There is no way for a grown man to be as hot as a young girl.

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I am already 30. I will only continue to age. I can definitely work on finances, maturity, and things like that. But if young girls already think I'm too old or not attractive enough, that situation is not going to improve.

They will probably go for guys their own age. We all know that money helps, but that's not really "game" at all.
Dude, your 30's is where it's at. Honestly, the second you stop giving a fvck, your whole life will change and you will ask yourself why you have lived any other way. I dreaded turning 30 and was almost depressed about it for quite a will. I just flipped the switch and started giving no fvcks at all and have never looked back. I can recall two women over 26 that I've dated in the last 9 years. I'll be 40 in July of next year and two of the last 4 or 5 numbers I've closed are 20 and 23. I'm optimistic that my 40's will be even better through and through.
 
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Dude, your 30's is where it's at. Honestly, the second you stop giving a fvck, your whole life will change and you will ask yourself why you have lived any other way. I dreaded turning 30 and was almost depressed about it for quite a will. I just flipped the switch and started giving no fvcks at all and have never looked back. I can recall two women over 26 that I've dated in the last 9 years. I'll be 40 in July of next year and two of the last 4 or 5 numbers I've closed are 20 and 23. I'm optimistic that my 40's will be even better through and through.
Stop giving a fvck about what?
 
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Stop giving a fvck about what?
About the fear of how you will be perceived by doing or saying, whatever it is you feel like doing or saying on a whim. Do you think the girls lip syncing stupid hip-hop songs give two chits about how they are perceived? No, they are having fun, regardless of who thinks it's stupid. Their world keeps on spinning, while yours is stuck on how stupid you think it is. Most people go to clubs and bars to do stupid chit and let loose in the first place.
 
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About the fear of how you will be perceived by doing or saying, whatever it is you feel like doing or saying on a whim. Do you think the girls lip syncing stupid hip-hop songs give two chits about how they are perceived? No, they are having fun, regardless of who thinks it's stupid. Their world keeps on spinning, while yours is stuck on how stupid you think it is. Most people go to clubs and bars to do stupid chit and let loose in the first place.
So should I walk up to them and tell them how stupid I think (know) they are?

Maybe punch one in the face if she says something that phases me off?
 

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So should I walk up to them and tell them how stupid I think (know) they are?
Do it. Maybe, at the very least, you will piss one of them off bad enough that they will be forthright about why they aren't fvcking with you and you will get something out of it. Nobody likes a stick up the a$$. People go to those places to cut loose and do stupid chit. Maybe, frequent different spots, where it's less likely to see people doing stupid chit.
Maybe punch one in the face if she says something that phases me off?
Be realistic.
 
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Do it. Maybe, at the very least, you will piss one of them off bad enough that they will be forthright about why they aren't fvcking with you and you will get something out of it. Nobody likes a stick up the a$$. People go to those places to cut loose and do stupid chit. Maybe, frequent different spots, where it's less likely to see people doing stupid chit.

Be realistic.
They tell me all the time. They tell me I'm too ugly. This is online. I guess I'm just too ugly? I hear this several times per week, and it's most likely what every girl that doesn't respond is thinking.

I don't deserve to be treated like this.

So I should just sit at home for the rest of my life because there's no point? If girls thought I was good looking enough to fvck, they would tell me so. But they don't. I'm not getting better looking, I'm getting older. I've gone out to bars about 10,000 times in the past 3 years.

My whole motivation to flip houses and make money was to be a millionaire playboy, but even if I do make the money, it won't get me the girls because it doesn't improve my looks. I can afford prostitutes as it is.

Meanwhile, they fvck scumbags and broke idiots all the time.
 

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They tell me all the time. They tell me I'm too ugly. This is online. I guess I'm just too ugly? I hear this several times per week, and it's most likely what every girl that doesn't respond is thinking.

I don't deserve to be treated like this.

So I should just sit at home for the rest of my life because there's no point? If girls thought I was good looking enough to fvck, they would tell me so. But they don't. I'm not getting better looking, I'm getting older. I've gone out to bars about 10,000 times in the past 3 years.

My whole motivation to flip houses and make money was to be a millionaire playboy, but even if I do make the money, it won't get me the girls because it doesn't improve my looks. I can afford prostitutes as it is.

Meanwhile, they fvck scumbags and broke idiots all the time.
Bro, snap out of it. You've posted pics before of yourself here. Every reply I read was positive. What are you saying to them, before they tell you this?
 
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Bro, snap out of it. You've posted pics before of yourself here. Every reply I read was positive. What are you saying to them, before they tell you this?
Well last time...

I asked her if she wanted to have sex for money (on SA), she said I couldn't afford her and called me "boo" which I hate being called names like that, then I said I could if I wanted to but that I was worth more than her anyway...

So she called me a broke ugly loser.
 

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Well last time...

I asked her if she wanted to have sex for money (on SA), she said I couldn't afford her and called me "boo" which I hate being called names like that, then I said I could if I wanted to but that I was worth more than her anyway...

So she called me a broke ugly loser.
CTFU! Yea, I know I said say whatever you want before, but there's a difference between what I meant and being directly offensive to someone else. You have to know that she was being reactive and responding out of spite right?
 
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CTFU! Yea, I know I said say whatever you want before, but there's a difference between what I meant and being directly offensive to someone else. You have to know that she was being reactive and responding out of spite right?
No I thought she thought that the whole time and just didn't want to tell me until I pissed her off enough to get the truth out of her.

If it's truthfully my personality, that's great and I have no problem with that. That's at least something I can work on if I choose to.

I was thinking that I was too hideously ugly to even get my foot in the door.
 

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You've got to stop thinking like this man. Undoubtedly, she said what she said out of spite. Do you feel like you are undeserving of these women or that you are actually unattractive? You are shooting yourself in the foot with this type of thinking.
 
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You've got to stop thinking like this man. Undoubtedly, she said what she said out of spite. Do you feel like you are undeserving of these women or that you are actually unattractive? You are shooting yourself in the foot with this type of thinking.
Well it is Seeking Arrangement, so asking for sex isn't a strange request.

Do I "deserve" to pay someone for sex? I'm not sure how to answer that.
 

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Well it is Seeking Arrangement, so asking for sex isn't a strange request.

Do I "deserve" to pay someone for sex? I'm not sure how to answer that.
Personally, I would take the focus off women for awhile, and onto yourself. Seeking Arrangement isn't a place where I'd expect necessarily 'nice' girls either. Realize they're probably jaded as ****, since they are deliberately putting their bodies or relationships out there for money. This mean a lot more to a woman to a man.

I recommend getting a social hobby and getting some female friends that you can simply talk with. Reestablish what the normal kind of girl is. Then you may realize 'Hey, maybe those girls on SA are just jaded and distorted'. Especially on online interaction - they don't know you at all, so they can get as nasty as they want to.
 

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Men and women are different, we are attracted to different things.

Women are attracted to good looks, but this is not something they fall for. If you are a good looking loser as a man, you'll pull chicks that just want to fvck you, but that is it. If that is all you want in life, then you SHOULD worry about your looks.
 

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My thoughts are women are generally comfortable with around a 10 year age difference (you being older). After that.. you need to have more and more unique VALUE for them to consider you.
I've always been of the opinion that age doesn't matter, but when you start to get into the extremes obviously it comes into effect. 10 years sounds as good as any number. Statistically, I believe women go for men four years older.

My girlfriend is 15 years younger than I am, but I met her when I was 42. I think that as long as you have value and have taken care of yourself, a guy in his 40s can date basically anyone. But at 57 (as I am), I have to admit the age is probably a consideration.
 

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Richard you should start going to college football games. I was tailgating with my friends today and I had all these drunk college girls walking up to me and talking to me.
 
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Richard you should start going to college football games. I was tailgating with my friends today and I had all these drunk college girls walking up to me and talking to me.
That might work.

Unfortunately, I don't have friends and am trespassed from the local university campus due to some cyberstalking incidents that happened years ago. Not sure if their stadium is on the campus.
 
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