The truth behind waiting for HER to call YOU.

[Poonani Maker]

Just had a gal be iffy with me for tonight, I believe, due to texting too slowly (she's 20), I had to do somethings and didn't text her immediately back, so she hasn't texted me immediately back! and so, I sure as H3ll am not texting her again. She should text soon, but if she don't, she don't.

Update: talk about jacking me around, Fvck! It's the age. She texted me back, and then a few more exchanges then lapse, start up again, I guess we won't meet out at the club we'd said we'd meet up at before. I should have went with another, who I'd blown off cause she was older. Uhp, there she goes again, these young texaholics... I'd eat her tang if she were here right now. Another I'd been been trying for weeks off and on, once again, she can't do anything this weekend, but I'll still keep at her cause she's still giving me good vibes, just I'm sure she's dating someone else. She a straight 8 so I'll have to wait till something goes wrong between her and her beau.

 

[spiegel549]

**update***

Backbreaker You are ****ing 2/2 bro LOL....

First I want to say I really appreciate every single one of you for posting and responding in a timely manner. Harry W. always appreciate your responses as well but I had to go with my gut and obviously no one is going to know every exact move with out being in the situation. But seriously THANK YOU...so check it out...

Backbreaker You ****ing gave me the plan and it ROCKED her ass right back into place.

The Beginning

She ends up showing up after all after my short little "you really don't know me yet," speech.

She knocks on my house door and there she is.

I grab her hand and say "lets go I have a surprise for you."

We get in my car, head down the street and go to this dessert place were they make BOMB ass late night snacks. The entire time she was super fun and flirty, we had a blast.

She was apparently high (stoned) when she showed up because she smokes pot (more on that later)

To save a **** load of details and typing we went out to eat I kept it LIGHT and FUN started slowly back up with the Kino, holding hands, kissing her neck etc. but SHE started touching me more and more since I was holding back.

We grabbed more snacks at the store and went back to my place and started watching a movie. Once again I kept it light and fun, and did not push for sex NOTHING just kept it light and fun. SHE started kissing me, touching me, cuddling up with me during the movie, I gave in a little and then held back a little too.

She saw I had beer, so then we cracked a few brews, starting munching down on the chips etc.

Now at this time the convo started up....a lot of touching on her part, tickling, heavily flirting, joking with each other once again me keeping it LIGHT AND FUN.

I held back so much and in my head said (if I don't bang her oh well let me show her how wrong she was to judge me so quick) she literally jumps on top of me, threw her shirt off, and we literally ****ed for a solid 45 mins. straight.

As we were ****ing she goes "lay there I want to **** you!" she was screaming at the top of her lunges, we did everything position know to man, she was ****ing deep throat gagging, smacking her in the face, smacking me back, literally nothing was not done lets just say that lol...


The Finale

So we are lying there, out of breath and I said "so you still think I am a bad vibe." in a flirty sarcastic tone and she goes and I quote "I am really really sorry for judging you so quickly...it was wrong of me to do that..I actually....like you...."

I said "well I am glad you didn't judge me so quick, we have plenty of more fun things we need to go and do."

While lying there we came up with another date to get dinner at this place I know then she said afterwards I should come to her place and have some beers, watch a few movies.

We got dressed, I walked her to the gate and she said "I got it from here." in a flirty tone, quick make out session, a few words and off she went.
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So......good recovery? I would say so.

Only Problem

She mentioned she was "dating another guy," not sure if it was her ex, or straight up another guy.

I wish I can think of the word to explain this girl...she isn't "crazy" but she has a really out there sense of humor (like myself) she was ass naked and she goes "I think I am going to go outside naked.." and I go good luck don't get raped haha. She goes "You can't rape the willing."

She is definitely out there haha. But I like it...young, fun, amazing ****.

What do you guys think!?

Well at the end of the day tonight was a ****ing blast, because I kept it LIGHT AND FUN, and didn't give a **** if we ****ed or not. I guess that showed??

 

[backbreaker]

I'm glad to see you have had some success. we don't get enough success stories around here. People here tend to forgot that i was single for quite a while, they see me posting about me and my wife and assume i " don't know what it's like " man if i were single you mofos wouldn't have chance in hell lol. you date enough women they are all the same just packaged differently.


now see how easy that was. and the funny thing is, you got exactly what you wanted and you even when you sarcastically told her the question again, **** if she truthfully answered it she couldn't say anything that she wasn't thinking.


you seem to have the right frame of mind. she has a BF so don't take this one too seriously and the best thing you could do IMHO is give her 5-6 days with no contact. i get the sense that, she contacts you when she gets "tired" of her boyfriend. give her a few days to miss you/do the BF/GF thing, spin other plates, do your thing. just tell her you are busy but don't make a huge issue out of her having a BF.


in short, don't.. go ghost, she has done nothing wrongw tih you to go ghost, but dont' start texting / calling/whatever every other day either. get a life, do **** i don't care how hard it is you need to go a few days and act like you are a man that has **** going on. let her fantaize about you/dream about you she can't do that when you are always around her.


if i were you, what i woudl exactly do, is i would wait until.. probably Thursday and call her and when she asks where you were, tell her you were busy with school/whatever the **** it is you do lol. tell her you have to see her on X date, conme up wtih a short action date that won't be more than 1-2 hours then bounce. dont' even try to take her home. **** will rock her ****ing world. lol this is how you get girls crying on the phone about how much they love you and ****.

anyway great ****ing work

 

[spiegel549]

Backbreaker

Once again THANKS bro, good looking out. I like your game plan except a few minor details.

1.) So don't call tomorrow to just say "Hey I was thinking about you, had a nice night with you, lets get together again soon." Sorta thing?

2.) She leaves Wednesday for 6 days (out of the country) for Thanksgiving. Returns Sunday night.

We talked about getting together possibly tuesday to do the dinner/beers at her place afterwards...

How to play it from here??

 

[zekko]

1. you dont' call a girl after you PIITB to "keep her interest up" lol you call her beucase that's the gentlemanly thing to do. we here at sosuave have a tad bit of class

I might also say you call her up because you want to (as opposed to keeping her interest up). But I don't think I've ever heard the "wait three days" thing applied to after having sex with her, even in the most extreme pickup circles.

As for guys here at SoSuave having class, lol speak for yourself BB. Clearly a lot of guys here do have class, but it's just as clear of lot of them don't.

But, if i have to use those type of silly ass tactics to get a girl in bed, that tells me a lot about the girl. i can't / dont' have time for girls that immature. not saying I have to have older broads, but that is an extremely immature girl who falls for bull**** like that. This is the girl that gets off on having her life a mini drama.

I agree. If the girl has high interest in you, the games aren't necessary. In fact, if she has high interest, you can just nip the games in the bud. Of course, a lot of guys will say "yeah, but how do you get her to have high interest in you?". Improve yourself into a high quality guy, and believe in yourself and what you have to offer.

Of course, PUAs teach that women want and crave drama. But I agree that this is a sign of immaturity and a low quality woman.

This situation you got yourself in may be salvageable. DO NOT TAKE HER OUT TO DINNER. THIS WILL HIROSHIMA EVERYTHING YOU HAVE BEEN DOING RIGHT SO FAR.

Seriously? I don't know what it is you guys have against eating. I've heard it said here that dinners don't make good first dates (I don't even necessarily agree with that - it just depends on whether I'm hungry or not). But I've never heard guys say don't take a girl out to dinner even AFTER you've had sex with her.

Bottom line here though, I'm wary of this girl. The initial flaking, and flaking in favor of an ex-boyfriend yet, I'd say that's a yellow flag at least.

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

I recently experienced a younger girl who changed our 1st date to another day, and then flaked on the new arranged date with some ex bf excuse.

Since I went NC on her and deleted the # a few days later she pulls a 180 and reached out to ME and BEGS me for another date. Long story short she came over, we screwed all night.

I have been putting a lot of thought into this from an experimental view of how this situation turned around.

1) The NC obviously worked. When she called she said "I haven't heard from you."

So my big question is how important do you all think it really is to have the woman reach out TO YOU.

The old beta mentality is "Ok I slept with her so now I need to reach out to her a few times and keep her interest level up!" Then I think thats what every average beta guy would do...probably reach out the next day to ask her to get together so soon. Showing her he has nothing else to do but think about seeing her next...this is a hot college babe, and I want to make sure I stand out from ALL the rest. I want HER calling me to come over and sleep at her house, and canceling with other guys because she rather see me.

So if you sleep with a broad Wednesday for the first time, and you want to keep her around and have her begging for it. How long would you personally wait until reaching out again for round 2, 3, 4 etc? (If she doesn't reach out to you first)

The gist of it, you were her #2 or #3. The top picks turned her down. She was in a rush to save her ego. She called you to feel wanted again.

Going NC doesn't create attraction. She called you because of the above and probably with a hint of desperation. She was also obviously attracted to you at least a bit from the beginning.

In general, NC will get you radio silence and nothing more because even a below average girl has many above average men fighting for her jobless/minimum wage attention.

 

[Harry Wilmington]

@backbreaker OK, now you're confusing me.

When you first posted a response to his OP, you said:

you dont' call a girl after you PIITB to "keep her interest up" lol you call her beucase that's the gentlemanly thing to do. we here at sosuave have a tad bit of class, and i mean, the woman just let you **** her the least you can do is call her the next day and say a few words...
If you don't call a girl after you have had sex she is going to fear that all you want is sex, and while some girls are in the back of their minds, fine with that, no girl i have ever met is that much of a ***** to just, let a guy put it all out there like that.. yeah ***** don't call me unless we are making plans to ****. that's not very polite, DJ, anything. that's a selfish individual... if i have to use those type of silly ass tactics to get a girl in bed, that tells me a lot about the girl. i can't / dont' have time for girls that immature.

But now, you're saying he should not call her, go 5 to 6 days with no contact, and to let her fantasize about him. All of which is what I was advising him to do in the first place, especially after the whole ex-bf situation went down!

Ugh... anyway, she didn't say she had a bf, she said she was dating someone else. Two completely different things, but it's not usually a good thing when a girl mentions another guy in the picture. It usually signals that a girl is either (a) still not completely sold on you yet, or (b) is preparing you for when she decides to start being flakey again (i.e. now that you know she's dating someone, she can just say "sorry, i made plans with so and so" when or if she turns down one of his offers).

Bottom line: she's not yours just yet, so, like i said before (and like backbreaker has, apparently, decided to agree with, lol), don't call her for the next couple of days. I'm telling you, if she's really starting to feel something for you, SHE WILL CALL YOU WITHIN THAT TIME FRAME. She won't be able to help herself.

You don't need to call her to say "you had a good time, let's meet up again" - you already said it, so repeating yourself makes you start to sound needy and more involved, which you don't need to give off to her since she just told you she's seeing someone else. Just relax, show a bit of patience, do other stuff, and wait a few days. Even if you don't see her til next week, in the grand scheme of things 8 days is NOT a long time.

Hope this helps!

 

[spiegel549]

On the fence

OK, so far Backbreaker / Harry we have hit the nail on the head.

BB Originally it was hit her up the next day, so now its turned to let her reach out to me for this situation? Please explain.

Harry She leaves Wednesday. We made plans for Tuesday. So if I remain patient and dont reach out today or Monday. What is the plan, that SHE reaches out to ask me to get together before she leaves? What if she doesnt, should I really not contact her before shes gone for 6 days? The reaching out to her every 2 days (not exact everytime cant be predictable) has been working solid, why change it?

BB, HARRY, what do you think?

**Also I dont think she has an official BF, but then again who knows. I know there is an ex floating around still thats a fact.**

Appreciated men!

 

[backbreaker]

1.) So don't call tomorrow to just say "Hey I was thinking about you, had a nice night with you, lets get together again soon." Sorta thing?

send a one line text/email to her stating that you are busy but wanted to let her know you had a great time wtih her and that you re thinking about her, and are looking ofrward to seeing her again. don't say anything else

We talked about getting together possibly tuesday to do the dinner/beers at her place afterwards...

How to play it from here??

tell her you have family **** to do and something came up. she isn't going anywhere the hook is deep. she will miss you like crazy once she gets back and will make the next experience more exciting

Bottom line here though, I'm wary of this girl. The initial flaking, and flaking in favor of an ex-boyfriend yet, I'd say that's a yellow flag at least.

yeah her saying she has a boyfriend pretty much was my sign lol

When you first posted a response to his OP, you said:

But now, you're saying he should not call her, go 5 to 6 days with no contact, and to let her fantasize about him. All of which is what I was advising him to do in the first place, especially after the whole ex-bf situation went down!

the thing is, you were wrong in the first instance. different advice applies to different situtations.

the first situtation the hook was not set. going NC would have confirmed in her mind that he is a creeper and she would have bounced.

however now the hook is set. she's not going anywhere.

it will work for the same reason that her him ****ing her brains out, not 2 hours after she said that she gets a bad vibe from him and him difusing it by taking her down the street for 30 mintues and spending some "quality time" with her then proceeding to take her right back home and do the exact same thing she was leery about him trying to do and be over the roof about it, worked. beucase, you are thinking with logic lol and women don't.


The reason she ****ed him was simply because she then at that time felt wanted/liked. regardless of the fact that he had not seriously diffused her original concerns, she felt a connection wtih him.

this would work for the same reason in this particular instance. common sense/logic tells you, we just had a good night together, let's get back together let me show her that i like her and spend more time with her.

and while, i dont' think he would blow it if he did that, it's not gonna produce "maximium results". if he really wants to get the most out of this one he has to, after he has in her mind, showed that he really cares about her and that he is an awesome guy, take away the bait and give her something to think about.


The number 1 thing AFC's have to guard against is the automatic want to want to see a girl more and more the more she likes him. on a subconscious level you have done this twice, once after wednesday and again last night.

@backbreaker OK, now you're confusing me.

good. that's the entire purpose. i/you/a guy wants a girl who he is ****ing to not be 100% clear on what he wants. that puts the ball in your court. this is how you get girls to think about you when you aren't around.

Law 3 ​

Conceal your Intentions ​

Keep people off-balance and in the dark by never revealing the purpose behind your actions. If they have no clue what you are up to, they cannot prepare a defense. Guide them far enough down the wrong path, envelope them in enough smoke, and by the time they realize your intentions, it will be too late.

 

[spiegel549]

send a one line text/email to her stating that you are busy but wanted to let her know you had a great time wtih her and that you re thinking about her, and are looking ofrward to seeing her again. don't say anything else

this would work for the same reason in this particular instance. common sense/logic tells you, we just had a good night together, let's get back together let me show her that i like her and spend more time with her.

and while, i dont' think he would blow it if he did that, it's not gonna produce "maximium results". if he really wants to get the most out of this one he has to, after he has in her mind, showed that he really cares about her and that he is an awesome guy, take away the bait and give her something to think about.

1) So I am trying to get her thinking about me to the max here. The first time around when she threw the bad vibe comment at me, If I never pushed for her to come over, and took her out etc. This would of all been dead in the water. But I went with what you said BB and it worked, worked really well.

2.) So I send a short and sweet little text, just saying what you said, "I was thinking about you, had a great time with you, looking forward to seeing you again." Now there is no way that is going to put me in that needy AFC zone right?? (I know its different now because we slept together twice, the 2nd time being over the top)

3.) I see what you mean by the hook is now in there deep. It wasn't at first, but she openly apologized for judging me so quick and even openly said she likes me. Regardless of what she said with another guy being in the picture.

The Move So besides that little text, DO NOT reach out again?? Come wednesday I get no response OR she actually asks me to get together Tuesday...do I really want to NOT go out with her? I really want to say something came up? She is gone for 6 days...by canceling the goal is to get her coming back really looking forward to seeing me right? Please go into this more for me! I can see that happening but if SHE calls to get together, not going out with her?

THANKS BROTHER!

 

[backbreaker]

1) So I am trying to get her thinking about me to the max here. The first time around when she threw the bad vibe comment at me, If I never pushed for her to come over, and took her out etc. This would of all been dead in the water. .

exactly. going NC at a time a girl is getting a bad vibe from you is telling her to move on. it's an entirely different set of circumstances.

however now you have diffused the situation and now she knows (thinks) you don't just want sex. she's invested into you now.

2.) So I send a short and sweet little text, just saying what you said, "I was thinking about you, had a great time with you, looking forward to seeing you again." Now there is no way that is going to put me in that needy AFC zone right?? (I know its different now because we slept together twice, the 2nd time being over the top)

nah. even today if my wife and i have like some serious action in bed the next morning i will tell her i enjoyed last night or even buy roses (shocking! AFC alert). it shows you appreciate her but at the same time, going NC for a week because you got **** to do, shows that while you appreciate her, you clearly aren't obsessed with her and you dont' need her. that's the perfect balance. a guy who likes me because I'm that great of a gal, not beucase he is needy and doesn't have a life.

The Move So besides that little text, DO NOT reach out again?? Come wednesday I get nothing and shes gone for 6 days...do you think she will come back really looking forward to seeing me? Please go into this more for me on the logic behind it.

see above.

think of it like this. the first month or 2, you are laying the ground work for any future you might have, rather it be a LTR or a **** buddy. in short, stop worrying about if she is going to be around tomorrow or not and start worrying about making sure she understands how you roll 2-3 months from now. so when you are spinning plates and you got 3-4 other plates, and you don't call for 5-6 days, while she doesn't like it she isn't alarmed.

it also conveys you aren't needy and that you have confidence in yourself. and ****, that you might have other girls as well. don't tell her you don't.

what i would do is i would call her on wednesday and say hey something came up with thanksgiivng/family stuff i have to cancel but i know you are going out of town, i have to see you when you get back Monday, i'll pick you up. leave it at that and go ghost until she gets back

Look I know you like this girl but you got to keep this in mind. this is the mindset you have to develop. YOU aren't sold on her yet. stop worrying about if you do this if she will leave or if you do that if she will leave. that is 100% AFC think. and eventually if your default mindset is like this you will **** up and she will eventually fuse out.

she ****ed your brains out on the first date, she told you she is dating someone else, why the hell are you so sold on her at this point? beucase she is ****ing you? girls **** you beucase you are the **** so that's nothing new. what you are trying to convey is the "you are cool and yes i apprdicate the sex but i'm still not sold.. you haven't sold me yet and utnil you do i'm not going to make you the centerpiece of my life"

and ****, if she asks tell her.. dont' tell her utnil you get back from thanksgiivng but tell her in so many words that she has to step up to thep late and earn your time it's not given freely. sex is great but that's not enough.

 

[Atom Smasher]

Personally, I think a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

If you let it go till after thanksgiving, you'll be thinking about her and wondering the entire time. Not a good scenario.

I would rather bring it to a conclusion before thanksgiving, whichever way it goes. If it tanks befeore thanksgiving, it would have tanked soon after. SO why put yourself in a position of having her in the forefront of your mind for an entire week? It will rapidly build up into neediness and outcome dependence.

Make something happen on Tuesday and accept the outcome, whatever it may be. The worst thing a man can do is to put himself into a position of wondering if a girl will accept him or not at a later date. It turns into a vague feeling of waiting for a possible execution as it gains momentum in the mind.

If it were me, I would take care of business and have certain knowledge of what's going on before the holiday.

 

[backbreaker]

Personally, I think a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

If you let it go till after thanksgiving, you'll be thinking about her and wondering the entire time. Not a good scenario.

I would rather bring it to a conclusion before thanksgiving, whichever way it goes. If it tanks befeore thanksgiving, it would have tanked soon after. SO why put yourself in a position of having her in the forefront of your mind for an entire week? It will rapidly build up into neediness and outcome dependence.

Make something happen on Tuesday and accept the outcome, whatever it may be. The worst thing a man can do is to put himself into a position of wondering if a girl will accept him or not at a later date. It turns into a vague feeling of waiting for a possible execution as it gains momentum in the mind.

If it were me, I would take care of business and have certain knowledge of what's going on before the holiday.

this is a very good point.

I could do the advice I laid out with no problem beucse I had options. NO offense OP but i don't know if you could without coming off as needy. Only you know that.

I personally, i would go so far as to guarntee you that if you played your cards right and keep yourself busy for the breark, she wouldn't go anywhere. but if you can't handle that mentally you need to do something tuesday.

only you can answer that.

 

[drak_ool]

But remember, the only reason she reached out to you was because she had interest. That's a big thing. The only thing, really, that makes these situations a success.

Tend to agree with Vlad here. If the interest is there, doesn't really matter if you call or she calls. The reverse of that is that if the interest is not there, even if you got her number and call/txt it will still not lead to anything.

I've actually been experiencing with giving my number out instead of getting a number for a few months now and it's worked wonders. The way I do it is by giving them my business card and throwing a joke about her calling me when she needs my services. While you do need to build some rapport before you pull this move, the success rate has been impressive. At least 50% of the girls end up txting/calling/emailing me, and I've banged every one I was interested in pursuing (last one was 4 days ago as a matter of fact...)

I also tend to go the BackBreaker route with a girl whom I've just f.ucked: unless it was a one night stand situation, I'll usually txt her something silly the nxt day even if I have no intention of ever seeing her again, adds a little humane touch lol

 

[spiegel549]

this is a very good point.

I could do the advice I laid out with no problem beucse I had options. NO offense OP but i don't know if you could without coming off as needy. Only you know that.

I personally, i would go so far as to guarntee you that if you played your cards right and keep yourself busy for the breark, she wouldn't go anywhere. but if you can't handle that mentally you need to do something tuesday.

only you can answer that.

BB You have not steered me wrong yet. I know writing on this site can come off as a bit AFC but I assure you, I can handle this mentally, if this is what I have to do for MAX results, I will DO IT. Of course you start to like a chick after you are sleeping with her but the ex bf thing has me proceeding with caution (understanding in my mind if it flops, it flops) not investing my emotions into it just yet. (learned that from the first chick you helped me with 2 weeks ago)

If you think the ultimate power play is to not see her until she gets back, then thats what I am going to do. I DO NOT want to come off as "mr needy," because it is going to seem like I have nothing going on.

You know this came into my head just now that when she was leaving she goes to me "yeah lets see whats going on for tuesday," never saying 100% yes. So I think if I just make it known that its a no go, its a win for me.

The Move

Send a text later today about what we said, short and sweet. Tuesday night (she leaves wed.) just call and say what you said. Family plans etc but when you get back lets go for that dinner.

The advantage is she is going to be OUT OF THE COUNTRY, I am not contacting her and getting charged $10 a minute haha. So I assure you I will not contact.

When she returns I will call her, and continue as planned.

At the end of the day

If her interest is high, and she really does like me. Going 8 days and then coming back and all of sudden she has no interest is very unlikely. If it is then there is nothing I could of done, and there is a lot more going on that I rather not even bother with. Isn't the overall result that eventually she asks to be exclusive and she stops seeing other guys???

Agreed? Any adds?

 

[backbreaker]

i'm not worried about her interest level, it's not like she's going on a **** half america tour or something she's going out of the country. she's not going to be ****ing anyone. even if she wanted to there really isn't any time to lose interest. the only way it could work against you is if the BF was going and i doubt he is.

i'm worried about you being overly needy once she comes back as AS astutely pointed out.

but if you play it right it could be some of the best sex of your life lol.


the key is putting her off until next week, but at the same time, making sure she knows it's not beucsae you don't ilke her or don't want to see her, you just got **** to do. that's really the key. get that part down and you won't have a problem

 

[spiegel549]

BB Thanks Brother. "the key is putting her off until next week, but at the same time, making sure she knows it's not beucsae you don't ilke her or don't want to see her, you just got **** to do. that's really the key. get that part down and you won't have a problem."

I texted her exactly what you said:

Me: "Hey Nicole, I have a busy day but I was thinking about you, and I wanted to let you know I had a great time with you. I am looking forward to seeing you again."

Her "lol I was about to tell you the same thing but you beat me to it! Can't wait for that date we got coming up..have a great day! "

I can totally see how holding off to next week will build the tension to wanting to see me. Like you said, I am going to just say "Oh I would of loved to do this day but family is driving up blah blah but as soon as you get back we are going to xyz like we said."

Agreed?

 

[Plutoman]

What I've read (keyword: not from personal experience, at least thus far) is that there's a balance point in escalating tension from the time gap, to over-extending the time gap and the tension drops as the initial rush is gone.

So my thoughts from that is that just keep it a nice time interval, not too short, but not overly long, either.

 

[spiegel549]

**The Plan is in motion**

You know I originally had this large post and it hit me like a brick wall...

Who ****ing cares lol....I will never learn if I need to post every single detail step by step with what happens. I need to take what I have learned and apply what you have told me to do Backbreaker and just play trial and error and no repeat old mistakes that I know are wrong.

I hit her up. I made the plans for the Monday we both get back from traveling.

After getting off the phone I texted a short and sweet message saying "bring me back something from europe , ill be looking forward to having dinner with you when we both are back."

She replies "I will! and same, see you soon! =)"

Perfect. Now GHOST until she gets back, let that tension build up, and really get this AFC ****ing mindset out of my head haha

 

[spiegel549]

<---See first post on bottom of page 2

The greatest feeling is ****ing up a situation with a previous chick, and then being in that situation again 2 weeks later, NOT making the same mistakes, and watching the success. Still, I got a ways to go. But so far..