This.. F*cking.. Sucks..

[backbreaker]

just keep churning bro. can't tell you how many ****ty dates I've been on in my life time. some that just don't' make no sense ****ty. Just beucaase a woman isn't into you doesn't mean you are doing anything wrong. think of it more as a weeding out process. the women who aren't returning your calls, are just showing they aren't comptable with you. nothing more nothing less.

don't even try to understand because you can't. you have no idea wast goes on in these girls heads. It is what it is. some girls are going to be into you, some won't. the more dates you get more confident, the more you have your mojo working, the more girls will like you. just keep churning.l you aren't doing anything wrong .

one day you will even be to the point where you are texting a booty call for a nap cap in the middle of a date because you don't like the way the date is going lol. just be patient.


I would stay away from the bro's sister, because if you do that you can't possibly spin plates. you have to go all in with your bro's sister or else you have to deal with your friend. I couldn't let a friend of mine date my sister and spin plates in good faith. just can't do it. I know that's how the game works but that's my sister.; I know the fishing is easier closer to shore but sometimes you gota get in the boat and find a better spot to fish even though it's more difficult to do.

 

[Alex DeLarge]

You gave a manager of a place you took the girl on a date to her phone number? Cause you were too cheap to pay her 5 or 10 bucks? What a douche...... Maybe that's your problem......

It's about the principle, not the cost. This chick got mad that her date would not pay for her and stormed out of the venue like a little miss princess b1tch. She just figured "Well if he won't voluntarily pay for it, I'll make him pay for it!".. Not even taking into consideration that she had just broke a crime. Why? Cause she's a woman and thinks she's entitled to do those things!

What did she do to deserve to have her drink payed for? If she thinks that this guy HAS to pay for her drink just cause the stupid b1tch gave her a second of her day.. She is on a fvcking ego trip. It's a nice gesture sure, but they guy doesn't have to pay IF HE DOESN'T WANT TO. The chick shouldn't freak out like a little brat and storm out just because the guy decided not to pay for her.e

I bet her girlfriends rooted her on too. "YOU GO GIRL!" while they shove another spoonful of icecream down their throats and flick their bean to the badboy in their lifetime movie collection while spouting how much they "hate" him. Yet, if the guy got up and left like that.. I'm sure some white knight pvssy whipped slave at the venue would've tackled him.

 

[.Paradox.]

Also, friends sister ended up calling me again yesterday morning saying she had thought about it and still wanted us to hang out, but take it slow. Had nothing else planned for the night so I saw her and had a good time. Spent the night last night and then most of the day today at her place due to snow. Slightly awkward because her entire family was at the house - including her brother, a good friend of mine. Couldn't even kiss her till like 7pm tonight because they were literally constantly around us.

That wishy-washiness is a bit of a red flag.

 

[Korrupt]

Three dates within a week..

Last Sunday I went mini-golfing with a girl I met from OkCupid. Kissed her at the end and she's been texting me quite a bit, but I'm not that attracted to her and don't really want to hang out with her again.

Friday I went out with a 37 year old I met on PoF. Red flags all over the place but she was attractive enough to get in bed with. Kissed closed it as well. Texted her tonight and got rejected. Said I was "hot" and she had a good time but she didn't "feel it." Didn't respond to her.

Also had drinks with a waitress I met sometime last week this afternoon. Several little make-outs during the date and we both *seemed* to have a really good time so I'll get in touch with her in a couple days and see what happens.

Oh, and I was supposed to go out with a 32 year old I met on PoF this Wednesday, but she had to re-schedule for tonight. When I texted her making sure that we were still on for tonight she tells me "No. I have to cancel. Again. I suck. You're really hot so I'm sure it's my loss but I'm seeing someone blah blah." Didn't respond.

It's kinda turned my world upside down that girls will actually allow you to kiss them on a first date when they're not really interested, then reject you or ignore you later.

 

[floydb25]

Too much internet dating, my friend. It's just like dating girls from the bar, at a party, or in a *****house. These girls typically use internet dating because they're crazy, desperate, have issues, too many kids, or are fat and disgusting. Or, the internet is the only place where no one knows them, and doesn't hate them (yet). It's also the only place where they can surround themselves with morons like themselves, and feel good about the attention they receive - because they can't get it from anywhere else. I've seen nasty, huge, deformed, manish women brag about how hot they are on there - because they get messages from desperate men complimenting them. These *****es actually have high standards; are arrogant, conceited, and stuck up - because they believe to be hot and in-demand. It's unreal at how delusional some people can be. But these girls are crazy, and live in fat-internet-fantasyland, so whatever.

Just like the bar trash. They're all crazy, depressed, easy, worn-out, delusional, narrow-minded, shallow, and get along with each other. Nothing is going to last with these kind of girls. Internet dating is very similar to bar dating. That's why people use both tools for easy lays, and nothing else. Gotta know your target audience. There's no quality to be found in a group of trash. Yeah, you might occassionally find a few decent ones at the bar or on the internet, but the odds are definitely against you.

Try finding some decent chicks at the store (any store), in the park, at the library, on the streets. What kind of girls are you going for on PoF? They all sound like tools. Any profile links? Might need to change the kind of women you're going after, and become better at choosing. There's a lot of dumb *****es out there. Up to you to find the good ones in the pack.

 

[Serg897]

I feel what you're going through. The past two weeks I've been on four dates, only one of them has the potential to go to date #2, and I had a fifth girl flake at the last minute.

Its just a dry spell. I've been here before. It is never permanent. Continue living and things will change - they always do.

 

[Korrupt]

Too much internet dating, my friend. It's just like dating girls from the bar, at a party, or in a *****house. These girls go on there cause they're crazy, have issues, too many kids, or are fat and disgusting. Or, the internet is the only place where no one knows them, and doesn't hate them (yet). It's also the only place where they can surround themselves with morons like themselves, and feel good about the attention they receive - because they can't get it from anywhere else. I've seen nasty, huge, deformed, manish women brag about how hot they are on there, because they get messages from desperate men complimenting them. These *****es actually have standards, because they believe to be hot and in-demand.

Just like the bar trash. They're all crazy, depressed, hateful, easy, delusional, narrow-minded, shallow, and get along with each other. Nothing is going to last with these kind of girls. Internet dating is very similar to bar dating. That's why people use both tools for easy lays, and nothing else. Gotta know your target audience.

Try finding some decent chicks at the store (any store), in the park, at the library, on the streets. What kind of girls are you going for on PoF? They all sound like tools. Any profile links? Might need to change the kind of women you're going after, and become better at choosing. There's a lot of dumb *****es out there. Up to you to find the good ones in the pack.

The waitress I DID meet in "real life," so we'll see where that goes. And I've learned my lesson with the older chicks after getting myself in a bad situation and hurt by an older woman, so I was just looking to lay/f*ck buddy them. With the younger girls, if they're cool and attractive I'm open to actually see where it goes. Also haven't been laid in over a month, so bring on the crazies!

I feel what you're going through. The past two weeks I've been on four dates, only one of them has the potential to go to date #2, and I had a fifth girl flake at the last minute.

Its just a dry spell. I've been here before. It is never permanent. Continue living and things will change - they always do.

:rockon:

 

[floydb25]

OP: In that case, I'd recommend reframing your mindset. You're not concerned about dating someone who's trash, but get upset when they turn out to BE trash. Can't take this seriously, bro. Treat it as it is. Just keep dating and fooling around without any concerns or expectations. These girls aren't to be taken seriously, so don't. Stop caring about what they do. Trash will be trash.

 

[The_411]

Find a better spot to fish from. PoF is like fishing in a grimmy pond sure you could catch something but chances are you're never going to catch anything worth keeping.

Of coruse you're just trying to get yourself out of funk but it seems like you've got too invested in the women even if it is minimal investiment.

You should be on slaying rampage. Escalate fast charm and try to get things going fast. Have no pretense that these women are worth anything more than a hit & quit unless they are capable of demonstrating it.

Sometimes you can click with a girl and they change their mind on a whim. It's not fun but understand that's where keeping frame that no one is a keeper until they prove it emphatically. Either she was flakey or you may have slighly projected the sentiment that you were into her.

 

[Korrupt]

Ugh.. Jesus.. It's gonna be a loooonely week. Got a text from my friends sister (who I mentioned earlier that I was starting to date), well we were supposed to go snowboarding this coming weekend (me, her, her brother and his girlfriend) and the text I got last night told me that her old music teacher, who was apparently very close to her family, died last week and she's driving to another state with her family to go to the funeral this weekend.

I also texted the waitress who I had a great time with at lunch on Sunday.. She tells me "I'm working all week and I'm going to blah city this weekend. Maybe next week?"

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[floydb25]

Eh... I go back to the original point that these girls aren't that into you. A girl who really wants to see you will take the time to do so. No one is THAT busy. Are they too busy to hang out with their friends? Of course not... Just you.

You might also be trying too hard, and coming off as desperate. The more you fail - the less confident and more desperate you become - the more you fail even more. It's quite the vicious cycle. Just gotta stop caring so much. This shows in your behaviors, and turns them off - whether you realize it or not. Gotta always come off as confident, independent, care-free, upbeat, and in-demand - regardless of how unsuccessful you are. Roll with the punches until you find one that sticks. And even then, don't cling or act desperate. This never ever works.

Rejection is not a big deal unless you make it one. You can't let it get to you, allow it to destroy your self-esteem, or cause a change in your behaviors (in the desperate / pushy / needy sense). It doesn't matter if someone doesn't like you. No need to become bitter, and ruin your chances even more. Dating is a game, and should not be taken seriously in the beginning. Next.

 

[.Paradox.]

Just outta curiosity.. Can you post your latest text conversations with these last two girls? I just find it odd that you'd go on a date with a girl, have a great time (as you've said), make-out, then when you hit her up you get "I'm busy."

 

[Korrupt]

Eh... I go back to the original point that these girls aren't that into you. A girl who really wants to see you will take the time to do so. No one is THAT busy. Are they too busy to hang out with their friends? Of course not... Just you.

You might also be trying too hard, and coming off as desperate. The more you fail - the less confident and more desperate you become - the more you fail even more. It's quite the vicious cycle. Just gotta stop caring so much. This shows in your behaviors, and turns them off - whether you realize it or not. Gotta always come off as confident, independent, care-free, upbeat, and in-demand - regardless of how unsuccessful you are. Roll with the punches until you find one that sticks. And even then, don't cling or act desperate. This never ever works.

Rejection is not a big deal unless you make it one. You can't let it get to you, allow it to destroy your self-esteem, or cause a change in your behaviors (in the desperate / pushy / needy sense). It doesn't matter if someone doesn't like you. No need to become bitter, and ruin your chances even more. Dating is a game, and should not be taken seriously in the beginning. Next.

I agree, but I honestly don't think I'm acting desperate. The girl even tells me to text her when I want to hang out again. Not something I'd say if I didn't want to see someone again.

Just outta curiosity.. Can you post your latest text conversations with these last two girls? I just find it odd that you'd go on a date with a girl, have a great time (as you've said), make-out, then when you hit her up you get "I'm busy."

Waitress - today..

Me: Hey *name*, Sunday was fun. We should definitely hang out again soon. What's your schedule like this week?

Her: Hey Korrupt sorry I've been at work all day. But I work all this week, and I'm actually going to *city* this weekend. Lol maybe next week?

Me: Yeah, for sure. We'll do something next week. Have fun in *city* and you're gonna have to tell me about it when you get back!

Her: Haha I will for sure.

Friends sis - yesterday..

Hadn't talked to her or seen her in a week so I decided to hit her up on Saturday just to make my presence known..

Me: Hey *name*, how've you been? Did you make it to *city*?

Her: Yes, I made it here fine. Thanx

Me: Cool. You're gonna have to tell me about it! And I'm looking forward to going snowboarding with you and *brother* next week

Her: Yeah Next weekend, it's going to be fun! How have you been doing?

Me: I've been good. Just really busy with school, the gym, and other stuff. I'm in need of a little vacation already haha.

Her: That's cool. You're staying busy. Yeah, vacation is great. It's going to be nice to get away next weekend

Me: Yes, it definitely will be nice. And I'm heading to bed, so I'll talk to you next week, *name*. G'night

Yesterday..

Her: Hey Korrupt, I really wanted to go but something came up. A really close friend of our family died last week and I'm driving back to *city* with my family for her funeral on Saturday

Me: I'm sorry to hear that. That's terrible.. And since you all are going to *city* this weekend, maybe we can go snowboarding next weekend.

Her: Yeah Korrupt, I'm sorry.. I'm going to talk to my brother and we'll figure something out soon.

Me: It's cool. We'll figure it out.

 

[floydb25]

Hmmm... It seems like you are doing the initiating, commenting, and planning after the dates. You want to let them contact you afterwards. Make them wonder if you're going to contact them; what you're up to; if you want to see them again. This builds anticipation and uncertainty, and is a huge part of the challenge / attraction phase.

The roles need to be reserved. Hate to say it, and don't mean it in a degrading way, but you're acting like a female. You're wanting to know all about how their days are (like their girlfriends do), initiating the contact, asking if they're busy and when they're free, being overly friendly and "nice", too available and responsive, over-eager, not taking charge... You're putting yourself in the role of an uncertain, insecure, agreeable pursuer. Like, you're just waiting for them to say yes, so you can jump up and down in joy.

Gotta man up. Take the lead. Become the prize. Know your worth. Be assertive. Dont be uncertain. Don't ask. Say they should come with you to such and such. Act a little ****y and flirtacious. Show some dominance and initiative. Be confident, and show it - like you KNOW they like you. Don't act overly interested in them too soon. Let them chase you. Don't let them decide if they want to see you - make them want to see you. They should be missing and contacting you. You should be deciding if you want to see them, and fitting them into your schedule. It's all backwards. The things you're doing and saying is exactly what females do to me after dates. Like, exactly. You're giving off the wrong vibes.

You also want to get a sexual vibe going. There's too much friendly talk going on. Granted, these were brief conversations, but you want to set the tone early. There's too much nice guyism going on. You want to be nice, but strong and sexual. Act like a man. Act like a boyfriend. Don't be too friendly. Make some sarcastic comments here and there; not too serious or interested. Keep it light and humorous. Laughter is good. Fit this in with the sexual tone, as well.

Women friendships are a lot different than male ones. This is how a lot of guys become their friends. They talk to her about everything, want to know all about their day / lives / problems, are always available, want to "hang out" often, act friendly and nice, give off submissive / uncertain vibes. This is how women friendships are. Male ones are not. If you act too friendly - you're gonna become her friend. Mix it up. Act a little more exciting, dominant, sexual, care-free, and casual. The attraction phase is huge. This is where you MUST attract them, and set yourself apart from their friends. There's gotta be passion, anticipation, lust, excitement, and chemistry - even on the dates themselves.

Don't think doing the opposite is what they want. It seems like you are behaving this way because its what you assume they respond to. Just a hunch. You don't want to act too nice, available, or relationshipy too soon. The dating phase is very casual and exciting. Gotta have those sparks. You can be boring and nice later. Ha.

 

[Korrupt]

Hmmm... It seems like you are doing the initiating, commenting, and planning after the dates. You want to let them contact you afterwards. Make them wonder if you're going to contact them; what you're up to; if you want to see them again. This builds anticipation and uncertainty, and is a huge part of the challenge / attraction phase.

In my personal experience, with 90% of girls, if I don't contact them after the initial dates, I'll never hear from them. I do agree that contacting them too often or too soon is a mistake, though.

I actually remember going on a date a looong time ago and it went really well. Good conversation, kissed her, but I wasn't that interested so I never contacted her. Well, I actually hit her up a while later asking if she wanted to come over and f*ck (completely serious) and she agreed! When she got to my house one of the questions that she asked me was "so why didn't you ever get in touch with me after our date?" This is how girls my age are. She obviously liked me and wanted to see me again, but I never contacted her, and she never contacted me BECAUSE I never contacted her. Ridiculous, right?

The roles need to be reserved. Hate to say it, and don't mean it in a degrading way, but you're acting like a female. You're wanting to know all about how their days are (like their girlfriends do), initiating the contact, asking if they're busy and when they're free, being overly friendly and "nice", too available and responsive, over-eager, not taking charge... You're putting yourself in the role of an uncertain, insecure, agreeable pursuer. Like, you're just waiting for them to say yes, so you can jump up and down in joy.

Gotta man up. Take the lead. Become the prize. Know your worth. Be assertive. Dont be uncertain. Don't ask. Say they should come with you to such and such. Act a little ****y and flirtacious. Show some dominance and initiative. Be confident, and show it - like you KNOW they like you. Don't act overly interested in them too soon. Let them chase you. Don't let them decide if they want to see you - make them want to see you. They should be missing and contacting you. You should be deciding if you want to see them, and fitting them into your schedule. It's all backwards. The things you're doing and saying is exactly what females do to me after dates. Like, exactly. You're giving off the wrong vibes.

Isn't it slightly contradictory to say that you need to be a man, take the lead and be assertive, then say you need to play the passive role of waiting for the other party to text you after a date?

But I do agree that I'm acting a bit insecure in my texting. I used to tell girls when I was free, then if they said they were busy I'd recommend one other day and if they still said they were busy I'd tell them to hit me up if they wanted to do something. Guess I should get back to that. Only thing is, I LOATHE putting the ball in their court now because I know how unpredictable (for lack of a better word) women can be when it comes to getting in touch.

You also want to get a sexual vibe going. There's too much friendly talk going on. Granted, these were brief conversations, but you want to set the tone early. There's too much nice guyism going on. You want to be nice, but strong and sexual. Act like a man. Act like a boyfriend. Don't be too friendly. Make some sarcastic comments here and there; not too serious or interested. Keep it light and humorous. Laughter is good. Fit this in with the sexual tone, as well.

I use texting only as a tool to set up dates. Asking the one girl how she was doing was just a rare occasion to stay in touch since we live an hour away from each other. Most of the time it's "let's do such and such in XXX on YYY," - or "What's your schedule like?" "Well I work on XYZ but I'm free on ABC." "Okay, let's do such and such in *place* on *day*" And that's it. But yes, I totally agree you need to keep a sexual vibe during your dates, otherwise you'll be in friend zone city.

Women friendships are a lot different than male ones. This is how a lot of guys become their friends. They talk to her about everything, want to know all about their day / lives / problems, are always available, want to "hang out" often, act friendly and nice, give off submissive / uncertain vibes. This is how women friendships are. Male ones are not. If you act too friendly - you're gonna become her friend. Mix it up. Act a little more exciting, dominant, sexual, care-free, and casual. The attraction phase is huge. This is where you MUST attract them, and set yourself apart from their friends. There's gotta be passion, anticipation, lust, excitement, and chemistry - even on the dates themselves.

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.. All I asked was what her schedule was so I could set up a date! Haha. Agree that I should have dropped the "you're going to have to tell me about it" part though.

Don't think doing the opposite is what they want. It seems like you are behaving this way because its what you assume they respond to. Just a hunch. You don't want to act too nice, available, or relationshipy too soon. The dating phase is very casual and exciting. Gotta have those sparks. You can be boring and nice later. Ha.

Thanks for the input!

 

[The_411]

Key to remember follow actions not words. Women jsut like men will say all sorts of things they don't mean.

Women love attention and they love orbiters because it gives them self-esteem allows them to know they are desired and they have to do little to no work for attention because the orbiter is already keyed in.

To get women you have to demonstrate that your time is important, valuable and if they don't step up, there will be another girl who will.

It's the same reason diamonds are so valuable or gold is more valuable than silver.

Such diamonds and gold have their uses but certainly not enough to justify their artificially inflated value.

By being readily available and never saying no your value is that of quartz. Now quartz has a lot of utilitarian value but it's artifical value isn't much greater than it's intrinsic value.

By being rare unavailable you create the perception that having a piece of you is valuable and a girl feels lucky to be able to spend time with you.

Think about that the next time you say yes to a girl for the 10th time in a row or return phone calls immediately or respond imemdiately.

I'm not suggesting artifically inflating your value by saying no and not returning calls. What I am suggesting is actually increasing your value by being so busy that you can't be available.

 

[.Paradox.]

I agree, but I honestly don't think I'm acting desperate. The girl even tells me to text her when I want to hang out again. Not something I'd say if I didn't want to see someone again.



Waitress - today..

Me: Hey *name*, Sunday was fun. We should definitely hang out again soon. What's your schedule like this week?

Her: Hey Korrupt sorry I've been at work all day. But I work all this week, and I'm actually going to *city* this weekend. Lol maybe next week?

Me: Yeah, for sure. We'll do something next week. Have fun in *city* and you're gonna have to tell me about it when you get back!

Her: Haha I will for sure.

Friends sis - yesterday..

Hadn't talked to her or seen her in a week so I decided to hit her up on Saturday just to make my presence known..

Me: Hey *name*, how've you been? Did you make it to *city*?

Her: Yes, I made it here fine. Thanx

Me: Cool. You're gonna have to tell me about it! And I'm looking forward to going snowboarding with you and *brother* next week

Her: Yeah Next weekend, it's going to be fun! How have you been doing?

Me: I've been good. Just really busy with school, the gym, and other stuff. I'm in need of a little vacation already haha.

Her: That's cool. You're staying busy. Yeah, vacation is great. It's going to be nice to get away next weekend

Me: Yes, it definitely will be nice. And I'm heading to bed, so I'll talk to you next week, *name*. G'night

Yesterday..

Her: Hey Korrupt, I really wanted to go but something came up. A really close friend of our family died last week and I'm driving back to *city* with my family for her funeral on Saturday

Me: I'm sorry to hear that. That's terrible.. And since you all are going to *city* this weekend, maybe we can go snowboarding next weekend.

Her: Yeah Korrupt, I'm sorry.. I'm going to talk to my brother and we'll figure something out soon.

Me: It's cool. We'll figure it out.

First girl I would have just dropped the "have fun and you're gonna have to tell me about it when you get back!" And instead said either nothing after the "we'll do something next week," or something flirty like "don't have TOO much fun in *city* "

Second girl I know you said that you wanted to stay in touch, but I really don't think it was necessary to text her at all.

Anyways, I don't believe that THESE texts would completely disqualify you. You didn't say anything extraordinarily smooth, but you weren't begging them for dates either. And I know Floyd says to let them come to you, but I also know what you mean about younger women being extremely passive when it comes to dating. They wait for you to do everything and anything. My advice for these two girls? Text the first one early next week, like Monday and propose doing something that same day/night - "Hey Blah, I've got some free time tonight, let's go bowling. Well, as long as you're not gonna cry when I kick your ass " If she gives you an excuse and doesn't reciprocate you're gonna have to next her. Don't hit the second girl up at all. Just let her come to you.

 

[floydb25]

You guys must be doing something different... Girls are always pushing to meet again after the first meet-up, or even before. And they're always balls out with it... Won't leave me alone until I agree. Pestering and demanding to meet right now - this very instant - no delays or excuses. Doesn't matter if they're young or old... They chase like crazy, right away. Literally after exchanging numbers. We have to meet up. We have to see each other. We must date. It has to be right now. NOW. They explode my phone with texts about this crap, and won't take no for an answer. I have to respond. We have to talk. Never do I initiate much of anything, or even really approach or do anything.

So, I'm just going by what works for me, and how my interactions play out. Might be different for others. Hence the problem with seeking and giving advice. Every situation and every person is different. But it seems like women want what they want when they want it, and won't leave you alone until they get it. So, if she wants YOU - she'll pester you to death about it, and will contact you constantly. I never have women holding back. It's super intense. Not all of these girls are the most assertive, either. Some are shy, but when they want something - watch out. They go balls out all the same.

 

[The_411]

You guys must be doing something different... Girls are always pushing to meet again after the first meet-up, or even before. And they're always balls out with it... Won't leave me alone until I agree. Pestering and demanding to meet right now - this very instant - no delays or excuses. Doesn't matter if they're young or old... They chase like crazy, right away. Literally after exchanging numbers. We have to meet up. We have to see each other. We must date. It has to be right now. NOW. They explode my phone with texts about this crap, and won't take no for an answer. I have to respond. We have to talk. Never do I initiate much of anything, or even really approach or do anything.

So, I'm just going by what works for me, and how my interactions play out. Might be different for others. Hence the problem with seeking and giving advice. Every situation and every person is different. But it seems like women want what they want when they want it, and won't leave you alone until they get it. So, if she wants YOU - she'll pester you to death about it, and will contact you constantly. I never have women holding back. It's super intense. Not all of these girls are the most assertive, either. Some are shy, but when they want something - watch out. They go balls out all the same.

Not really, their urgency is one of two things. It's either a) that you've done an excellent job and they're hooked or b) they're impatient and want to hook-up and then move onto the next fish. Either way you're projecting scarcity and that your time is valuable. That's what women respond to ...

 

[Korrupt]

I don't know what to say.. Most girls I've dated have been passive in my experience (at least early on). And like I said about the one girl in my post.. Went out with her, had a good time, made out, but I wasn't that interested so I never contacted her (and she never contacted me). Then when I (out of the blue) hit her up for sex a while later she came over and first told me that she was pleasantly surprised I had contacted her, then asked me why I never got in touch with her after our date (which was some months earlier).

So she was interested enough to come over two different random nights at 11pm just to f*ck when I asked her, but she didn't take the initiative to hit me up after our date.