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There is Power in Good Dressing...Skirtchaser Was Right

Frank2500

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I never had a doubt about this, since I've generally been a stylish person. However, last Friday, I did a little experiment. I went to the gym dressed in a pair of Kenneth Cole dress pants with leather shoes and a matching T-shirt and watch, in terms of color. It felt as if I had an invisible magnet on myself. From the moment I walked in, all of the male and female employees, the female employee at the juice bar, female gym members who suddenly were seeing me in a different light, all turned around as if unable to take their eyes of me. I don't know if it's because I generally dress very casual at the gym that perhaps some of them began to sort of perceive me as if I were a different person of some sort. Of course, the personal trainers who for some reason just love to hate on me and never give me a break at that gym-two of them in particular-were staring at me with frowns from a distance each time I walked by, instead of focusing on the members they were working with. I bet they spent quite some considerable time gossiping about me as they often do.


Last night, I watched one of Joel Osteen, the popular Reverend's sermons, on TV. The guy is great and I could very well relate to his message last night. He said that in life, we should always keep in mind that not everyone is going to like us no matter how kind, nice, friendly and agreeable we try to be. Most of the time, he continued, these people who gossip about others have serious issues with themselves on the inside. They are naturally ungrateful and envious people and constantly seek out individuals to whom they can direct those negative emotions they have inside of them. People will criticize you no matter what you do or don't do. Hence, trying to make everyone like you is not only a waste of time, but you will never achieve happiness in the process. In fact, he said, people who go out of their way to please others often get criticized the most and this weighs down upon them and affects their self-esteem significantly.
 

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Kenneth Cole dress pants with leather shoes and a matching T-shirt

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=132730

skirtChaser said:
designer t shirt?.......is that a oscar de la-hanes? whatever........t-shirts=sports

going out in a t-shirt?.......t-shirt=wife beater. ....t-shirts are lame....I wouldn't even wear a t- shirt on a golf course, I'd wear a polo shirt any day over a t-shirt............geez.....whats the obsession with t-shirts?..........geez...I can't believe this horse 5hit!....whatever

another hiibilly

He was not right about everything.
 

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As much as I hate to agree with SC, he was probably right about the t-shirt too. Unless it's a very relaxed atmosphere t-shirts belong UNDER your other real shirt. I'd bet F2500 would get even BETTER results with a real shirt on.
 

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Frank's a body builder; the t-shirt plays to his strong point, which is physique. I am no body builder but still look good in tighter clothes. And by 't-shirt,' I am meaning short-sleeve and collarless. That includes a lot of designer clothing that might not be a 't-shirt' by everyone's definition.
 

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Re:

The T-shirt I wore was a black T-shirt. It wasn't tight, but it fit and showed my physique (arms and chest) very well. My shoes, belt and watch were black, and the pants were dark brown.
 

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I think there is power in dressing good, or at least it can make a good statement for some about you.

Like in my original post, I dressed like I wanted to own the place, and dressed like I felt comfortable. Though I wear other attire at work, I am me in nicer clothes. Once school is done, i'm out in the business world running my own business, and I dress like it too. I've always felt better, and can show off my older side (since looks wise I can pass for 16).

And like I said, people noticed. The girl I work with noticed, and her boyfriend definitely noticed. Chump vs non-chump. I was intimidating by the way I looked, and carried myself, and I didnt even have to say a word to the guy. Her...well, she seemed to get all depressed later that night. Was it cause I was talking to many girls and ignoring her, or was it she felt embarrassed?

And yes, I like that girl, but I made it clear by my presentation who I really am. Now I think she feels like i'm out of reach probably. After I brought my chump boyfriend, and he obliterated him, why would he bother with me anymore? I saw it in her eyes, and her body language.

So it may not seem like it can do much, but in my case it did. It took everyones mind out of the work place and showed them the real me.

I wasn't expecting all of what happened from the clothes, but it did. And dressing how I did was the right way to do it. I'm glad I wasn't like everyone else, and I am glad I didnt show up dressed like the girl I work withs boyfriend. I would have had someone :kick: if I did. lol
 

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It's interesting you mention this. I've recently started to actually dial down the way I dress, at least on dates. That, and thanks to some good advice I've gotten on that around here (more on that later), I think has really helped my game. I am trying to dress a bit more on the 'fun' side than I do 'business casual Friday' side. I think there's a fine line, and it's different for everyone.
 

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Yes, a nice $70 shirt that was on sale in the summer for $17 Though I paid $17 it was a $70 fitting shirt.

I always look for sales like this. You know where to look, you can find great prices. Shirts that are normally priced that high for half. I got a belt and wallet the same way. 50% off one day from 8am-1pm.

Its all about shopping wisely. Sometimes its older styles, but so what. Who knows that it was last years color besides the manufacturer? I went to Eddie Bauer outlet months ago and bought TONS of winter stuff in the summer.

$250 total, and I spent $50 or so and got 8 shirts or so and a wool jacket. Some things were 70% off.
 

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Man, I love the white-T, Jeans, Leather Jacket combo (with maybe some sketchers or K-Swiss shoes). Women eat that s*** up.

I saw a poll somewhere at MSN once, where women were to choose from 1 of 5 outfits they found sexiest. Jeans/white T-shirt won by a landslide. (Seriously, it was over 80% for that one, and less than 20% divied amongst the other 4 choices)
 

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azanon said:
I saw a poll somewhere at MSN once, where women were to choose ....
Are we asking women what they like and believing it now? LOL.
 

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I saw one of the girls I worked with today, and she goes... yeah he was at the party, all pimped out, looking good. :)

Just one of our employees, and not even one i'm trying to pick up. See, people notice, even when they get drunk or go to bed at 7am and party. It STUCK OUT.

Funny thing too, is that when I got to work today, someone said... I heard you left the party early all pissed. :confused:

Who said that I asked. Then he told me, and I was like... Ahhh... The girl with the boyfriend wanted drama. I didnt leave early, and I wasnt pissed.

She must have not seen me then left and figured I was gone. I had an awesome night.

But again... Someone was paying attention, or at least thought about me. See, girls think about you regardless.

I wasn't pissed, I just didnt talk to her, and talked to the other ladies. :up:

Think that's why she said what she said.
 

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They also see SUCCESS or POTENTIAL in a guy who cares about his clothes.
 

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If there is power in good dressing and good looks, them why am I constantly seeing the majority of hot women with guys who are ugly and look like dirtbags? My observations have fed me the truth in the mating game. The matrix tells you if you're a good looking guy and don't look like a dirtbag, you'll have the ladies purring at you. That's why we've come here right?

However, it is true that your looks can help you out, but that's only sometimes, most of the time you'll go unnoticed by women if you're good looking and dress decent..that's why having good game is so essential and it is stressed on sites like this...that's why you need to cold approach.

And even when your looks do get you in the door, it doesn't mean crap, because you need good game to back it up, otherwise you're tossed and will be jacking off to her instead.
 

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skirtChaser said:
wearing nice clothes and looking stylish isn't about trying to please everybody, and women don't see it that way. they see it as someone who is concerned about their apperance and that's the way they take it. its a common ground with women, its something you have in common due to all the effort they put into it. women have actually had me go shopping with them and pick out outfits for them, take me out to lunch afterwards. if a guy is detailed, they see him as probably having a stylish house and well detailed, they see it as probably having a stylish car and detailed. they see you as a provider, i'll show them the money, oh yeah, they can see it. but it doesn't mean they have the magical vigina that will give them access to it. I'm not looking for a LTR so I guess it is superficial. I'm not here for a long time, I'm here for a GOOD TIME!
And I think that's how it comes off to girls. At least some. We never know what they think, but we can try.

In my case, being detailed got across the message to the ladies, and definitely the one I work with how had her man there. When he looked like he came out of an X-games competition, I think she kind of cringed. Dude has probably never worn a tie in his life, or a pair of black socks for that matter.

Can it make a statement and tell a lot about a person?

Me:

College degree in May (little slower cause I moved and owned a business to get real life experience)

Own a bunch of stocks and a 401k

Will have business #2 up and going by May hopefully. (So CEO)


Obviously just the tip of the iceberg.

Him:

Year 2 in college and has no idea what he wants to do

Probably doesn't even know what a stock is.

Not sure he even has a job

Now its a sad thing, but I got the vibe from him as SOON as I saw him with his black eye and how he was dressed. Not that EVERYONE will be like that, but my thoughts were right on the guy as I spoke with him for a sec. Yeah i'm a sophomore and I asked what he was getting a degree in, and he said... I dont know yet. Ok this semester is over in a month and 2 weeks, and after May he'll be a junior assuming he is going full time, and i'm not so sure he is.

I could just tell by the way he was dressed, he had less than most going for him.

Hopefully his girlfriend realizes this soon if she want a great life for herself which she told me she wants. I think she got a dose of reality last week.

All I can say is never underestimate what goes on just by the way you dress. Sometimes its EXACTLY as it appears, while you may be that guy in a t-shirt with the million dollars (though rare)

And not that everyone who dresses like they came out of the X-games is like him, but he was a poser. :D
 

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Of course it's got to be appropriate. Wear a suit to a Habitat for Humanity volunteer project and you'll look like a chump. Neat, upmarket and appropriate seems to work. Also I think it's more about first impressions and setting expectations, if you're taking her out on a your Nth date to the zoo you don't need to dress like you're going to the opera.

In any case it's good that 2500 has found a look that's working for him.
 

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edger said:
If there is power in good dressing and good looks, them why am I constantly seeing the majority of hot women with guys who are ugly and look like dirtbags? My observations have fed me the truth in the mating game. The matrix tells you if you're a good looking guy and don't look like a dirtbag, you'll have the ladies purring at you. That's why we've come here right?

However, it is true that your looks can help you out, but that's only sometimes, most of the time you'll go unnoticed by women if you're good looking and dress decent..that's why having good game is so essential and it is stressed on sites like this...that's why you need to cold approach.

And even when your looks do get you in the door, it doesn't mean crap, because you need good game to back it up, otherwise you're tossed and will be jacking off to her instead.

I can say first hand by seeing this, it happens. You also have to have game. Or sometimes you just seem like your that bad boy and you get girls.

The girl I work with who has the boyfriend I was talking about, was exactly what you are saying. I sit there and go... WTF :confused:

But again, she's really young, and he's a tad older, so maybe she thinks its cool for the time being. Who the F knows, and it does bug me sometimes.

I'm thinking... Get rid of the dude, but at the same time i'm saying... You're still growing up.

Some its a growing up issue, and to some, there is something else.

Who knows. If we could figure girls out, we wouldn't be on this forum :yes:
 
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