This guy needs even more help than I do

[needimprovement250]

I don't understand these types of people, and I never will. If you are that mentally ill, see no future, and want to end it all, why take other innocent people with you? Some may empathize with a Byronesque lense to taking your own life, however, taking the lives of others descends into the depths of banal evil.

Yeah exactly, that type of action is never a justifiable way to deal with your personal struggles in life, not to mention that not being able to get laid has got to be one of the worst reasons to carry out an attack like that, the people who have done that are getting what they deserve by rotting in hell for all eternity. If these people would’ve just off’ed themselves instead, people would’ve actually felt bad for them and it might have even raised awareness about lonely and dateless men dealing with depression and suicidal thoughts, which might have even led to public health campaigns being launched to combat this issue and encourage these men to seek outside help for their dating struggles and for others close to them to reach out and offer to help however they can (maybe by offering them dating advice or even to set them up with a single friend of theirs) if they notice he’s lonely and depressed about it.

But instead, these guys like George Sodini and Elliot Rodger have made more unstable psychopaths become emboldened to carry out horrible attacks against innocent people like they did and it’s now become a public safety threat.

 

[needimprovement250]

I'm not so sure about being the "original", but he was probably the first that presented incelibacy as problem in society (killing folks tends to get such problems recognized). He was also the first recognized instance of BlackPill - which I define here as the meme that RedPill PUA tactics are not enough for an incel-tier man to ascend - as evidenced by the video of him at a PUA seminar, and of the PUA books on his coffee table in his infamous Aspergerish video about how is home is all ready to have a woman move in ("I'm sure she'll be impressed").

Before this, the only incel murderer had been Marc Lépine in Québec in 1989, far before the incel or even PUA had become memes. His attack was considered to be just regular misogyny, while Sodini's was considered to an incel attack. Of course, the Elliot Rodger attack, with his infamous video about wanting to get even for women that had spurned him, was the one that really made incel a meme.

Its always been strange to me that Elliot Rodger’s attack is what inspired more of these psychopaths to carry out attacks of their own when George Sodini’s attack happened years before Elliot’s did. The only conclusion I’ve been able to come to is that back when Sodini carried out his in the early 2000’s, smartphones were still a new thing and not very advanced yet and social media also wasn’t as prevalent in everyday life, I don’t think Facebook even existed yet when that happened. Both of those things went on to significantly change the dating world (especially as dating apps started being used more) and a lot more men started to struggle with their dating lives in the smartphone and social media/dating app era, which had come into existence by the time Rodger did his attack, so maybe more of these unstable people related to Rodger’s struggles with women in this new dating era that had been reshaped by these technological advancements that have changed our everyday lives.

 

[MatureDJ]

Its always been strange to me that Elliot Rodger’s attack is what inspired more of these psychopaths to carry out attacks of their own when George Sodini’s attack happened years before Elliot’s did. The only conclusion I’ve been able to come to is that back when Sodini carried out his in the early 2000’s, smartphones were still a new thing and not very advanced yet and social media also wasn’t as prevalent in everyday life, I don’t think Facebook even existed yet when that happened. Both of those things went on to significantly change the dating world (especially as dating apps started being used more) and a lot more men started to struggle with their dating lives in the smartphone and social media/dating app era, which had come into existence by the time Rodger did his attack, so maybe more of these unstable people related to Rodger’s struggles with women in this new dating era that had been reshaped by these technological advancements that have changed our everyday lives.

I think it's just the timing of the rise of True Forced Loneliness (TFL) - which is a somber, not militantly angry, meme - and Incel. The Sodini incident happened when TFL was dominant, whereas the Elliot Rodger incident happened when the Incel meme had begun to flourish (i.e., its first iteration was r/PUAHate). I don't think OLD was that big of a Sexual Market catastrophe at the time of the Rodger incident.

As for why we're not seeing an utter explosion in incel massacres as OLD has taken over, I think that outlets like Chaturbate & OnlyFans have taken the edge off enough to keep this at bay.

 

[Solomon]

Saw a minute

Guy is 25 bum living at home with parents (at his age you could give that a slight pass, is he working?)
Doesn't have a HD diploma nor a license
and he expects women to come after him?

Yikes

 

[SW15]

he expects women to come after him?

Eliot Rodger also expected that his look and his black BMW 3 Series would have females flocking to him. Rodger did very few actual approaches.

 

[Vantagepoint34]

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You should do a deep dive if you feel like it, but you’re pretty spot on already. He’s been making these videos since 2017 and in the past 5 years, so many people have tried giving him advice and he refuses all of it, he has an excuse ready no matter what advice is offered to him as to why that wouldn’t work for him. His most recent video is about why he thinks that self improvement goals are pointless and overrated, and he thinks that fitness goals are a waste of time and has mocked guys who lift and are in shape while also resenting them for having success with women, he thinks the education system is broken and won’t lead him to a good career, he didn’t get his first ever job until he was 24 and he’s only had 2 jobs so far, he quit the first one after about a month and a half and got fired from the second one after about 3 weeks and he also says that he keeps failing the behind the wheel test for his license and that’s why he hasn’t gotten it yet.

At this point, people have also started making these parody videos about him that I linked below because of the fact that he’s unwilling to take charge and change his life. and while they are funny if you’ve been watching his videos and know what kind of person he is, it might not be a good idea to poke the bear on this one since he already seems unstable and he’s said that those parody videos really bother him and that he feels cyber bullied from them. I also agree that he would repel any girl that he’s introduced to, I think that @DonJuanjr has the right idea (especially since he’s said before that he likes fatter girls) but he’ll even run them off with his attitude and personality that he currently has, not to mention the fact that he would instantly write her off if he found out that she’s ever blown a guy or taken it up the ass, even just once in her life.

Op Has great selection of content…. Local batmans’

 

[manfrombelow]

These guys are potential mass-shooters, all of them.

 

[VirtuousD]

Dude is a White male, all he has to do is go to Asia and he'd be worshipped as a god by the women.

Or he can probably just go to any major US city which has a large Asian population and he'd easily find an Asian woman.

May I suggest, San Francisco.

Facts, i've been saying this for ages. If a white dude is an incel then my god he really ain't **** that white skin is worshipped worldwide lol

 

[thelambofdeth]

Dude is a White male, all he has to do is go to Asia and he'd be worshipped as a god by the women.

Or he can probably just go to any major US city which has a large Asian population and he'd easily find an Asian woman.

May I suggest, San Francisco.

Many Latinas and Indians worship them too. For some weird reason, they don't want to hear this, but there is literally no excuse for being a white incel when so many different sects of women put white men on such a pedestal and covet them. You're either overly lazy or have artificial standards way too high. It's legit playing with cheat codes.

 

[needimprovement250]

Saw a minute

Guy is 25 bum living at home with parents (at his age you could give that a slight pass, is he working?)
Doesn't have a HD diploma nor a license
and he expects women to come after him?

Yikes

No he’s unemployed, he got his first ever job maybe about 6 months ago and it was at a fast food place. He lasted about a month before he quit, then he got a temporary job at a warehouse but he got fired after a few weeks of working there. I don’t think he’s even applied for any jobs since then. Not only that, but he will instantly write off any women who have ever blown a guy or taken it up the ass, because both of those are disgusting and immoral in his opinion, but yet he wants a girl who will purposely burp and fart on him because he thinks that’s hot and not disgusting at all.

 

[needimprovement250]

Facts, i've been saying this for ages. If a white dude is an incel then my god he really ain't **** that white skin is worshipped worldwide lol

Many Latinas and Indians worship them too. For some weird reason, they don't want to hear this, but there is literally no excuse for being a white incel when so many different sects of women put white men on such a pedestal and covet them. You're either overly lazy or have artificial standards way too high. It's legit playing with cheat codes.

These were actually interesting to me because I’m white and I never knew it was like that. This thread is supposed to be about Marshall Mathers the 4th and not me, and I don’t want this thread to take a turn from its intent and start being about my situation so I’ll make this quick. But I’m almost 29 and never had a girlfriend, also haven’t had sex since I lost my virginity 7 years ago. I don’t consider myself an incel though because women aren’t to blame for my situation, I’ve never asked anyone out or made a move at all with any girl. I’ve just always had a pessimistic view of my dating prospects and thought that I would be guaranteed to get rejected every single time no matter what I did or changed about myself. These days, I’m more concerned that no girl will want to be a first girlfriend to a guy as old as me and that my inexperience is gonna get me rejected every time and I’m still working to get past that and not let it hold me back.

But I guess I can see the point here because the girl I lost my virginity to was Asian and she actually came onto me. She gave me her number when I was at work and then she asked me out and pretty much initiated sex too, I even told her how inexperienced I was and that I had never even kissed a girl because I was pretty nervous and that didn’t deter her at all and she still wanted to hook up. I wish that would’ve proven to me that inexperience isn’t always an issue, but I think its because I’m older now and haven’t done anything else since then.