There is too much toxic male dating advice for younger men these days

[benjamingreat]

Take it with a grain of salt. Red pill theory is what matters most, and the how is game theory.

 

[redskinsfan92]

People have been complaining about the dating since Moses crossed the Red Sea. Our ancestors had to be willing to put their lives at stake and work all day to get and keep a woman. Meanwhile, men today are crying about women because they got left swiped on Tinder or some BS. Dating today is way much easier and less time consuming than prior. I would much rather deal with Tinder than sacrifice my life over some war, disease, or tending a farm to provide protection to a woman.

Stats clearly show dating is easier for the top 10-20% of men. The rest are having a much more difficult time than anyone had in the 20th century or even the early 2000s.

 

[zekko]

Unless your cold approaching and interacting a lot in your day to day life ( which lets be honest the vast majority won't be) it is VERY difficult for the average man to capture the average womans attention

This must be an effect of social media, because when I was in my 20s, I interacted with a lot of women. Bear in mind, I was an introvert, but I went out of my way to be sociable, because I was trying to improve my skills. But it makes me wonder why young people aren't getting together these days.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Tate tells you to stop being a loser, to work your ass off and become the best version of yourself.
He doesnt tell you to learn "Game" and maybe thats why you are pissed.

He tells you to become a man of high value, so women step in line to be with you.
But then, some here rather spend their time with cold approaching 1000 women in a mall to get 5 fvcks out of it by talking themselves into their pvssy, which is okay if you are into that, but doesnt get you anywhere in the long run.

This is the typical Tate cope I see. He gives you all of this toxic insight, but at least he said “don’t be a loser” or “go to the gym”. None of these things are unique pieces of advice at all.

Stats clearly show dating is easier for the top 10-20% of men. The rest are having a much more difficult time than anyone had in the 20th century or even the early 2000s.

Because men have become more pussified than ever before. Imagine having access to thousands of women within your phone and becoming upset because a girl did not respond back vs working on a farm or hard labor from sunrise to sun down to put peasant food on the table for a wife that was probably your neighbor or washed up street rag and always be an old man’s order away from being drafted in to some stupid war. When you tell me men have it so much harder now in dating, this is what I hear. Within a week, I could bang a hot Asian, white girl, black girl, and Latina girl and still live my life comfortably vs be limited to what’s in whatever local vicinity I live in and being treated like a pawn.

 

[corrector]

This is the typical Tate cope I see. He gives you all of this toxic insight, but at least he said “don’t be a loser” or “go to the gym”. None of these things are unique pieces of advice at all.



Because men have become more pussified than ever before. Imagine having access to thousands of women within your phone and becoming upset because a girl did not respond back vs working on a farm or hard labor from sunrise to sun down to put peasant food on the table for a wife that was probably your neighbor or washed up street rag and always be an old man’s order away from being drafted in to some stupid war. When you tell me men have it so much harder now in dating, this is what I hear. Within a week, I could bang a hot Asian, white girl, black girl, and Latina girl and still live my life comfortably vs be limited to what’s in whatever local vicinity I live in and being treated like a pawn.

Your experience does not reflect the vast majority of guys. You are a troll if that is your take on blackpill.

 

[Bigrig]

Andrew Tate and Fresh and Fit have inflated the manosphere with sushi roll advice. Overall crappy toxic advice with a sprinkle of better yourself to make it appear not completely toxic. Dating is not that hard and it should be easier judging the increasing amount of feminized men I am seeing out in public. It seems like the guys with useful content are being shadow banned on YouTube, but I see a lot of FreshandFit and Andrew Tate stuff being spanned everywhere. I really do not think these are good role models for younger man to be taking advice from and I am finding it extremely worrisome.

Not familiar with fresh and fit but agree that Andrew tate is toxic. Whether or not the allegations against him are true (I think they are) he is clearly taking advantage of shock value and desperate guys who will pay for his BS courses. Unfortunately there's not many good male role models out there so people listen to him. Even if he is "alpha" he doesn't seem to be going about it in the right way and is just another attention *****.

 

[redskinsfan92]

This is the typical Tate cope I see. He gives you all of this toxic insight, but at least he said “don’t be a loser” or “go to the gym”. None of these things are unique pieces of advice at all.



Because men have become more pussified than ever before. Imagine having access to thousands of women within your phone and becoming upset because a girl did not respond back vs working on a farm or hard labor from sunrise to sun down to put peasant food on the table for a wife that was probably your neighbor or washed up street rag and always be an old man’s order away from being drafted in to some stupid war. When you tell me men have it so much harder now in dating, this is what I hear. Within a week, I could bang a hot Asian, white girl, black girl, and Latina girl and still live my life comfortably vs be limited to what’s in whatever local vicinity I live in and being treated like a pawn.

You are clearly a troll. The average man isn't frustrated over one woman. The average man is frustrated because no women are responding back. Those men have NONE. There is a larger population of men today unable to get ANY woman than there has been in a longtime.

In 2007 16% of men under 30 were sexless in the past year. That number has risen to 33% now.

 

[bat soup]

They do know how to get pusssssssssssssssssy, though. Here's the proof of that:

 

[CornbreadFed]

You are clearly a troll. The average man isn't frustrated over one woman. The average man is frustrated because no women are responding back. Those men have NONE. There is a larger population of men today unable to get ANY woman than there has been in a longtime.

In 2007 16% of men under 30 were sexless in the past year. That number has risen to 33% now.

Unless you have look like a clicker from the Last of Us, you should have the ability to make yourself at least a 6-7. Also, applying the 80/20 rule or 90/10 in cases, a lot of men are just going to be pathetic based off the law of numbers…same with women

 

[CornbreadFed]

They do know how to get pusssssssssssssssssy, though. Here's the proof of that:

***** ain’t hard to get and it doesn’t correlate with how good of a person you are. The guy I know that has gotten the most action has been divorced twice before 30 and a lot of people do not like him lol.

 

[redskinsfan92]

Unless you have look like a clicker from the Last of Us, you should have the ability to make yourself at least a 6-7. Also, applying the 80/20 rule or 90/10 in cases, a lot of men are just going to be pathetic based off the law of numbers…same with women

Women are mostly ignoring 6s and 7s.

 

[corrector]

Women are mostly ignoring 6s and 7s.

The prevailing advice from credible normies has always been to avoid OLD. That means there are chads/chadlites that are ignorant and projecting themselves to ease their guilt.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Low count new users coming here trying to play like they are in the big leagues. Smdh.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Low count new users coming here trying to play like they are in the big leagues. Smdh.

Members on a dating site get triggered by the most basic self improvement advice, how cringe

 

[HaleyBaron]

Members on a dating site get triggered by the most basic self improvement advice, how cringe

Your advice isn't basic. It's trash.

 

[Luni]

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[SW15]

Stats clearly show dating is easier for the top 10-20% of men. The rest are having a much more difficult time than anyone had in the 20th century or even the early 2000s.

Women are mostly ignoring 6s and 7s.

Agree that women are mostly ignoring 6s and 7s. Outside of the Top 20% (that means an 8+), you're not desirable to women. My photos have been rated in the high 6s and low 7s on anonymous photo rating sites and I've dealt with feeling invisible and ignored for a large part of my history in the mating marketplace.

A guy who is in the 65th percentile (basically a 6.5 overall) either has to get a girlfriend from his social circle or experience a very difficult path of app swiping, Instagram DMing, or approaching strangers.

Male sexlessness stats are up and the typical person (attached or unattached) is having less sex. The bottom 80% are struggling more than when I was 18-25 in the 2000s.

 

[ThisIsSparta]

This is the typical Tate cope I see. He gives you all of this toxic insight, but at least he said “don’t be a loser” or “go to the gym”. None of these things are unique pieces of advice at all.

Well i guess Tate never claimed to "give unique pieces of advice" .... advice doesnt have to be unique to be helpfull.

What exactly do you mean with "toxic" anyway? You remind me of that BBC reporter getting roasted by Musk (i guess he his toxic too).

 

[zekko]

In 2007 16% of men under 30 were sexless in the past year. That number has risen to 33% now.

I was thinking about this. In addition to that statistic, there have been surveys showing that Gen Z identifies as LGBTQ at a rate of 20% (some put it as high as 40%). From my observation, it is mostly women who buy into this movement. That is an astounding increase over past generations. If a bunch of women have suddenly decided they are just going to get with each other, that could explain a large part of that increase in sexless men.

Some of it is more women hooking up with Chad on social media, but if the above stats are true, that would also have to play a big part. You can't have that big of a societal change without it having some unexpected effects.

 

[redskinsfan92]

I was thinking about this. In addition to that statistic, there have been surveys showing that Gen Z identifies as LGBTQ at a rate of 20% (some put it as high as 40%). From my observation, it is mostly women who buy into this movement. That is an astounding increase over past generations. If a bunch of women have suddenly decided they are just going to get with each other, that could explain a large part of that increase in sexless men.

Some of it is more women hooking up with Chad on social media, but if the above stats are true, that would also have to play a big part. You can't have that big of a societal change without it having some unexpected effects.

While it may contribute, it is also clear lots of women are banging the same men. Many of those men are 30+. The combination of all these factors would definitely lead to sich a sharp increase. The one thing hard to ignore though is the iphone released in 2007 putting social media in one's hand.

I personally think that also played a role in an increase of lgbt social contagion. Some may not think it's a social contagion, but look no further than the tics phenomenon.