They will ALWAYS come back if........

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1.) You are not clingy. You are aloof. You have or act like you have lots of other options.

2.) You dont reach out. Make her do the work. Stop letting your fingers (text) and mouth (calling her) get you in trouble. If she stops responding to your messages, who cares. Go to the next one.

3.) You AGREE with her if she brings up "the talk". If she starts saying how this isnt working out or other discussions of lost interest, AGREE with her and ACT happy about it. "I am glad you brought this up because I feel the same and I think we need to go different directions"

4.) If a woman breaks up with you, completely disappear. Vanish. Dont answer her bread crumb text. Make her wonder why it was so EASY for you to walk away. They will chase and then you can decide if you want to allow her back into YOUR life.

5.) You dont put up with her bullshyte. Have some self respect and demand more out of these women when they act disrespectful and they will chase you for it. Let them be disrespectful and they will walk all over you and keep their eyes open for a man who will not put up with blatant disrespect.

6.) If she acts of low interest and you are the one keeping the communication going, stop it. If she has any true interest she will come back.

They WILL NOT come back if you:

1.) Chase. You NEVER chase. No woman is worth acting like a little upset b!tch over.
2.) Be a doormat and have low standards and let women treat you like shyte.
3.) Abuse......physical, mental and drug/alcohol abuse. You are a man, treat her like a woman.
4.) She monkey branches on you and the new guy works out. At that point you shouldnt want her back anyways.

There are billions of women in this world. If one isnt making you happy, move the fvck on to the next one. She will change her tune or watch you walk away. You dont have to say anything, withdraw attention and abort.

Out of the 3 women I am currently smashing, only one made it really easy. She may be LTR material but until I know for sure, I will keep all options close.

One of the others said that "I was too good for her"....after 2 dates and smashing. What did Glassguy do? I agreed with her and stopped texting. 2 days ago she resumed messaging me asking when we could hang out again. Drinks and smashing scheduled for tomorrow night.

The other one, super hot 27 yr old who I left at the bar Saturday night for being Ms Social butterfly and slightly disrespectfully ignoring me, reached out immediately the next morning. I made her do the reaching out. Smashed last night. Will continue on the same plan of only responding to her messages and she is plate status only.

Women want men with higher standards who will LEAD her. Dont follow a woman around and chase. You are man. Act like it.
 

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All star material right there. outstanding
 

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I think your post is solid, hence the like, however I lost a fair amount of girls by simply following number 2 of your post. Reason was the same for all of them: they were intimidated. Sometimes you gotta be the initiater.
 

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intimidated by what? reach out initially recourse but if they go cold and respond back a day later or short etc. I think he means to Let THEM reach back out to you?
 

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I think your post is solid, hence the like, however I lost a fair amount of girls by simply following number 2 of your post. Reason was the same for all of them: they were intimidated. Sometimes you gotta be the initiater.
This doesnt pertain to a chick that you just met and sent first message to.

That's why the post is about they will always come BACK.

If they havent been with you before, they werent there in the first place and cant come back.

If you have went out with a chick more than once, or stuck your d!ck in her, my post applies.

If you think some chick at the supermarket wants to suck your c0ck just because of the way she looked at you, it doesnt apply.

Its not that complex. I could have just dumbed this down for some people and said "Do not double text and dont be a pvssy chasing a pvssy", but most need more fluff on here these days lol.
 

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intimidated by what? reach out initially recourse but if they go cold and respond back a day later or short etc. I think he means to Let THEM reach back out to you?
Trust me, if you have high value (looks, money, social status, career, personality, witty, educated) MOST women will be at least slightly intimidated by you. That should be the case once you go out with them once or twice and the see what a great guy you are and wonder how you are single (thats when you cant beat them away with at stick btw). Intimidation can be very sexual, especially now with all of the feminine B-D-S-M shyte these days with Shades of Gray, which women gobble up.

Intimidation can increase interest. I feel it will actually create stronger sexual tension and increase her interest in you.

And if she honestly think she is way below you on the attraction/lifestyle scale to the point that she doesnt want to date you, she is probably right and you need to stop dumpster diving.

Low interest/loss of interest/interest in someone else....these are the reasons women stop responding to guy's messages/calls/offers. The reference in my post about not reaching out is for just that.....when she is not responding anymore or much less often and you are the only one keeping the convo going. If she has high interests she will reach back out. If she doesnt, she wont.
 
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No way to guarantee it but I've found of you bang them right and leave on good terms there is a much higher chance
 

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You just said you walked out several times and she made moves to get you back.

She did come back, you just didn't accept her advances. Of course women aren't going to chase the carrot forever. They will eventually lose interest if it is one sided.

If you have the right mentality and don't do the wrong things when it initially ends, they will come back.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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And if she honestly think she is way below you on the attraction/lifestyle scale to the point that she doesnt want to date you, she is probably right and you need to stop dumpster diving.
This happens more often than we think. If you have your stuff together, many girls feel uncomfortable due to very low self esteem. They may let you smash but then they will run away and sabotage it.
 

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Said it before, this is the problem with this site. The rich, educated, smart, intelligent, tall, good looking people of the world do EVERYTHING in their power to COMMIT to one woman and start a family.

Yet sosusave tells its members "Spin spin spin plates. If she isn't f*ucking you on consistent basis, move on. There are tons and tons of available, educated, good looking, single, smart, young, little baggage, no kids women that are very very easy to meet and will be begging to sleep with you if she isn't.

Top Actors and Doctors and Directors and Lawyers and Nobel Prize winners can't meet these type of girls, but sosuave members can? Give me a break.
 

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Said it before, this is the problem with this site. The rich, educated, smart, intelligent, tall, good looking people of the world do EVERYTHING in their power to COMMIT to one woman and start a family.

Yet sosusave tells its members "Spin spin spin plates. If she isn't f*ucking you on consistent basis, move on. There are tons and tons of available, educated, good looking, single, smart, young, little baggage, no kids women that are very very easy to meet and will be begging to sleep with you if she isn't.

Top Actors and Doctors and Directors and Lawyers and Nobel Prize winners can't meet these type of girls, but sosuave members can? Give me a break.
"Spinning more plates" is not always the answer though it's dispersed ad nauseum here on SS. "Abundance" is a mindset, not an actual number (of women).
 

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1.) You are not clingy. You are aloof. You have or act like you have lots of other options.

2.) You dont reach out. Make her do the work. Stop letting your fingers (text) and mouth (calling her) get you in trouble. If she stops responding to your messages, who cares. Go to the next one.

3.) You AGREE with her if she brings up "the talk". If she starts saying how this isnt working out or other discussions of lost interest, AGREE with her and ACT happy about it. "I am glad you brought this up because I feel the same and I think we need to go different directions"

4.) If a woman breaks up with you, completely disappear. Vanish. Dont answer her bread crumb text. Make her wonder why it was so EASY for you to walk away. They will chase and then you can decide if you want to allow her back into YOUR life.

5.) You dont put up with her bullshyte. Have some self respect and demand more out of these women when they act disrespectful and they will chase you for it. Let them be disrespectful and they will walk all over you and keep their eyes open for a man who will not put up with blatant disrespect.

6.) If she acts of low interest and you are the one keeping the communication going, stop it. If she has any true interest she will come back.

They WILL NOT come back if you:

1.) Chase. You NEVER chase. No woman is worth acting like a little upset b!tch over.
2.) Be a doormat and have low standards and let women treat you like shyte.
3.) Abuse......physical, mental and drug/alcohol abuse. You are a man, treat her like a woman.
4.) She monkey branches on you and the new guy works out. At that point you shouldnt want her back anyways.

There are billions of women in this world. If one isnt making you happy, move the fvck on to the next one. She will change her tune or watch you walk away. You dont have to say anything, withdraw attention and abort.

Out of the 3 women I am currently smashing, only one made it really easy. She may be LTR material but until I know for sure, I will keep all options close.

One of the others said that "I was too good for her"....after 2 dates and smashing. What did Glassguy do? I agreed with her and stopped texting. 2 days ago she resumed messaging me asking when we could hang out again. Drinks and smashing scheduled for tomorrow night.

The other one, super hot 27 yr old who I left at the bar Saturday night for being Ms Social butterfly and slightly disrespectfully ignoring me, reached out immediately the next morning. I made her do the reaching out. Smashed last night. Will continue on the same plan of only responding to her messages and she is plate status only.

Women want men with higher standards who will LEAD her. Dont follow a woman around and chase. You are man. Act like it.
Women are monogamous by nature and their DNA. Always have been, always will. The biology of what attracts males and females has not changed in 10,000+ years. Though some women cater to many beta male orbiters, I think it's because they cannot find ONE GOOD man to be with. I agree, to some degree, they do like the attention all the online BS gives them.

Yes, there are more and more Cluster B and all-out crazy women on the market today because of the breakdown of the nuclear family and all-around good parenting. This has created legions of "damaged" women that we hear most often about on SS. But, they are also the exception and minority on a percentage basis when compared to the population at large. Plus, most women under 30 are just plain immature, so expecting anything "adult" from them is a long shot at best.

Dating multiple men and never committing to one does go against their programming. It was not biologically advantageous for a woman to be out having sex with as many men as possible. No, they are "designed" to be monogamous and raise offspring--in any species. Sure, society had muddied the water with dating apps and social media but its' effects are fleeting for women.

In the end, masculinity (for women) and femininity (for men) rule the laws of attraction.
 

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Women are monogamous by nature and their DNA. Always have been, always will. The biology of what attracts males and females has not changed in 10,000+ years. Though some women cater to many beta male orbiters, I think it's because they cannot find ONE GOOD man to be with. I agree, to some degree, they do like the attention all the online BS gives them.

Yes, there are more and more Cluster B and all-out crazy women on the market today because of the breakdown of the nuclear family and all-around good parenting. This has created legions of "damaged" women that we hear most often about on SS. But, they are also the exception and minority on a percentage basis when compared to the population at large. Plus, most women under 30 are just plain immature, so expecting anything "adult" from them is a long shot at best.

Dating multiple men and never committing to one does go against their programming. It was not biologically advantageous for a woman to be out having sex with as many men as possible. No, they are "designed" to be monogamous and raise offspring--in any species. Sure, society had muddied the water with dating apps and social media but its' effects are fleeting for women.

In the end, masculinity (for women) and femininity (for men) rule the laws of attraction.
So you’re saying monogamy only applies to women over 30?
 

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Let's apply it inset.

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This was my fourth or fifth girlfriend. And another fine mess i got myself into.

I was playing guitar in a band at the time, and i thought it would be a great idea to have her sing for us.

Mixing business and pleasure further exposed how much of a spoilt brat she was, and she begun really getting on my nerves.

I walked out on her several times. Genuine aloofness - not gameplsying. Each time, she made moves to get me back, until one time she never did. I never heard from her again, and that was a blow to my immature ego at the time.

I eventually bump into her again when i was on Tinder. I swiped right, but we never matched. So that means she swiped left :D

I think 11 years is enough of a sample ;)

Loads of other various interesting examples, but zooming in and personalizing it to make the point. I think this sort of thing gives beta hope (cope) to guys without the life experience to know better, and leads to operating in a very weak silly way.

They most certainly do not always come back, nor does it really matter. And when they do come back, it's often at times that are bloody inconvenient. No-contact generally puts the ball in her court and gives her that power.

The real issue is not being this outcome-dependant, and giving less fvcks. The authentic state is in not being overly bothered about her coming back, that's what attracts her to come back - making such a method completely counter-intuitive :D

The genuine method is to genuinely have one foot out the door in the first place - giving women the proper jerkboy thrills which she craves deep down in her cute evil little heart. Eventually she finally does slam that door on you for good, but being the sensible seasoned chap that you are, you knew that she was going to do that one day anyway.

As @fastlife well points out in this thread, any sort if "no-contact get your ex back" is a refinement of neediness, fear, laziness, (and all things nefarious) rather than making a real attempt at facing it.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/abundance-you-probably-still-care-too-much.245617/
Standards? Everyone on this site talks about the HB9 they bang or date. Now, if this is a HB9 in your standards, the girls I talked with will be a HB1000 lol. She has a weird face.
 

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Nah. I consider her a high 6/low 7.

Not bothered what you consider her, because it's my penis.

Good for you that your speaking to some girls though. Gold star.



Was a bit nuanced example to explain certain dynamics i wanted to highlight. The Tinder test put her into a unique, very simple and sort of pressure free "yes or no" situation that i've not had with an ex before and she chose no.

The set doesn't decieve, it doesn't gaslight, and often it doesn't appeal to our comfort. That's a part of why game is my favourite hobby.

If you want a more simple example? First proper exclusive girlfriend:

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Met her at a house party and instantly clicked.

First sex within confines of a proper relationship, so we experimented with s+m. She later reframes as "abuse" after we split.

This girl was so emotionally invested that she wrote a bloody blog about me. I know, because i had to put up with comebacks, as it was social-circle. Another fine mess, but the emotional investment is unquestionable.

Yet, she still never reached out. And my not taking the initiative made it take much longer to get over her.

That was 13 bloody years ago. How long until your method works "everytime" exactly? :D

I don't know about anyone else, but when i know a set is properly dead, i can move on extremely easy. But this passive-aggressive, no-contact stuff just drags things out.

Wauting on the female to initiate is foolish. I've had them take up to 5 years (!) To do that.

Make the ho say no. I've had girls who's lives i went back into at random, and turned it upside down.

And if some initiation is going to make you upset, then work on that. Because it's very poor inner-game. There was a girl that i was no-contact with in 2015, and i eventually thought fvck it. Reached out, escalated, she ghosted, and i was spiritually free again.
She found someone better. Probably monkey branched. It's part of the list. So is abuse.

Afterall, there are better men out there than us. That is why you eventually came here isn't it? To better yourself?

That is why it's easier for some of us to drop a girl and move on. We know there are always better ones out there.
 
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This doesnt pertain to a chick that you just met and sent first message to.

That's why the post is about they will always come BACK.

If they havent been with you before, they werent there in the first place and cant come back.

If you have went out with a chick more than once, or stuck your d!ck in her, my post applies.

If you think some chick at the supermarket wants to suck your c0ck just because of the way she looked at you, it doesnt apply.

Its not that complex. I could have just dumbed this down for some people and said "Do not double text and dont be a pvssy chasing a pvssy", but most need more fluff on here these days lol.
Glassguy thanks for the awesome post. But i wanted to tell you that chicks you meet off of OLD and just chicks in general, always come back whenever you do any of those things that you mentioned in your original post. It's been working for me. I never had sex with them but they still message first lol and follow up, and ask for my time and to see me. Thanks for the advice
 
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