There's Something Intangible

[zekko]

That was my impression.
I kind of "cold reading" angle.

There's something about you....
... you have this quality....
a very rare...
...quality..

You know, I was infatuated with this girl for a couple of weeks back in high school, and then I had the good sense to choose the higher interest option (who was just as pretty, or prettier). So I'm not going to feel too bad. But it's kind of interesting to see all these other schmucks break their hearts over her as she goes through life.

I don't think this girl is really innocent exactly, but that must be some aspect of it, because she seems to draw so many guys in on an emotional, as opposed to sexual, level.

And just to be clear, I wrote this thread to talk about something that was present outside of game, some x factor that exists outside of game, it's not a thread about game (as if women need game anyway).

 

[BillyPilgrim]

You know, I was infatuated with this girl for a couple of weeks back in high school, and then I had the good sense to choose the higher interest option (who was just as pretty, or prettier). So I'm not going to feel too bad. But it's kind of interesting to see all these other schmucks break their hearts over her as she goes through life.

I don't think this girl is really innocent exactly, but that must be some aspect of it, because she seems to draw so many guys in on an emotional, as opposed to sexual, level.

And just to be clear, I wrote this thread to talk about something that was present outside of game, some x factor that exists outside of game, it's not a thread about game (as if women need game anyway).

She has a raised vibration that other people find attractive and also allows her not to need other people.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

The correct adjectives are: earnest, polite, empathic and caring.

The biggest problem for those who possess this is is sharing your light with those who do not deserve it, fortunately they learn to recognize shyte birds quickly, and avoid them.

This. There are times, honestly I’d like to turn it off, or at least down. There are times I don’t want to be paid attention to, times when I’d actually enjoy being invisible. I am not invisible. And it’s not a terrible problem to have, but it must be managed.

It does have something to do with an innocence or at least an openness of being. A pure soul if you will. A boyfriend or two have told me I’m too naive and I yet I don’t see myself as naive at all, when I was young & inexperienced, sure, but not for a long time now, but I don’t hold grudges, I don’t carry fears from one interaction to another, I choose to love even when I know I can be hurt. I have a positive outlook and I am empathic, which can draw dark triad types in certainly…but something draws people in, men and women, and not in a pick up environment. I’ve been stopped repeatedly by men and women who are strangers & been told this as I go about my day-to-day…far too many times for it to be random. When I have on zero make up in sweats or on a subway, so not out and about (although that happens too, but it’s an expectation frankly in nightlife, and less sincere.)

My girlfriends all have commented on this too. Dunno exactly why. It just is (shrugs).

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

And just to be clear, I wrote this thread to talk about something that was present outside of game, some x factor that exists outside of game, it's not a thread about game

Your perception of it was that it was outside of game.

But others perceptions may be that it is something inside of game, a learnable and repeatable behavior.

The idea of something that is outside of human perception is necessarily constrained by the person doing the perceiving.

Your perceptions of others and their behaviors are not in any way objective.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Your perception of it was that it was outside of game.

But others perceptions may be that it is something inside of game, a learnable and repeatable behavior.

The idea of something that is outside of human perception is necessarily constrained by the person doing the perceiving.

Your perceptions of others and their behaviors are not in any way objective.

You're ignoring the possibility it could be something both inside *and* outside of game.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

When you say "outside of game" what are you referring to specifically?

A natural, innate, non-learned behavior or something metaphysical that is "outside" the realm of human behavior?

 

[member162951]

@zekko my girlfriend is like this too. Virtually every person she comes in contact with, no matter where, men and women, get pulled in, and she's doing nothing but talking to them and engaging with them.

Children are the same, I've seen it where we'd be on line at the supermarket and some kid is staring at her and suddenly will approach and hug her! Animals are very drawn to her as well.

She's very pretty but it's more than that. It's her energy, as another poster said, a high vibrational level (i.e vibe), and it's innate. Not forced or manufactured. Every job she's had has been offered to her on the spot during the interview too. I dunno she just has this "thing" about her.

I don't worry about it because she was raised well, with good moral character and integrity, and is relatively low key, not out there seeking validation, she's not even that active on social media anymore.

She is also very humble, never brags on herself pumping herself up referring to herself as high value or top tier like I've seen other women do in varying degrees.

People talk about having game and they may need good game because they don't possess this high level of energy and vibration, that comes naturally from within which is unfortunate for them.

 

[kavi]

These women do have a lot of 'game' so men have to beware of girls like this.

Now the question of 'game' and innateness ie that which can be learnt and that which is innate is complex. Take for instance, the soccier player ronaldo. I think many women have said he is good looking, but the fact is he also good at soccer, something he learnt.

There is just this correlation between being good looking and being talented and skilled that makes it tough to separate the two.

Say it all starts with looks or energy, in that case the individual recognises those characteristics within himself or herself that makes her attractive to others, and therefore understands what power they can have in different scenarios.

Being good looking or having that energy starts from inside and moves out. Body language makes a big difference, and energy. This means holding the frame, like in a movie the frame is on you, so those who can hold the frame can carry the movie others are watching.

For sure this is a woman-specific thing. Being alpha is currently something women understand more than men. Thats because men have not elevated themselves past losing so they are still trying to get up there. In current society men have not overcome women so they have not reached the higher level.

When you reach the higher level all this is pimping. But modern men are far away from that level of knowledge.

 

[Millard Fillmore]

Remember There's Something About Mary?

Or I guess Helen of Troy.

Greene covers this I'm The Art of Seduction.

It's charisma but it comes in many flavors. Some women pick it up as children (though charisma is supposed to come from the gods). Some don't.

 

[zekko]

@zekko my girlfriend is like this too. Virtually every person she comes in contact with, no matter where, men and women, get pulled in, and she's doing nothing but talking to them and engaging with them.

Children are the same, I've seen it where we'd be on line at the supermarket and some kid is staring at her and suddenly will approach and hug her! Animals are very drawn to her as well.

She's very pretty but it's more than that. It's her energy, as another poster said, a high vibrational level (i.e vibe), and it's innate. Not forced or manufactured. Every job she's had has been offered to her on the spot during the interview too. I dunno she just has this "thing" about her.

That sounds more like the Something About Mary girl that @Millard Fillmore mentioned. Everyone fell in love with her. I knew a girl like that, but that isn't this girl. And I don't think she's particularly popular with other women. Just certain guys get sucked into her whatever-it-is. She doesn't strike you as a bright light. Maybe some guys think "This girl is just unnoticeable enough maybe I have a chance with her" and fall into that trap.

These women do have a lot of 'game' so men have to beware of girls like this.

I'm sure most women know how to manipulate men, if they have any tools at all.

Being good looking or having that energy starts from inside and moves out. Body language makes a big difference, and energy. This means holding the frame, like in a movie the frame is on you, so those who can hold the frame can carry the movie others are watching.

Sure, posture, body language, and energy are real things. But so is actually being physically good looking. As for the frame thing, I have never cared for women who seem to be self absorbed or self important, or try to put themselves at the center of attention.

 

[Epicenter]

I had a thread about a pornstar called Miki Sato from Japan. This thread reminds me of her. She has one POV scene where she watches 'you' masturbate. She talks and makes faces. It is quite amazing.

There is one celebrity I like who has that charisma is 'Thalia'. She played in many Latin American soup operas but she is also a very popular singer. Her acting transports into her singing. Interestingly it does not work when she sings in english.

I had one real girl I liked and she had it too. I asked myself what could it be? I thought maybe she like the other examples could raise chore emotions in others. That is she brings the child, women, mother emotion. The switching the contrast makes it so exciting. Like having cold and hot showers.

Shows you the power of the face:

 

[IKO69]

What you are talking about is charisma.

You can have two people who are practically the same in almost every way (let's take twins for example): one could very well have more magnetism than the other. Two people can deliver the same jokes, try to work the room in the same exact manner and one will be wildly received while the other bores everyone to tears.

Usually charismatic people have strong convictions/belief in themselves and they are able to project this.

 

[Slowhandluke]

What you are talking about is charisma.

David Koresh had charisma... so did Pol pot... and Bill Clinton...