There has been much debate.....

[Slickster]

There has been a lot of debate going on around here about pursuing chicks with boyfriends and chicks who cheat. Whether its for a relationship or just sex.

Some say go for it. Some say Next.

STR8UP's post "Yes good girls do cheat" has turned into a monster so I know this has all been discussed to death but I have another spin on this and I want to know what you guys think?

The question "What is a DJ?" could be answered in many different ways but I think the one universal constant answer is:

"A DJ is someone who is dedicated to improving his life and minimalizing his flaws"

Well if this is true then why would a true DJ waste his time with a women who he knows is cheating on her boyfriend. She may be a good person at heart but she's showing you she's capable of being a bad person too. Last time I checked deceitfulness, dishonesty, and adultery were negative traits.

I'm sure to many here, sticking your d*ck into some chick is the end all be all of the universe. But think about it.

If a DJ is dedicated to improving his life then doesn't that include improving the quality of women (and people) he associates with?

Shouldn't DJ's being sticking to higher ground and giving these cheating b*tches what they deserve? Nothing.

 

[Frosty]

The question "What is a DJ?" could be answered in many different ways but I think the one universal constant answer is: "A DJ is someone who is dedicated to improving his life and minimalizing his flaws"

Well, we would first need to all agree on the "universal constant" before we can even begin to debate your topic.

The DJ "universal constant" to me is improving your game and dating skills so you can get more freaks in your life, period. Whether they are married, single, divorced, widowed or whatever is besides the point.

Now, putting that aside, you can debate the ethics of messing around with married women.

 

[Slickster]

Originally posted by Frosty
Well, we would first need to all agree on the "universal constant" before we can even begin to debate your topic.

The DJ "universal constant" to me is improving your game and dating skills so you can get more freaks in your life, period. Whether they are married, single, divorced or whatever is besides the point.

Now, putting that aside, you can debate the ethics of messing around with married women.

Sure Frosty. But I'm sure that many people here disagree with you . Being a DJ has alot more to it than just having "game" or "dating skills"

Sounds like you're talking about being a Player.

 

[Frosty]

Being a DJ has alot more to it than just having "game" or "dating skills"

Of course it does. I thought we were discussing the universal constant and you did say, " 'What is a DJ?' could be answered in many different ways."



Just as many people would probably disagree with my universal constant they will disagree with yours also, Slick, as demonstrated in my above post. That is my whole point.

The ethics of of messing around with married women is besides the point of what it is to improve your dating life. Messing around with married people is something that someone must wrestle with themselves in their own personal life.

You can teach someone to learn to catch many fish. Afterwards, what lake he fishes in is his business. Lets not get self-righteous around here.

Personally, I don't believe in messing around with married women but I am not going to point the finger at someone who does.

 

[myfriendblu]

Yo Slickster!
Hey, lets forget the moral/ethical issues. While improving ones life and being a better person is goal number one, I would say goal number two, at a CLOSE SECOND, is that a DJ is about the easiest and hassle free ways of getting poon.

With that being said, trying to hook up with a female aready entangled in the mess of a relationship that has issues, is NOT the easiest way from point A to point B. A DJ's goal is to get laid with spending as little time/drama/energy as necessary. Trying to score with attenting whor ing females looking to destroy there own relationship is not being DJ...In fact, its AN AFC MOVE. Bottom line.

 

[Trapspringer]

Everyone will give their on defintion or opinion what it is to be a DJ. If there are 2000 members on this board, most likely all of their definitions will vary from one or another.

All I know is that when I read the Bible and the various articles on sosuave.com, they are providing me with advice on how to get the girl. They don't discuss much about the guidelines on the girl's status. What I mostly read about is how many days to wait to call, how often I should approach chicks, how long to stay on the phone, where to take her on a date, how to get her in bed, when I should touch her, blah blah blah. I believe the ethical stuff is left out of the bible for a reason.

Who really cares about what a single person's definition is on what it is to be a DJ. Most of us agree on what it takes to get the woman and this is how we stay focused.

Going back and forth on what is to be a DJ is trivial. What is valuable is going back and forth on what we can do to get the woman we want.

Trying to score with attenting whor ing females looking to destroy there own relationship is not being DJ...In fact, its AN AFC MOVE. Bottom line.

see this is a good example. I thought an AFC was someone who couldn't get laid in a W-ore house with a fistfull of hundred dollar bills, a chronic masturbater, has oneitis for rosy palms, ie,. someone who isn't getting laid. According to the definition above, an AFC is also someone who behaves unethically.

Guys, this back and forth debate will get us nowhere. That is why I think we should just concentrate on getting the girl or nexting her when she acts funny.

 

[Kodiac]

Don Juan - from the dictionary - thus universal ;
[After Don Juan, legendary 14th-century Spanish nobleman and libertine.]

1. A libertine; a profligate. (see below for meanings)
2. A man who is an obsessive seducer of women.
n: A successful womanizer (after a profligate Spanish nobleman)

Libertin - One free from restraint; one who acts according to his impulses and desires; now, specifically, one who gives rein to lust; a rake; a debauchee.

Profligate - Recklessly wasteful; wildly extravagant.

Interesting

 

[billyjames]

Fvck me. I came here a crying puss(Still crying)never believing I am a Don Juan,But after those def's.,I fit it to a tee.

Ive have secured married before.It was effortless.But,only once.Perhaps situational.But,I do need a challange.
No fun in easy for me,except a one time squirt,when Im drunk and stupid.

Anyone,who read my first post,nows my current situation.Sucks to be me.This is what inspire,s me.I will have it.She will be mine.That is my mission.I will succeed.I will achieve.Her love,will belong to me.
And,I will have the power!

After which,what I do will be up to me.

Current sit rep for any follower:
1:Have not called her
2:Have lined up 3 probables,one's a positive.
3:I will follow my own rules.
4:Have not seen her.
5:One of those 3 probables are
secured tomarrow.
6:Have not called her.

BillyJames

 

[Ar7]

The way I see it, being a DJ is just a stage that we go through or choose to remain forever (eg: players).

Stage one: AFC realization

Stage two: The DJ stage, heavily involved at the DJ workshop, theory and practical (fulfilling all your desiers along the way). Stage two is mostly concentrated around improving yourself for the benifit of bedding as many women as possible. Players are those that choose to remain at stage two. Main focus here is sex..sex.. and more sex. The more they get the more they want, take take and more take.

Stage three: You have the skills and the knowledge but you also have total control over your skills. Unlike Stage two/DJ stage/Player stage the skill does not controll you, you are the one in control. Enlightened beings as you may call it, main focus at this stage is seeking true happiness. Some take the path of true love and marriage, some a path of a philosopher. Nevertheless these men are morally in check and believe in give and take is the order of all things that ultimately leads to true happiness.

 

[Ar7]

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[billyjames]

She will be mine.I gave-now I take!

 

[myfriendblu]

Originally posted by Trapspringer


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Going back and forth on what is to be a DJ is trivial. What is valuable is going back and forth on what we can do to get the woman we want.




see this is a good example. I thought an AFC was someone who couldn't get laid in a W-ore house with a fistfull of hundred dollar bills, a chronic masturbater, has oneitis for rosy palms, ie,. someone who isn't getting laid. According to the definition above, an AFC is also someone who behaves unethically.

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Dude, go re-read my post before you yap. I said "forget the moral/ethical issues". Ethics has nothing whatsoever to do with being a DJ. I NEVER said it did.

 

[Trapspringer]

Dude, go re-read my post before you yap. I said "forget the moral/ethical issues". Ethics has nothing whatsoever to do with being a DJ. I NEVER said it did.

Sure but you ended your whole post with this contradiction:

Trying to score with attenting whor ing females looking to destroy there own relationship is not being DJ...In fact, its AN AFC MOVE. Bottom line.

Saying "forget the moral/ethical issues" and then actually trying to disguise an addition to the ethical debate by calling it an "AFC MOVE" is a failed coverup in adding your own view to a debate that my post was seeking to end.

Again, I suggest that we move away from this topic. It will get us about as far as debating the existence of God; No one will be proven true but almost everyone will walk away with the views they entered the whole debate with.

That is my final say on the subject. Debate all you want, man.

 

[myfriendblu]

Originally posted by Trapspringer

Saying "forget the moral/ethical issues" and then actually trying to disguise an addition to the ethical debate by calling it an "AFC MOVE" is a failed coverup in adding your own view to a debate that my post was seeking to end.

What ethical debate? An AFC move is an AFC move. I call em like I see em. Any, and i do mean ANY, DJ on this site whole - heartedly agrees with me that chasing after females already engaged in some drama filled relationship is AFC. Bottom line, its a black-white issue here that has nothing t do with ethics. Sure, its an opinion of mine, but its also an opinion that an overwhelming majority of the DJ's have. I never brought up religion(I don't believe in it so you won't hear me discussing it EVER) and ethics/morals have NOTHING to do with becomming a DJ.

 

[Slickster]

Originally posted by myfriendblu
Any, and i do mean ANY, DJ on this site whole - heartedly agrees with me that chasing after females already engaged in some drama filled relationship is AFC. Bottom line, its a black-white issue here that has nothing t do with ethics. Sure, its an opinion of mine, but its also an opinion that an overwhelming majority of the DJ's have. I never brought up religion(I don't believe in it so you won't hear me discussing it EVER) and ethics/morals have NOTHING to do with becomming a DJ.

Exactly! What I would have said. Good reply.

 

[XANEUS]

My last 3 GFs all had boyfriends when I met them. Most any worthwhile girl will. And just so you are aware of it, ALL girls will cheat under the right conditions.

 

[Slickster]

Originally posted by XANEUS
My last 3 GFs all had boyfriends when I met them. Most any worthwhile girl will. And just so you are aware of it, ALL girls will cheat under the right conditions.

Why didn't those last three relationships work for you.

Did any of them cheat on you with another guy?

 

[becker]

Good question, I'd like to know that too, Xaneus, since that is such a popular reason around here that people give for not going after girls w/ BFs. I guess the answer would depend some on how much of a better catch you are than the prior BF.

 

[XANEUS]

One was mutual and we're still friends.

One I broke up with and we're still friends.

One I'm still with.

To the best of my knowledge none of them ever cheated on me.


WOMEN ARE LIKE MONKEYS... THEY SWING FROM TREE TO TREE NEVER LETTING GO OF ONE BRANCH UNTIL THEY HAVE LATCHED ONTO ANOTHER.

Most girls are terrified of being without a boyfriend. So they may be ready to leave, but they won't until they have a reason to.

 

[becker]

How did you get the girl to the point where she felt she could securely leave the old BF for you? Did you hang out with her much?