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There's nothing WRONG with being a nice guy...but...

squirrels

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Being a "nice guy" does NOT prevent you from getting women.

Being a "nice guy" and assuming that alone, without confidence or passion or any other redeeming masculine traits, will get you women is what prevents you from getting women.

Too many people in the non-seduction community who DON'T have the looks, or the size, or the money, or the personality, or the confidence, or the passion, or the dominance...they take the attitude that, "Well, at LEAST I'm a NICE GUY!!"

99 out of 100 men in this world are "nice guys" when you get down deep enough. But this alone doesn't make you attractive. It's like saying, "well, at least I'm not a parapelegic!" Do women want guys with all four limbs? In most cases, yes. Does just 'having all your arms and legs' generate attraction? FVCK NO!!!

But on the flip-side, women DO want nice guys as boyfriends and eventual mates. Who wants a "mean" wife or husband? LOL

Trying to attract HOT women is like applying to a prestigious university. There are TONS of applicants.

Being "nice" is like a high-school diploma. Of course, if you didn't graduate from high-school, your application is going to get tossed.

But just because you DO have a high-school diploma, that isn't going to get them interested in ACCEPTING you. It just means you made the first cut. You have to have the grades, the extracurriculars, the prestige, the motivation, and the potential for success and leadership to even have a CHANCE of competing with the other high-quality applicants out there.

And yes, then there's the occasional high-talent athlete who can skip by without even the diploma because he generates fame (and revenue) for the school through athletics. Or the kid whose parents have a lot of money and paid to get him in there. Or even the one who's so bright and motivated that high school was a WASTE of his talent and ambition.

And you see them and say, "Hey, I've got a NICE diploma and they DON'T. They've got it all over you. Your diploma alone don't mean sh!t. ;)

I trust the point is made, though. Despite what you read in the bible, being "nice" is NOT a bad thing and being a "nice" person in general is NOT something you should try to AVOID in your life.

But in the end, it does NOT get you women. You're NICE? That's great! So is everyone else. What ELSE have you got? This is where you develop your appearance and attitude and personality to REALLY make a showing to women who are looking you over.

I hope this clears some stuff up for those of you who are anti-nice-guy. Being nice is nice. Being awesome is, well...AWESOME. :D
 

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Originally posted by squirrels
Does just 'having all your arms and legs' generate attraction? FVCK NO!!!
it does the way i use them :p

(btw nice analgy about the high school diploma etc)
 

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agreed.

excellent post and a great analogy. I'll go out on a limb and assume that you are a nice guy with a way with words.
 
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