Things you learned after entering the Seduction Community

[HeyPachuco!]

This is specifically about attraction. More for the advanced guys whom had some form of good game who reguarly go to bars, parties and clubs. What things did you learn after getting involved in the seduction community?

Isolation
I'll start. I never thought about isolating a girl and the purpose behind it. I didn't view it as a crucial waypoint, because I never knew any better. Now, whenever I'm attracted to a main girl of a group, I wouldn't think twice about not isolating her. Also, when to isolate a girl. This is crucial since I used to get way too many interrupts and was left, cradling my beer wondering what the hell happend.

Getting the "Thumbs Up" or "Greenlight" from everyone else in her group is essential. I would've totally ignored this before, probably even fought fire with fire with them to gain her approval, but what this did was only backfire on me. I, now see why its important to gain the group's approval in the longrun.

Making sure I have a good time
I used to go out for the sole purpose of meeting girls, and THATS IT. When I joined the seduction community, I saw lots of theories of this and that and what you could do in a bar setting etc, but few emphasized on the concept of having fun. I found an article over at RSD, and those boys have "Fun". I hd the confidence, but I was stiff. It didn't look as if I was having fun. Thats one of the main things about going out for me now. Not only in general, but when I interact with girls. I want to enjoy her, and for her to enjoy me. I'd only be her entertainment monkey, if she acts a monkey with me.

Being Un-reactive
This was a hard one for me to come to terms with. Back then, if I had been turned down by a kiss, number, neg or general conversation starter it would've ruined my whole night. Making me REACTIVE to the target. I'd probably strop somewhere around the club and moan to my mates, that this club is so and so or these girls are so and such. After reading heavily on this concept, its probably the most effective arsenal in my game yet. Being un-reactive. Yes, these things should be common sense, but it wasn't so straight forward then as it is now. I've seenw ith my own eyes, how powerful this little tool can be.

Building rapport AFTER getting the contact details
Pretty basic, but still important. Usually if I had gotten the number, it'll be "Okay, bye, chat to you soon" and I'll scram. I think this helps with the level of flakes you'll get in the bigger picture. Staying just 5 or less minutes after getting her details reduces the flake tendency. I'm not saying this has always been dependent, but it has helped me a whole lot just by adding that extra rapport and not making me seem as if I was just adding another notch to my phonebook.

Outcome dependent
I was heavily outcome dependent on my interactions then. This could also relate to being unreactive. My expectation of every interaction was to either get a close on the following; Make-out or number. Even though I thought I wasn't being needy, if I look back at some interactions. Subconciously, I was. My mindset now is more of a experience point rato rather than failing or not closing. If I get rejected, its a learning experience. If I get through with a close, its another learning experience. I always thought getting a number was the be all and end all of attraction. Boy, was I wrong.

When I get a number now. It reminds me much of a Mcdonalds Cheeseburger wrapper near the bins. Doesn't mean anything. Before I would've smiled the whole night if I got a hotties number and hi5 my boys. Now, I'd just go over to the next and probably forget to call her. Funny how things change.

Judge by her actions, not by her words
Not so much for attraction in interactions for me, but moreso with dates and Short-term relationships. I've noticed this is a huge indicator of interest from the girl. Don't judge by her words, but by her actions. The thing is, I knew this was a concept I should've taken seriously then, but I was blinded by poon and made mistakes I could've easily avoided. Looking back, I'm actually embarrassed of some the nonsense I thought was "Alpha" or "Taking dominant roles".

The community gives you a format of what you were doing and what you weren't doing, by text or by illustration. So, for the guys that did have game before coming into the community, what concepts have resurged your game?

 

[Scion]

The biggest thing I've learnt is that women are *****s.

 

[Razor Sharp]

I've learned that the seduction community is a magnet for freaks, nerds and people with deep psychological problems. Don't get me wrong, you will find a few gems here and there, people who know what time it is and are just looking out for their bros. But that's rare.

The combination of anonymity, boredom, frustration and celibacy has a tendency to play out some hollywood sized drama on these forums. It's definitely the only sector where I see more than 10 pages of pure "you're a fag", "no, YOU'RE a fag!" type of dialogue.

It's still worth paying a visit - get a little shine from a gem and give some back to someone who needs it.

But to get the most out of these places, moreso than your average forums, you really need to learn how to ignore stupidity and rudeness. People got a lot to prove in these online sausage-fests, some want to make a living out of it - others just want to live up to some imaginary persona of what they wish they were. Others just want to f*ck with people's heads to make up for all the p*ssy they are not f*cking.

It's a grim situation. Egos are at stake. Virtual rep points are on the table. It's every man for himself - life or death serious business! :crackup:

As for what I've learned, its pretty simple

- Know what you want
- Take what you want
- Take nothing seriously
- Have a lot of interests aside from women to enrich your life
- Always be learning and working on yourself, or a project that matters
- Have FUN every single time you go out or do anything.
- Have options
- Have standards, and apply them via screening
- Too much talking can land you in the friend zone.
- Lead her at all times
- Seduction is a dance
- Two steps forward, one step back
- Let her miss you
- Predictability = Death. Surprise her often
- Reward the good, punish the bad
- Have the power to walk away
- Rejection is actually FUN

I could elaborate but time is short...

 

[Warrior74]

I've learned that the seduction community is a magnet for freaks, nerds and people with deep psychological problems. Don't get me wrong, you will find a few gems here and there, people who know what time it is and are just looking out for their bros. But that's rare.

The combination of anonymity, boredom, frustration and celibacy has a tendency to play out some hollywood sized drama on these forums. It's definitely the only sector where I see more than 10 pages of pure "you're a fag", "no, YOU'RE a fag!" type of dialogue.

It's still worth paying a visit - get a little shine from a gem and give some back to someone who needs it.

But to get the most out of these places, moreso than your average forums, you really need to learn how to ignore stupidity and rudeness. People got a lot to prove in these online sausage-fests, some want to make a living out of it - others just want to live up to some imaginary persona of what they wish they were. Others just want to f*ck with people's heads to make up for all the p*ssy they are not f*cking.

It's a grim situation. Egos are at stake. Virtual rep points are on the table. It's every man for himself - life or death serious business! :crackup:

As for what I've learned, its pretty simple

- Know what you want
- Take what you want
- Take nothing seriously
- Have a lot of interests aside from women to enrich your life
- Always be learning and working on yourself, or a project that matters
- Have FUN every single time you go out or do anything.
- Have options
- Have standards, and apply them via screening
- Too much talking can land you in the friend zone.
- Lead her at all times
- Seduction is a dance
- Two steps forward, one step back
- Let her miss you
- Predictability = Death. Surprise her often
- Reward the good, punish the bad
- Have the power to walk away
- Rejection is actually FUN

I could elaborate but time is short...

^^^This!

-Everybody has an angle

 

[kingsam]

ive learned .... TONALITY ...
is very important

 

[Serialized3]

Pretty epic post so far. :rockon:

[not being] Outcome dependent
Judge by her actions, not by her words

- Have a lot of interests aside from women to enrich your life
- Always be learning and working on yourself, or a project that matters
- Have options
- Have standards, and apply them via screening
- Lead her at all times
- Let her miss you
- Have the power to walk away

These are some of the the things that have really resonated with me over the past 9 or so years that I've been in the "community". I've been working on a document trying to put together all my knowledge and experience, success and failure, mainly for myself, but I'd like to share it with you all too. It's not even close to finished, but when it is I'll post them with more detail in the Tips section.

Here's some of the stuff I've learned, most of it is in regards to attitudes a good mack should develop, as well as a few realities about women.

Attitudes:

- Respect yourself and commit to self-improvement
- Be self-aware and see yourself for who you really are, especially your weaknesses
- Be open to learning at all time and from all different kinds of people
- Don’t take game seriously
- Money, unless you let it consume you, equals opportunity, freedom and peace of mind
- Always go with your gut feeling
- If you don't do it now, when are you going to do it?
- Don't be misogynistic

Realities:

- Women are drawn to men with a lot going on for them in their lives
- Women want two men at the same time - the alpha badboy and the provider beta
- Looks matter
- Women need a leader
- Getting sex isn't that hard - maintaining your standards is
- At the end of the day, women want a man who acts like he has a big dick and can nail them good with it

 

[Strelok]

Long story short:

1)What and and how to deal with sh1t tests from women or men.

2)Why we are programmed to be AFC and why being an AFC backfire.

3)How it's important to improve ourselfs

4)How we can aspire to get quality girls instead of settle for trash

5)MOST IMPORTANT see all the sh1t women and society push on us,being it shaming tactics or else.
Actually the blue pill is what I appreciated the most,get our free will back.

The rest are details useful in order to satisfy one of the previous points.