This guy needs a serious help. Got beaten by a 33 years old mother of 5 kids.

[amoka]

I was at the lab yesterday when I received a call from a buddy of mine who wants to use my camera. I asked him what for? He said his buddy, whom I know well but not very well as much as my buddy, needs it to take some photos. Could not really think of the reason why he would need the camera so I told them ( he was at my buddy's place) to meet me at my place.

When they came, I noticed scratch and bruises on his face. Then I asked what's with you? Then the story started:

He found out from a courier mommy four months after having sex with this woman that she is pregnant. He tried to do abortion but it was too late. Last November, a baby boy was born. Looks nothing like this dude but the woman insist the child is his. The guy requested for a DNA to be performed but the wh0re got pissed and questioned why the guy "don't believe her. And why does she was fvcking around. Does he think she's a wh0re?"

I did not know any of these until yesterday. Anyway, about a week ago, there was some altercation between them so they decided to not talk to each other... only when it is related to the child. So last Friday, my buddy's friend was home watching movie and then this Getto woman who is 33 years old, already have FOUR kids with FOUR different fathers, making him the FIFTH. One of the child is EIGHTEEN years old... making her given birth at FIFTEEN, came knocking on his door loudly.. waking his neighbors in the process. When the dude refused to open the door, she broke through the class door, entered the house and beat the dude up. This guy was afraid of "having records" in the event that a police is called so he allowed the GETTO chick to beat the hell out of him.

The neighbors called the police but by the time the police came, damage was done to this dude. What is annoying is that he even refused to press charges on the woman "because of the baby". I have no clue how to help this guy. I told him to get the DNA of the child to determine if indeed he is the father of the child. There were plenty of red-flags he missed. Damn, I feel sorry for this dude.

 

[Semtex]

lol, the word is 'buddy'

 

[Julius_Seizeher]

Hell, if the pregnant loser b!tch broke into my place, I'd kill two birds with one shotgun shell.

Women need to be scared of us again. It is nature's intention. And what happens when we fight nature? We have men getting beat up by fvcking women IN THEIR OWN PLACE. This sh!t is ridiculous, I'll ponder it no further.

 

[ThatMysteriousGuy]

Dude, this is 2009, Rite-Aid pharmacies and other ones have DNA "swab the father and child's saliva with a q-tip" DNA test in a box near the register for $200. An extra $300 gets him official court documents.

Stop approaching this emotionally, give him a solid logical way to settle this matter.

And, stop feeling sorry for people. You're not in charge of saving the world.

 

[amoka]

why do you care? you need to mind your own business, that's what you need to do!

lol... an empty vessel.

 

[Jitterbug]

I read it on a MRA site recently but your buddy needs to move quick. Depending on where he lives, he may only have 30 days to do the DNA test and prove to the court that he's not the father if she is going to put his name on the baby's birth certificate. The assault is not important right now, 18 years of slave labour as a cuckold is waiting for him!

 

[amoka]

I read it on a MRA site recently but your buddy needs to move quick. Depending on where he lives, he may only have 30 days to do the DNA test and prove to the court that he's not the father if she is going to put his name on the baby's birth certificate. The assault is not important right now, 18 years of slave labour as a cuckold is waiting for him!

Yeah, the only smart thing he did was he refused to sign the birth certificate. So, at the moment, the child fatherless.... He confessed to be giving the woman some money... I told him to stop giving this woman any money unless she can prove to him that he is indeed the father of the child.

 

[Jitterbug]

Whoa, her putting your name on the birth certificate makes you the default daddy and liable for support? I know the state of the union is very bad for the male at the moment, but I cannot believe it has come to that?

IANAL, but I read on some MRA site (possibly The Spearhead) that in certain states, if it can be proven that she's had a relationship with you, you have 30 days to dispute paternity. A woman who knows the system can deliberately give the judge the wrong address so that you never get enough notice to do anything about it. Once the 30 days are up, you get to slave it up for 18 years. The State couldn't care less about justice for you nor who the real father is. They just want some sucker to pay.

I told him to stop giving this woman any money unless she can prove to him that he is indeed the father of the child.

Good move, but I suggest that he should be *proactive* in proving that he's NOT the father, as they've had a sexual relationship. This woman has done it 4 times, she knows the system well and the system favours her rights over his. She won't prove sh!t.

I'd point him to the guys over at The Spearhead (or pick any prominent MRA site) for help.

 

[Nutz]

IANAL, but I read on some MRA site (possibly The Spearhead) that in certain states, if it can be proven that she's had a relationship with you, you have 30 days to dispute paternity. A woman who knows the system can deliberately give the judge the wrong address so that you never get enough notice to do anything about it. Once the 30 days are up, you get to slave it up for 18 years. The State couldn't care less about justice for you nor who the real father is. They just want some sucker to pay.

For example: In California you have 30 days from the time official notice is sent out that you've been named as the child's father to challenge the claim, otherwise you're on the hook for child support. And those wondering about paternity testing, sorry guys, but states don't require them to garnish your wages as they usually go on the mother's word alone. And here's the part most people don't know: the state leaves it up to the woman to declare where to send the official notice, often times sending it to themselves and sitting on it for the 30 days! The state doesn't give a rats a$$ because they get their pound of flesh. That's how horrible the system is these days. Sad part is that California isn't the only state that's that bad off. Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Ohio, Indiana, Texas, Florida, and several others are all equally culpable.

 

[MatureDJ]

Wait a minute. Are you all trying to say that some wh0re could pick out some (presumably wealthy) man and put his name on the birth certificate, and then put his address as some fake address (perhaps to an apartment known to be empty), in which case he is never formally served notice, and then after 30 days, he is the legal baby daddy, no ifs, ands or buts?

It would seem at the very least that the man would at least need to go in front of a judge at which time the man could say, "your Honor, I will happily undergo a DNA test to prove my non-paternity."

 

[Jitterbug]

I think she has to prove that they've been in a sexual relationship at some point. Other than that, yes to all of those. Scary huh?

Edit: I did read about one case where the woman could only name the guy, and the court sent the notice to the wrong guy who unfortunately shares the same name. The wrong guy was on the hook for child support for years until the court finally corrected that mistake, but there was no refund for the poor bloke.

 

[mrRuckus]

It's the stuff that murder-suicide is made for.

 

[amoka]

I think she has to prove that they've been in a sexual relationship at some point. Other than that, yes to all of those. Scary huh?

Edit: I did read about one case where the woman could only name the guy, and the court sent the notice to the wrong guy who unfortunately shares the same name. The wrong guy was on the hook for child support for years until the court finally corrected that mistake, but there was no refund for the poor bloke.

Ridiculous. Why can't the guy sue the woman who wrongly accused him?

 

[Nutz]

Wait a minute. Are you all trying to say that some wh0re could pick out some (presumably wealthy) man and put his name on the birth certificate, and then put his address as some fake address (perhaps to an apartment known to be empty), in which case he is never formally served notice, and then after 30 days, he is the legal baby daddy, no ifs, ands or buts?

It would seem at the very least that the man would at least need to go in front of a judge at which time the man could say, "your Honor, I will happily undergo a DNA test to prove my non-paternity."

Yup, that's exactly how bad it is. Some states have finally gotten their heads out of their butt and made it so that a woman can't just file in county after county and have the state garnish your wages for the same kid over and over again. However, there's no national level check, so a woman could just file in multiple states if she moves around. Then you've got state A, B, and C garnishing your wages for her leaving you with lots of lawyer & court fees to sort out the mess. And currently women will not be charged for this type of fraud as govt isn't taking it seriously as a crime. They just fix the paperwork and charge you the proper amount, assuming it's actually your kid. If it's not, then it can turn into a mess. And if you stop paying the court can toss you in jail. And the way the system is set up, even if you're not the dad and it's a false claim, it could be months until you get a court date. That means you're stuck paying. And no, you will not have those funds reimbursed by the woman or state(s) responsible for the wage garnishment. And don't even think about not paying. You'll get tossed in jail. Yes, that's right, they can afford the time to toss you in jail after non-payment well before they have the time to hear your side of the story about not being the baby daddy. That's how the system is currently works.

Here's the worst part most guys are oblivious to: many states have a statue of limitations on challenging paternity. If your woman cheats and has a kid, but tells you it's yours and you don't challenge it within that window of time, then you're on the hook until the kid is 18 or 21. Georgia just passed a law making a negative paternity test a free exit to support obligations though and I think a couple other states are contemplating following in their footsteps, but don't get your hopes up just yet. Also, Tennessee is trying to make paternity testing mandatory at birth before a father can even be named on a birth certificate. It'll go a long way to preventing paternity fraud right from the start, although it doesn't fix the situation a lot of guys are left with.

AND the other half of the statute of limitations catch: in some states if they wait after it expires and then claim you as the father THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO to challenge paternity UNLESS the judge decides to let you have a paternity test. Many times they will not claiming "best interest of the child". Legally you have no grounds to challenge the paternity in these situations, and it's all based on the word of a woman who you may have never even met.

 

[Nutz]

I think she has to prove that they've been in a sexual relationship at some point. Other than that, yes to all of those. Scary huh?

Edit: I did read about one case where the woman could only name the guy, and the court sent the notice to the wrong guy who unfortunately shares the same name. The wrong guy was on the hook for child support for years until the court finally corrected that mistake, but there was no refund for the poor bloke.

Andre Sharp vs Walter Andre Sharp. The wrong guy got served notice about the child support notice and ignored it when he realized it was a mistake. But the court had his signature on the notice saying he was served. Because HE didn't show to the court hearing the court ruled in the woman's favor. Also, the guy has kids of his own he was supporting. When he couldn't afford the extra child support for the other woman's kid (he's a garbage collector), the court tossed him in jail for 6 months. They did this FOUR TIMES!!!! That's 2 years of his life down the drain, not to mention the money he couldn't give to his actual children because he wasn't earing anything while sitting in jail. The court would not let him have a paternity test to declare him not the father. The claim was "best interest of the child".

Oh, and the other thing worth noting: the woman in question filing for support didn't even have custody of the child in question. The girl lived with her actual father! The only reason the guy got off the hook was when the woman filing failed to show up to a court appearance. It's important to point out that the guy didn't get out of this because of justice, he merely just got lucky.

 

[Warrior74]

Georgia is slowly getting it together. My good friend is free from paying child support because the mother refuses to allow the child to be swabbed for a DNA test. No DNA, no cash. The way it should be. The only problem is that he really doesn't know if it's his son or not and it tears him up. Of course she won't let him see the child or he could just do it himself and know for sure.

 

[bigjohnson]

Once again, I have to say, put some little soldiers in cold storage and get that vasectomy. "Your honor, I've been sterile since 1994 ..."

 

[amoka]

edit:....

 

[MatureDJ]

Andre Sharp vs Walter Andre Sharp. The wrong guy got served notice about the child support notice and ignored it when he realized it was a mistake. But the court had his signature on the notice saying he was served. Because HE didn't show to the court hearing the court ruled in the woman's favor. Also, the guy has kids of his own he was supporting. When he couldn't afford the extra child support for the other woman's kid (he's a garbage collector), the court tossed him in jail for 6 months. They did this FOUR TIMES!!!! That's 2 years of his life down the drain, not to mention the money he couldn't give to his actual children because he wasn't earing anything while sitting in jail. The court would not let him have a paternity test to declare him not the father. The claim was "best interest of the child".

*** That was foolish, not even calling up the court to say that this was a mistake. Of course, I could see someone calling up the court and having some airhead staff member telling him, "oh, just throw away the notice ..." :nono:

 

[Nutz]

*** That was foolish, not even calling up the court to say that this was a mistake. Of course, I could see someone calling up the court and having some airhead staff member telling him, "oh, just throw away the notice ..." :nono:

That more or less happened when he tried to get it all cleared up. They took all his info and submitted him anyway, hence why he was suing the state for identity theft.