Now some people would say: 'It's just a commercial, it's not reality.'Oxide said:There is a wave of commercials that are just terrible lately:
How about this, apparently the husband and love are now worthless. it's all about HER
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1OFzIVhROc
All of these, if a bartender acted like that she'd make exactly 0 dollars.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUJ36nFdOyg
It seems like the message is "your husband is stupid, guys are stupid, and you deserve everything" and women are really good at buying into mass media messages like little lemmings so that works out great for that princess syndrome
Love that one!jophil28 said:This is the one that you guys needed during the SuperBowl.
Youtube - "The best beer commercial in the world "
boomerick said:Another type of comercial to watch for is the shmoe guy who by using or having the product ends up with the hot chick(s)......
They always use a guy who seems to be a complete loser....
Currently the Keystone Beer "Keith Stone" commercials are a good example (guy looks like Cooter on the Dukes of Hazzard).....
Capt Morgan's commercials are another shmoe-a-thon......
If you're easily manipulated you're supposed to think "Hmmm...He's way less a man than me, a total loser, and he 's getting the chicks ....hmmm...if I use/have that product I'll get even more/better chicks than he is.".....
When I see these Gems of Marketing I think "If they really think I'm that stupid I guess I'm too stupid to buy what they're selling"....
Bottom line -- If you see a comercial with a less than favorible depiction of men -- A) Don't fall for it, be suspicious of the pitch B) Realize these marketing monkeys think you are an idiot C) Don't buy the product
Again, vote with the wallet....
Over and Out.
It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
It is important to note the social environment you are in so you can plan accordingly. Does a general go to war without first taking into account the terrain?Arts said:Excuse me,
You guys are taking these commercials way too seriously.
Do you not realize that these commercials are either created for humor / to appeal to women?
Furthermore, what are you, the male version of feminists? Bi*ching about unfair treatment of men? Both genders have to deal with this ****. If you bi*ch about it, you're no worse than a feminist.
Perfectly articulated, Boomer.boomerick said:Arts
You are subcribing to the "Man up and take it" social convention that has slowly been screwing American men for the last 40 years.....
If, for instance, as many comercials portrayed a selected minority constantly as stupid buffoons there would be civil unrest, and a public outcry against the companies and culture that created those portrails.......
But us stupid American men have bought into the idea that we are the majority ----the "permanent oppressor of all others" class and that we can't / aren't allowed to be the victim......
We seem to have bought into the "boogieman for everyone else" role.....
Which comes with the "American guys owe everyone an historical debt for our supposed rule of oppression" baggage.....
Since we seem to like feeling superior (although most of us are dumb cart pullers not captians of power) we also seem to buy the being superior and the majority allows anyone to say or do anything about you or to you...
So slowly the "man up and take it" (excuse to do nothing) idea has allowed other interests to litterally flip the historical tables on us (you included) ....
I don't really give a sh!t about any particular product and or company....
What I care about is how upside down things have gotten, how in a land of supposed freedoms and equality things are now so biased against men, and what my son is going to be dealing with in ten years.....
And as far as whining goes....by choosing not to buy products that have offensive advertising I'm taking ACTION however small it may be......
"Man up and take it" is sticking your head in the sand while others happily walk up and f*ck you in the ass.....
I think we've "taken" more than enough.....
Over and Out.
EDIT: As for being no better than a Feminist ......(more shaming).....hmmmm....haven't you noticed.....the Feminists seem to be doing pretty well for themselves lately.....at the expense of you, me , and our sons......
And do you not realize that prior to any of those commercials being shot, several pre-production meetings took place in which the script ,style and tone of the commercial was discussed. It was agreed at those meetings to pander to women's bloated egos by deliberately humiliating men and portraying us as incompetent fools who cannot make sensible buying decisions without a woman's help or supervison.Arts said:Do you not realize that these commercials are either created for humor / to appeal to women?
boomerick said:Arts
You are subcribing to the "Man up and take it" social convention that has slowly been screwing American men for the last 40 years.....
If, for instance, as many comercials portrayed a selected minority constantly as stupid buffoons there would be civil unrest, and a public outcry against the companies and culture that created those portrails.......
Just like a feminist, you are complaining about how society portrays you. Are you comparing men are a selected minority? What do you mean?
And what of the commercials where women are depicted as incompetent, selfish, and shallow, such as that golfing commercial posted above where the wife knocks a ball into her husband's mouth. Do you hear women complaining about it? Yes. Those women are feminists, constantly bi*ching at everything that bothers them, as if society treats them unfairly. You are no better than that.
But us stupid American men have bought into the idea that we are the majority ----the "permanent oppressor of all others" class and that we can't / aren't allowed to be the victim......
So you want to play victim like those female feminists? Ok, have fun.
We seem to have bought into the "boogieman for everyone else" role.....
Which comes with the "American guys owe everyone an historical debt for our supposed rule of oppression" baggage.....
Since we seem to like feeling superior (although most of us are dumb cart pullers not captians of power) we also seem to buy the being superior and the majority allows anyone to say or do anything about you or to you...
Now you are just going off on a tangent and undeliberately choosing which stereotypes to embrace and which to reject.
So slowly the "man up and take it" (excuse to do nothing) idea has allowed other interests to litterally flip the historical tables on us (you included) ....
There is a significant difference between fighting back when something oppresses your freedom, and moaning about untrue stereotypes that exist for virtually every race / gender / religion / group.
I don't really give a sh!t about any particular product and or company....
Me neither.
What I care about is how upside down things have gotten, how in a land of supposed freedoms and equality things are now so biased against men, and what my son is going to be dealing with in ten years.....
And as far as whining goes....by choosing not to buy products that have offensive advertising I'm taking ACTION however small it may be......
"Man up and take it" is sticking your head in the sand while others happily walk up and f*ck you in the ass.....
Fine, don't take it. Instead, rebel against society by throwing a temper tantrum. Just like how some stupid women bi*ch whenever a female is depicted in an unfair manner in a commercial, go ahead and be one of those stupid men who bi*ch whenever a male is depicted unfairly in a commercial.
I think we've "taken" more than enough.....
So what, you're going to stop "enduring" because you see that women don't have to "man up" and take it? Believe me, women endure crap like this just as much as men do. So do all Christians, Muslums, Jews, Buddhists, etc. It's those delusional ones who decide to stop enduring and start bi*ching about imaginary social downfall that are causing a problem.
Over and Out.
EDIT: As for being no better than a Feminist ......(more shaming).....hmmmm....haven't you noticed.....the Feminists seem to be doing pretty well for themselves lately.....at the expense of you, me , and our sons......
Hmm.... if they are doing so well, you should become a female feminist too.
Oh for fu(k's sake. If nobody else sees the delusional battering that this person is spitting out, then I have no place here.Our state weakened fathers abandoned us for our feminist mothers to nueter and turn into societies pack mules.....
I WILL NOT let this be the legacy I bestow on my son.....
He will know that which I was denied.....
Projection.Arts said:And as for the "women with bloated egos", you guys are the ones with the inflated egos, being offended so easily over something like this. A true man wouldn't give a sh*t. Just live your own life.
Let me ask you this. Are you living to your full potential as a man if you stay bitter towards women and towards society over such petty things? I think not...
You know you are all bitter. Just admit it.
No need to get melodramaticArts said:Oh for fu(k's sake. If nobody else sees the delusional battering that this person is spitting out, then I have no place here.