This crap is a problem, guys.....

[AJ84]

I never said it was. At most, she deserved to be fvcked and thrown away.

The fact that she had to "walk on eggshells" means she was doing something stupid or disrespectful. Lots of women want to both have a relationship and flirt with their orbiters. If a man objects, then he's too "controlling"

I'm willing to bet that killing her was revenge on her orbiters and justice for himself. He obviously planned it.

I understand why this murder happened. I don't condone it, support it or think it was right, but I do understand it.

Des, we don't know what was really going on in their relationship other than she was uncomfortable with his behaviour and reported it to the police. And he stabbed her to death. And according to what I googled he was reported to the police by a previous girlfriend for following her around and taking pictures of her and sending her a text that he will drown her.

Yes, some women get ticked off if they can't flirt with other guys and other bs that they feel they should be able to do, they should be dumped for sure.

But you're a smart person so you know not all girls are the same or do the same crap. You're assuming a lot here.

It's sad in any case. For both of them and the families.

 

[AJ84]

No, I am suggesting that if this guy was healthy, he wouldn't have melted down over a girl trying to leave him, game or no game. I just called it "game". Apparently that's where the misunderstanding is coming from.

Understood.

 

[Desdinova]

But you're a smart person so you know not all girls are the same or do the same crap. You're assuming a lot here.

... and with good reason. The majority of women out there are like that, and the majority of men out there don't like it. Men who want a loyal female companion will have a major internal struggle between the frustration of her desire to keep multiple men in her life, and trying to avoid being "controlling". Each men will deal with it differently. Some will shut off their emotion, some will become violent towards their woman, some will write off women altogether.

It's rare that a man will become aggressive toward his woman just because he wants to or because he's simply an a55hole. There's a reason behind it.

I honestly think this guy's problem is his temper, his lack of self control, and his lack of self-confidence to NEXT a woman and get a new one. All of this could have been prevented if someone told him to avoid rewarding garbage women with exclusivity, and that there's always a better woman out there.

 

[AJ84]

... and with good reason. The majority of women out there are like that, and the majority of men out there don't like it. Men who want a loyal female companion will have a major internal struggle between the frustration of her desire to keep multiple men in her life, and trying to avoid being "controlling". Each men will deal with it differently. Some will shut off their emotion, some will become violent towards their woman, some will write off women altogether.

It's rare that a man will become aggressive toward his woman just because he wants to or because he's simply an a55hole. There's a reason behind it.

I honestly think this guy's problem is his temper, his lack of self control, and his lack of self-confidence to NEXT a woman and get a new one. All of this could have been prevented if someone told him to avoid rewarding garbage women with exclusivity, and that there's always a better woman out there.

For sure his lack of self control, perhaps his lack of self confidence as well.

I used to work at a shelter for abused women. I can tell you that there isn't always a reason for the aggression, unless wanting to eat more then one meal a day is a reason, as was the case for one of the woman who had all of her ribs broken, or needing to give her breast milk to her baby and not her husband, like another who had her left eye gauged out. Some people actually are just aholes.

Also, you're calling a murdered woman garbage, and you don't even know her, or what was going on in the relationship. Can you imagine if a female relative of yours was stabbed to death by her ex and some guy just assumes she was garbage? I'm sure her parents would love to hear that.

I know you don't condon what happened but damn Des.....

 

[Desdinova]

I can tell you that there isn't always a reason for the aggression, unless wanting to eat more then one meal a day is a reason, as was the case for one of the woman who had all of her ribs broken, or needing to give her breast milk to her baby and not her husband, like another who had her left eye gauged out. Some people actually are just aholes.

So you don't believe that mental health is a problem in those situations?

Also, you're calling a murdered woman garbage, and you don't even know her, or what was going on in the relationship.

Sure I'm going out on a limb here, but most of the women I've dated have the same problems. Let's see what I can get from the article...

The pair had been in a seven-month relationship after meeting on Tinder

I've never dated a submissive, sweet feminine woman through online dating. Most of the women on online dating sites have been alpha-widowed and enjoy male attention.

After they split up, Stimpson posted derogatory comments and photographs about Ms McLaren on Facebook, including claims she was taking drugs.

They never stated that her drug use was disproved.

From the little I've learned from the article, the signs point to her being another garbage woman. Just because she was murdered, it doesn't mean she was good relationship material.

Again, I don't condone what happened here. I'm saying that the little bit of information provided about her is leading me to believe that she wasn't a great piece of work either.

 

[AJ84]

So you don't believe that mental health is a problem in those situations?



Sure I'm going out on a limb here, but most of the women I've dated have the same problems. Let's see what I can get from the article...

The pair had been in a seven-month relationship after meeting on Tinder

I've never dated a submissive, sweet feminine woman through online dating. Most of the women on online dating sites have been alpha-widowed and enjoy male attention.

After they split up, Stimpson posted derogatory comments and photographs about Ms McLaren on Facebook, including claims she was taking drugs.

They never stated that her drug use was disproved.

From the little I've learned from the article, the signs point to her being another garbage woman. Just because she was murdered, it doesn't mean she was good relationship material.

Again, I don't condone what happened here. I'm saying that the little bit of information provided about her is leading me to believe that she wasn't a great piece of work either.

I would say some of those abusers for sure had mental illness. I would also say the majority weren't aholes, just not able to regulate emotions, low impulse control, etc.

But a few of these men ( and one women who beat her female partner), I would say, in my opinion, were aholes, based on what I knew of them and the hospital and police reports.

I do know that some of the women who received the worst abuse were also the meekest.

I'm digressing a bit but I remember one of those women's ex wanted her to get pregnant, she did, and when she was about 7 months along he decided she was too fat and would pay more attention to the baby then to him. He had been sleeping around while she was pregnant and got herpes and knew that if he slept with her when they were active it may kill the baby so he raped her. I guess he didn't realize that the risk to the baby was during the birth, not before, as he thought the baby would just die inside her. Unfortunately, the woman didn't tell her OBGYN so they could plan a c section to reduce the risk. The baby ended up with neonatal herpes which caused mental retardation.
The sad thing is that if she had gotten herpes before getting pregnant, the baby would probably of been fine because she would of have anti-bodies built.

Anyway, sorry I went off track there, that story always stuck with me. And for the record, I don't think people with herpes are garbage lol. Anyone can get an STD. But I do think that guy was garbage.

Yeah I agree that most of the women online like the male attention. But other than her being on Tinder, and possibility doing drugs, I don't see signs that she was garbage. And for the record, I don't see drug use necessarily making someone garbage.

But we're coming from different perspectives, and I get where you are coming from based on yours.

Let's agree to disagree lol.

 

[speed dawg]

But you're a smart person so you know not all girls are the same or do the same crap. You're assuming a lot here.

Desdinova is speaking more in generalities, as am I. It is my natural inclination. This drives certain people crazy, because there are always exceptions to the rule. Seems like you're the type that sees the exceptions. And that's fine. At the end of the day we are both probably accurate.

 

[AJ84]

Desdinova is speaking more in generalities, as am I. It is my natural inclination. This drives certain people crazy, because there are always exceptions to the rule. Seems like you're the type that sees the exceptions. And that's fine. At the end of the day we are both probably accurate.

I try to because I think we all tend to base our views on past experiences, naturally,and it makes it difficult to see things from another perspective. I recognize I do this too. But I do try to see other perspectives and acknowledge that my view may be biased. It takes effort sometimes lol.

I kind of have to practice this due to my job but also because it helps maintain better relationships in my personal life.