There are times when it's OK to cheat

[BlueAlpha1]

Since the beginning of time, men have used attention to get sex. Since the same beginning, women have used sex to get attention. Each sex holds one valuable commodity over the other, and in healthy relationships they are traded even handedly.

Despite feminist propaganda that holds a man is not "owed sex" and that it is "her body", by the same standard no woman is "owed" any sort of attention or emotional support. If your wife or girlfriend denied you sex the last time you saw her, it is perfectly reasonable to deny her a hello kiss the next time you see her or a listening ear the next time she has a problem.

Low range estimates state that men produce 7-8x the testosterone/libido as the average women, so depriving a man sex any more than extremely rarely is akin to neglect.

When a woman goes to her friends and says "he's not paying any attention to me, I don't know what to do", no woman on the planet has ever said "stay with him, you can't do any better." It is some variation of "you go girl!" and they encourage her to meet her needs elsewhere.

Whether or not you should break up with a neglectful girl before satisfying your needs elsewhere is a different question that involves another debate about lying and secrecy, but partaking in the act itself is really nothing to be ashamed of and is no worse than a woman texting another man behind your back because you've been too aloof.

 

[thatfeel]

The whole debacle of morality and ethics can be avoided by just abdtaining from committed relationships. Then you won't ever be cheating.

 

[Tictac]

Since the beginning of time, men have used attention to get sex. Since the same beginning, women have used sex to get attention. Each sex holds one valuable commodity over the other, and in healthy relationships they are traded even handedly.

Despite feminist propaganda that holds a man is not "owed sex" and that it is "her body", by the same standard no woman is "owed" any sort of attention or emotional support. If your wife or girlfriend denied you sex the last time you saw her, it is perfectly reasonable to deny her a hello kiss the next time you see her or a listening ear the next time she has a problem.

Low range estimates state that men produce 7-8x the testosterone/libido as the average women, so depriving a man sex any more than extremely rarely is akin to neglect.

When a woman goes to her friends and says "he's not paying any attention to me, I don't know what to do", no woman on the planet has ever said "stay with him, you can't do any better." It is some variation of "you go girl!" and they encourage her to meet her needs elsewhere.

Whether or not you should break up with a neglectful girl before satisfying your needs elsewhere is a different question that involves another debate about lying and secrecy, but partaking in the act itself is really nothing to be ashamed of and is no worse than a woman texting another man behind your back because you've been too aloof.

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This is a pantload. What kind of p*ssy can't keep his own word, even to himself much less anyone else? You can make excuses all day and all night. There is no excuse ever for 'cheating'.

If you want to be in a committed relationship - be in a committed relationship. If you don't want to be in a committed relationship - don't be in a committed relationship.

To lie about it because women might cheat is the most pathetic thing I have ever read on SS. It shows you to be a liar and a hypocrite and completely controlled by what a woman might do.

 

[Reservoir Dog]

When a woman goes to her friends and says "he's not paying any attention to me, I don't know what to do", no woman on the planet has ever said "stay with him, you can't do any better." .

Clearly you've never met my mother. This is exactly the type of thing she would say. Isn't it time we stopped with the generalizations? You would be best suited for this 'war' if you equipped yourself with actual knowledge rather than these unfounded opinions.

 

[om1xr]

so you are trying to justify and rationalize cheating?

come on man! just own your decisions and do whatever you want but don't try to rationalize that you can't control your own decisions when you are cheating. if you are cheating then you are cheating and you should take responsibility for it and of course that's if you are in a committed/exclusive relationship and the two parties have agreed on commitment. otherwise you are just a bunch of low life scums!

 

[Lozboss]

Since the beginning of time, men have used attention to get sex. Since the same beginning, women have used sex to get attention. Each sex holds one valuable commodity over the other, and in healthy relationships they are traded even handedly.

1. Despite feminist propaganda that holds a man is not "owed sex" and that it is "her body", by the same standard no woman is "owed" any sort of attention or emotional support. If your wife or girlfriend denied you sex the last time you saw her, it is perfectly reasonable to deny her a hello kiss the next time you see her or a listening ear the next time she has a problem.



2. but partaking in the act itself is really nothing to be ashamed of and is no worse than a woman texting another man behind your back because you've been too aloof.

1. Agree 100%. Great point and I believe men should first be covert and if asked openly be matter of fact and honest that if they don't step up to the mark then they can expect a mirrored treatment.

2. No. Cheating is never right. We as DJs stand as DJs because of our status above the hoes we bang because we have INTEGRITY.

 

[Serenity]

There's no justification to cheat, any apparently good reason for that is a rationalization. That's the moral standard I keep myself to, I wouldn't like being cheated on for whatever reason and so I would go far in not doing it myself. My main reason for this is that it damages trust, an extremely valuable asset in a world of liars. I would rather end the relationship than to cheat, if it's easy to justify cheating you can be sure the relationship is fvcked anyways.

Sex deprivation is as neglectful as attention deprivation. In a couple this can potentially create a destructive cycle if not one or both parts are able to notice the pattern and proactively choose another response. What may happen is that you start giving her less attention, in turn she starts giving less sex, you then give her even less attention as punishment because she won't give you sex and so this cycle goes until one of you wake the fvck up. If this goes for long enough the one who wakes up ends it, but it could have been saved with simple communication if it's caught early on.

Cheating is cowardice because you don't have the balls to leave her. If she neglects you, why are you with her? You don't nescessarily have to frame it from her perspective, it's harmful for you to keep bad people around and that's a purely selfish reason. Also if you're confident you can get more pvssy then you're at least confident enough to have no reason to keep such a woman. So cheating just harms yourself as it points out how much confidence you lack. Whoever you cheat with will never really trust you either because she knows you think it's ok to cheat, sooner or later she WILL realize that you might do it to her.

So cheating as far as I know is to trade trust, positive social reputation (which gets the women) and all the good things that comes with it for a quick and dirty fvck. If you get caught which there's a high risk of that will be the consequence, if you don't get caught you'll have to conceal the truth and I ensure you it will eat you up inside.

So all shameful moralizing aside, how is cheating a good solution for you?

 

[BrainDamage92]

bla bla when a ho wants it give it to her, then when you found out what your girl's been doing you can even the score

no, "at least I didnt cheat" is not a comfort, "at least I cheated aswell" is integrity my a$$,

best is if you dont go around suspicios and jealous, just sense when shes about to drift away and pull the plug, then when you dwell on "was she faithfull" matter you got ammo to give less fuks


elementary

also what thatfeel said, but it depends, for some its better to have a GF, its all about self esteem, the lone wolf is the strongest tho

 

[BlueAlpha1]

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This is a pantload. What kind of p*ssy can't keep his own word, even to himself much less anyone else? You can make excuses all day and all night. There is no excuse ever for 'cheating'.

If you want to be in a committed relationship - be in a committed relationship. If you don't want to be in a committed relationship - don't be in a committed relationship.

To lie about it because women might cheat is the most pathetic thing I have ever read on SS. It shows you to be a liar and a hypocrite and completely controlled by what a woman might do.

This is the result of decades of feminist indoctrination. A man is held to a different standard and is "only as good as his word." There has never been a stigma around women and their word in relationships. It's about her "feelings." You sound like a "happy wife, happy life" kinda guy

 

[Tictac]

This is the result of decades of feminist indoctrination. A man is held to a different standard and is "only as good as his word." There has never been a stigma around women and their word in relationships. It's about her "feelings." You sound like a "happy wife, happy life" kinda guy

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You want to fvck around on your woman and lie about it or hide it? Then fvck around on your woman and lie about it or hide it. You don't need to spend any time here trying to make it look good or justify it. It's just deception. Own it.

If you're not going to be straight up with either her or yourself, you are letting what a woman or women think of you control your behavior.

Cheating is bullsh*t.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

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You want to fvck around on your woman and lie about it or hide it? Then fvck around on your woman and lie about it or hide it. You don't need to spend any time here trying to make it look good or justify it. It's just deception. Own it.

If you're not going to be straight up with either her or yourself, you are letting what a woman or women think of you control your behavior.

Cheating is bullsh*t.

You don't have to cheat and lie and sneak around and do it. If you don't have the balls to drop her right now, let her know that your hand is forced, but you will ensure that your needs are taken care of.

After you find how easy it is to get it from others, you will eventually not be able to tolerate her bs.

 

[HeadLightsOn]

Holy crap this post seems to have a very 'white knight-ish' feel to it.

First 'cheating' needs to be defined.
Second Everything is not black and white
Third (TicTac) Some people stay in a so called committed relationship for different reasons even if the nest is dry and the love has flown. That doesn't mean that people have to part.
I have actually spoken to several people, male and female, who have interesting reasons why they have cheated. Morals aside ( and there seem to be plenty of those on this post), the one thing I wouldn't abide, is someone cheating, feeling guilty, then having the need to offload on the other party. Thats crap.
In summary, people have different reasons for their behaviour.
If some of the posts in reply here are about serial cheaters - well that IMO is a different story.
Flame on...

 

[guru1000]

Judge no one. We are all imperfect. There is no "right" or "wrong," just interpretations. No "bad" can fall upon you, as "tragedies" are the most effective teachers.

Act on your will shamelessly and unapologetically.

 

[zekko]

Judge no one. We are all imperfect. There is no "right" or "wrong," just interpretations. No "bad" can fall upon you, as "tragedies" are the most effective teachers.

Act on your will shamelessly and unapologetically.

Have you gotten into Alistair Crowley lately, Guru? You seem to be aping his "Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law" philosophy a lot recently.

 

[guru1000]

Zekko, I stay away from others' philosophies; they are just another form of social programming.

My ideas are my "own," shaped by an unequivocal open mind, experience, and deeper, maybe transcendental, analysis. Remember, the "crazy" man thinks the average man is crazy, and contrariwise.

 

[Tictac]

Cheating is alpha. Not cheating is for pandering betas who make one woman their world and hand all their power over to her like a boot licking slave.

Wake up men.

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Yeah. Go with that.

LOL

 

[zekko]

Zekko, I stay away from others' philosophies; they are just another form of social programming.

My ideas are my "own," shaped by an unequivocal open mind, experience, and deeper, maybe transcendental, analysis. Remember, the "crazy" man thinks the average man is crazy, and contrariwise.

I am a huge, huge fan of thinking for yourself. Doesn't mean you can't incorporate someone else's good idea when you hear it, but you should always think it through, weight it out, and see if it really works for you.

Sometimes I get a little frustrated here because it's hard for me to accept that some people just can't really think for themselves. It's very hard for me to respect someone who can't think for himself. Even if they are reading someone like Pook, who gives pretty reasonably good advice generally, if they just walk around parroting what they are told and not thinking for themselves, that irritates me.

People who have to follow a leader, those are the real betas. That's what a beta is, after all, isn't it? A follower.


Oh, as for cheating, I'm not a fan. I wouldn't go so far as to say there could never be a situation where it might be called for, but generally not a fan. I'm not going to do it just because "the world sucks and women have been mean to men in the past, so I'm going to fvck over Carol here, or whoever".

 

[guru1000]

For the record, Zekko, I've never cheated in any exclusive relation. But, I don't judge others who do. In some cultures, even today, it's expected for the husband to cheat on the side, but not to bring it home, otherwise he is not considered a real man.

Cheating or not to cheat is just another social convention.

The primary reason why I had never cheated is simply that in exclusive relations, my mind was no longer focused in chasing tail, but instead focused 100% into my business. And as I can get quite obsessive in whatever I focus upon, the need for outside sex evaporates.

 

[zekko]

The primary reason why I had never cheated is simply that in exclusive relations, my mind was no longer focused in chasing tail, but instead focused 100% into my business. And as I can get quite obsessive in whatever I focus upon, the need for outside sex evaporates.

Sounds a lot like my approach to exclusive relations. I use them as a way to avoid the distractions of chasing women while I focus on other things. At least partly.