her lil talent show. she doesnt have to face up to any consequences because shes leaving anyway. the guy shes with is an good guy. but wat happens with the two is none of my business.
since i first seeing her ive fooled around with 10 girls but felt hung up on her. ive learnt a big lesson on this one. i will be thinkin much better as soon as my head is cleared up of residual crap.
i was thinkin wat to say to her in an event she tries to talk to me or when i get some stuff off her that she borrowed. i dont want to be bitter and exact revenge. how i deal with this situation will be a reflection of me as a person so i want to do this properly in a Dj way. i dont want to expend unecessary effort either, dont want to inflate her ego i just want to be calm about it..
anyways feel free to comment
She is now dating another guy from my college...so much for being independent...they are travelling together. she kissed another dude before him and had him doing travel plans and doing so much sh*t for her...even staying at his parents house. now he totaly pulled out and prolly crying in his sleep
But yea we all got played in her lil talent show. She is a crafty one indeed. just having a look at her previous 3 guys she got involved...we were all pissed off at her. My last 10 are all great and still talk to most of them...by taking a look at all this, who is a better person really. she may have played me and the other guys but i kno for sure that i wont be as lonely as her when she comes out of it. the only thing im hung up on her is due to the fact i had oneitis for her and not purely for her value.
she still has this innocent thing going...she perfectly planned not to commit to anyone (48 laws of power) even tho guys still try to do stuff for her and she leads them on, including me and has worked very well for her. so if any of the guys blow up over her, she can fall back on her initial thing and comes out the winner. she simply says " i didnt want to get involved in the first place, im sorry u felt that way"
I underestimated her and she knew I was doing that. my mistake I just feel sorry for the next guy shes stringing along in her lil talent show. she doesnt have to face up to any consequences because shes leaving anyway. the guy shes with is an good guy. but wat happens with the two is none of my business.
since i first seeing her ive fooled around with 10 girls but felt hung up on her. ive learnt a big lesson on this one. i will be thinkin much better as soon as my head is cleared up of residual crap.
i was thinkin wat to say to her in an event she tries to talk to me or when i get some stuff off her that she borrowed. i dont want to be bitter and exact revenge. how i deal with this situation will be a reflection of me as a person so i want to do this properly in a Dj way. i dont want to expend unecessary effort either, dont want to inflate her ego i just want to be calm about it..
anyways feel free to comment