The truth behind waiting for HER to call YOU.

[spiegel549]

I recently experienced a younger girl who changed our 1st date to another day, and then flaked on the new arranged date with some ex bf excuse.

Since I went NC on her and deleted the # a few days later she pulls a 180 and reached out to ME and BEGS me for another date. Long story short she came over, we screwed all night.

I have been putting a lot of thought into this from an experimental view of how this situation turned around.

1) The NC obviously worked. When she called she said "I haven't heard from you."

So my big question is how important do you all think it really is to have the woman reach out TO YOU.

The old beta mentality is "Ok I slept with her so now I need to reach out to her a few times and keep her interest level up!" Then I think thats what every average beta guy would do...probably reach out the next day to ask her to get together so soon. Showing her he has nothing else to do but think about seeing her next...this is a hot college babe, and I want to make sure I stand out from ALL the rest. I want HER calling me to come over and sleep at her house, and canceling with other guys because she rather see me.

So if you sleep with a broad Wednesday for the first time, and you want to keep her around and have her begging for it. How long would you personally wait until reaching out again for round 2, 3, 4 etc? (If she doesn't reach out to you first)

 

[VladPatton]

But remember, the only reason she reached out to you was because she had interest. That's a big thing. The only thing, really, that makes these situations a success.
As for contacting her; I don't think there is a said time. You can try for this weekend and see what happens. Eventually you have to figure out to see where things will ultimately be heading (booty calls, FB's, LTR).

Glad things worked out for you and she came over for some baloney!

 

[backbreaker]

bro you have a lot to learn


1. you dont' call a girl after you PIITB to "keep her interest up" lol you call her beucase that's the gentlemanly thing to do. we here at sosuave have a tad bit of class, and i mean, the woman just let you **** her the least you can do is call her the next day and say a few words. probably caught your load and all lol. There is nothing AFC about that at all in fact it's quite charming. You are missing the forest in the trees here. lol she let you **** and you are worried about keeping her interest up.

Understand what an AFC is. An AFC is someone who showers, UNEARNED attention on a woman. If a woman ****s your brains out, I am liable to say that she has earned a pat on the back or a doggy treat. you estbliash the reward system early on. you do something to make me happy I do something to make you happy. the AFC does **** to make her happy and hopes she does something to make him happy. But don't confuse doing **** tom ake her happy in general= AFC. lol that's not a DJ that's an *******.


If you don't call a girl after you have had sex she is going to fear that all you want is sex, and while some girls are in the back of their minds, fine with that, no girl i have ever met is that much of a ***** to just, let a guy put it all out there like that.. yeah ***** don't call me unless we are making plans to ****. that's not very polite, DJ, anything. that's a selfish individual.



2. this is somewhat advanced DJ tactics.. I eman pat your self on the back you got laid and that's good. But, if i have to use those type of silly ass tactics to get a girl in bed, that tells me a lot about the girl. i can't / dont' have time for girls that immature. not saying I have to have older broads, but that is an extremely immature girl who falls for bull**** like that. This is the girl that gets off on having her life a mini drama.

In other words, she liked you in the first place. The not calling a girl int he history of DJism has never sparked that level of response out of a broad. the girl did not **** your brains out beucase you did not call her. she liked you enough to **** you already. so with that in mind, what exactly was this entire play? who the hell cancels a date with a guy they like, just for ****s and giggles lol? a girl i don't have time for is the answer



anyway, keep on keepin on

 

[perseverance]

I have a one strike rule (call me petty), but if a girl rejects me/flakes or whatever else, then that is it as far as I am concerned. If she comes back with an olive branch, I politely decline, purely for the sake of doing so as I believe accepting such a branch makes you appear weak and easy, just my 2cents on the matter.

 

[flashpoint]

she already has talked about a "next time", she "forgot" her i-pod ... i dont think it is utterly important who calls whom first. or even when.

she is happy to fock an "older" guy and unless you start behaving like one of the guys of her age (insecure, volatile, demanding) my guess is she intends to keep doing that for some time. you need to be the stable part in that relationship and prolly need to set and keep the frame for further interaction, but that also means you just keep doing what you did so far. nothing more, nothing less.

and since you are kind of inspired maybe you want to take that new found energy and put it into something you have been wanting to do for some time but couldnt bring yourself to start it yet.

 

[spiegel549]

bro you have a lot to learn


1. you dont' call a girl after you PIITB to "keep her interest up" lol you call her beucase that's the gentlemanly thing to do. we here at sosuave have a tad bit of class, and i mean, the woman just let you **** her the least you can do is call her the next day and say a few words. probably caught your load and all lol. There is nothing AFC about that at all in fact it's quite charming. You are missing the forest in the trees here. lol she let you **** and you are worried about keeping her interest up.

Understand what an AFC is. An AFC is someone who showers, UNEARNED attention on a woman. If a woman ****s your brains out, I am liable to say that she has earned a pat on the back or a doggy treat. you estbliash the reward system early on. you do something to make me happy I do something to make you happy. the AFC does **** to make her happy and hopes she does something to make him happy. But don't confuse doing **** tom ake her happy in general= AFC. lol that's not a DJ that's an *******.


If you don't call a girl after you have had sex she is going to fear that all you want is sex, and while some girls are in the back of their minds, fine with that, no girl i have ever met is that much of a ***** to just, let a guy put it all out there like that.. yeah ***** don't call me unless we are making plans to ****. that's not very polite, DJ, anything. that's a selfish individual.



2. this is somewhat advanced DJ tactics.. I eman pat your self on the back you got laid and that's good. But, if i have to use those type of silly ass tactics to get a girl in bed, that tells me a lot about the girl. i can't / dont' have time for girls that immature. not saying I have to have older broads, but that is an extremely immature girl who falls for bull**** like that. This is the girl that gets off on having her life a mini drama.

In other words, she liked you in the first place. The not calling a girl int he history of DJism has never sparked that level of response out of a broad. the girl did not **** your brains out beucase you did not call her. she liked you enough to **** you already. so with that in mind, what exactly was this entire play? who the hell cancels a date with a guy they like, just for ****s and giggles lol? a girl i don't have time for is the answer



anyway, keep on keepin on

Bro your posts are ALWAYS refreshing haha. I have to thank you, you set me straight.

I actually just called her. She answered right away, very flirty.

I just simply asked how her day was going and that I enjoyed spending time with her wednesday night. She replied with "do you want to get together tomorrow?" hahaha.

I replied with I have plans later that night and she interrupted me and said "or sunday?"

She then goes "I do have a lot of projects and midterms to finish up I really shouldn't even be hanging out until this is done."

I just replied with "Well if you have a lot of work we can get together after the weekend."

She said "No I want to come over, tomorrow is good."

I set the time. Done.

hahaha. Bro I guess at the end of the day if a woman shows great behavior you reward her. If she shows ****ty behavior like flaking well then that when she gets the NC and disciplined. I clearly had that mixed up.

Backbreak you are the ****ing man!

 

[spiegel549]

she already has talked about a "next time", she "forgot" her i-pod ... i dont think it is utterly important who calls whom first. or even when.

she is happy to fock an "older" guy and unless you start behaving like one of the guys of her age (insecure, volatile, demanding) my guess is she intends to keep doing that for some time. you need to be the stable part in that relationship and prolly need to set and keep the frame for further interaction, but that also means you just keep doing what you did so far. nothing more, nothing less.

and since you are kind of inspired maybe you want to take that new found energy and put it into something you have been wanting to do for some time but couldnt bring yourself to start it yet.

I missed this when I was typing the above post..

Absolutely brother, as long as I continue doing exactly what I have been doing. I should just ride this out and see were it goes. If you read my above post this proves to show your point is even more true.

 

[Greasy Pig]

I fvcking love SS success stories.
You took what you've learned here and used it correctly.
You didn't act needy, you played it cool and showed her you're not just another guy she can string along.
Epic power play and now she's hooked.
Try to stay focused and NEVER get complacent.
As soon as you think you've got her where you want her, women have an insanely effective habit of throwing curveballs.
Good shhit OP!!!

 

[Purefilth]

Success stories make me happy too

keep on keepin on

^^mu'fu'ker thats word!

 

[bish0p]

Very nice follow up, spiegel. I don't think I've ever been that cool after having sex for the first time.

 

[Pimp-sicle]

bro you have a lot to learn


1. you dont' call a girl after you PIITB to "keep her interest up" lol you call her beucase that's the gentlemanly thing to do. we here at sosuave have a tad bit of class, and i mean, the woman just let you **** her the least you can do is call her the next day and say a few words. probably caught your load and all lol. There is nothing AFC about that at all in fact it's quite charming. You are missing the forest in the trees here. lol she let you **** and you are worried about keeping her interest up.

Understand what an AFC is. An AFC is someone who showers, UNEARNED attention on a woman. If a woman ****s your brains out, I am liable to say that she has earned a pat on the back or a doggy treat. you estbliash the reward system early on. you do something to make me happy I do something to make you happy. the AFC does **** to make her happy and hopes she does something to make him happy. But don't confuse doing **** tom ake her happy in general= AFC. lol that's not a DJ that's an *******.


If you don't call a girl after you have had sex she is going to fear that all you want is sex, and while some girls are in the back of their minds, fine with that, no girl i have ever met is that much of a ***** to just, let a guy put it all out there like that.. yeah ***** don't call me unless we are making plans to ****. that's not very polite, DJ, anything. that's a selfish individual.



2. this is somewhat advanced DJ tactics.. I eman pat your self on the back you got laid and that's good. But, if i have to use those type of silly ass tactics to get a girl in bed, that tells me a lot about the girl. i can't / dont' have time for girls that immature. not saying I have to have older broads, but that is an extremely immature girl who falls for bull**** like that. This is the girl that gets off on having her life a mini drama.

In other words, she liked you in the first place. The not calling a girl int he history of DJism has never sparked that level of response out of a broad. the girl did not **** your brains out beucase you did not call her. she liked you enough to **** you already. so with that in mind, what exactly was this entire play? who the hell cancels a date with a guy they like, just for ****s and giggles lol? a girl i don't have time for is the answer



anyway, keep on keepin on

Great post and exactly my thoughts. I think this is a lesson we have all learned as we come up in the game. Doing something nice automatically makes a person who is re-wiring their thought process on women think that the behavior is AFC AFC AFC.

You calling her was the smart thing to do bro! haha And look how it worked out.

Just don't fall in love! haha







PIMP

 

[Harry Wilmington]

Every one on here seems to have a different opinion on the whole "should a call be made the day after sex" argument. I'm sure we all have had different experiences as it pertains to this particular issue. The opinion I'm about to give is based on 2 things: my personal experience, and the years I've spent studying the psychology of women as it pertains to dating.

First, the experience: Nowadays, I never call a woman the day after sex. I used to do this and, to them, it's just like calling them the day after a date. In fact, it pretty much IS calling them the day after the date, one where sex just happened to take place.

As I'm sure many of you can attest to, calling a girl the day immediately after a date can result in you appearing too eager or clingy. Calling her the day right after sex can have the same effect. In my experience, I have found that just because a woman had sex with me doesn't mean she's fully invested in doing anything with me beyond that (i.e. dating, having a real relationship). A man still has to prove he's not an AFC; calling her up the next day just to say "hi" or see how she's doing, telling her what a great time you had when you both had sex... all of it just SCREAMS "I don't get enough pvssy, and you're my only option."

No bueno.

Second, the psychology of women: Men's logic gets them in trouble. In the guy world, it makes logical sense to call her the next day. In our heads, if we don't call, she might think of us as rude! Not caring! Wanting her only for sex! And we can't have her thinking that, now can we?!?

And yet... if men were to stop only looking at how THEY look at things, and how women actually process all these actions (or non-actions), they might change their tune a bit...

I've had the privilege of living with women and/or working around them a lot, many of whom were regularly dating guys. I've observed them going on dates with guys and ignoring their calls the next day, and I've also seen them go on dates with guys where, afterward, they were waiting by their phones for DAYS waiting for them to call.

Now, why would they ignore the guys that were reaching out to them immediately, and even getting ANGRY at them for continuing to try and contact them; yet, when the guys who didn't call right away finally DID call, they'd answer the phone all happy and ready to accept what-EVER kind of date they wanted to take them on?

Here's the truth, revealed for you gentleman...

When you don't call a girl the day after sex... even if she just had a small amount of interest in you, she suddenly starts to question herself. At first, the questions she asks herself are meant to try and blow off how she feels about you - "OMG, we had sex! What does this mean? Is he going to start calling me 10 to 20 times a day? Does he think I'm his girlfriend? Is he going to try and stalk me all the time? I'll bet he's trying to call me up right now with some boring talk like all the other guys do!"

But then.. if a few hours go by and you don't call, the questions in her head start to change...

"Wow, he hasn't called yet? Well... I guess that means he's not obsessed with me, ha ha... I'm sure he'll call eventually... and if he doesn't... hmm... well, what if he doesn't? Nah, he'll call - after all, I'm ME!"

Then, 12 hours pass, and her self-doubt button goes off...

"I can't believe he hasn't called! What kind of guy IS he?! Did he like me in the first place, or was it all just about sex? Wasn't I more than that to him? After all, I was charming on the date, right? I smelled good... or at least I think I did? Maybe I had something between my teeth and he didn't tell me? Was my dress showing the right amount of cleavage? Or, maybe I was showing too much cleavage? Ugh, why hasn't he called yet?!?"

By the time you get to hour 24, she's already made calls to several girlfriends asking about you; discussing what may or may not be keeping you away from calling her ("maybe he's just busy" "maybe he was hurt in the past"); and trying to figure out a plan of action to re-connect with you in the event that you don't call her.

And this is just after ONE day!

Why do girls go through this? Because they don't want to view themselves as being a slvt who gave it up too soon; because they WANT to be desired, and you not doing so right away fvcks with their head; and - most importantly - because they're not USED to a guy being so patient. Every guy she's dated since age 12 has been needy and attached, needing her to qualify them as soon as the date's over; you come along and wait even ONE day to call her after sex, and she doesn't know how to process it.

And that's what you ultimately want - you want to break a girl's self-imposed ego down enough to where she realizes that maybe, just maybe, she isn't as much of the shiznit as she thought she was. THAT'S why you wait to call her - it's not about not being a gentleman, it's about making her easier to deal with when you DO ask her out again. Plus, i find if you have it set in your mind to wait at least TWO days to hit them up, they'll usually be the one to hit you up first - it's one of the many things in their anti-slvt defense they HAVE to throw out as a last resort, and it definitely means she'll be easier to bang with very little hassle.

Hope this helps!

 

[backbreaker]

I generally agree with a lot of your posts but i can't dig that.

women at the end of the day, all of them. the ugly fat ones, the super hot ones, all love romance. A guy who you slept with the night before and calls and just says hey i'm swamped today but you've been on my mind and i wanted to let you know i really enjoyed last night, catch up wtih you later.. that's romantic.

a guy who calls you and stalks you after you have just went on 1 date that wasn't even great lol it just wasn't horrible, that's creepy.

women, dream of falling for a guy. this is what they do. this is part of hte process.

in other words, if a woman you ****ed, flaked out on you the next day, it wasn't beucase you call. i promise you it wasn't because you called. in other wrods, do you think after a ****ing a girl, that you called the next day and she flakes, that not calling directly afterwards was going to be the difference in her sticking around or not? i seriously, seriously doubt it.

and hypothetically let's say that was the case. i mean, ****, you can't win em all and to me, that's a pretty good screening process. ****, do i WANT a girl who is so ****ing stupid that she can't respect the fact that i have a tad bit of manners and at least, like to call the girl who i came all over the night before lol? in short, if that is going to rub a girl the wrong way,k than that ***** is just going to get rubbed and she can go.

you can't, win em all. and hell, you don't want to. let these stupid flaky women weed themselves out.

And that's what you ultimately want - you want to break a girl's self-imposed ego down enough to where she realizes that maybe, just maybe, she isn't as much of the shiznit as she thought she was

after there is sex, there is no more games. she's played the big joker. you have to act like a man who is used to getting sex from attractive women

in other words, let me put it this way.. do you honestly think that the girl that ****ed your brains out the night before, doesn't KNOW that you are thinking about her even if you don't call? i know girls thougth about me even if they didn't dcall we just had sex how can you not be thinking about me?

so not calling a girl you just ****ed is the ultimate self troll. she knows you are thinking about her. it's not the act of calling that turns a girl off, it's the demonaor of the guy after he has gotten the *****, that can turn guys off. in other words, don't try to amp up the amount of time you see her, don't try to hurry up and schedule ****, don't forgot to go out on action dates just like you did before you had sex. girls aren't turned off by the call, they are turned off by the behavior that comes with the call.

Great post and exactly my thoughts. I think this is a lesson we have all learned as we come up in the game. Doing something nice automatically makes a person who is re-wiring their thought process on women think that the behavior is AFC AFC AFC.

I have a wonderful wife. never argues with me, does pretty much whatever i ask her to do, great sex, and she LIKES to have sex. i could not have asked for a better wife. seriously i couldn't have., earlier this week i had a really, really good day at the track, i surprised her and put 400 dollars in her car and called her when she got in it and told her to go knock herself out. couldn't wipe the grin off her face.

to make it even better, she went and bought a new pair of **** me pumps lol. attention/approval is like a drug. even when i give her money /extra money or tell her to buy ****, she buys **** that with the sole intention of getting more of my approval. that's how you do it.

 

[Harry Wilmington]

@Backbreaker Hey, glad you're a fan of my stuff! Allow me to respond to your response to my post on this particular wall...

For starters, I don't know if you got the chance to read OP's original posting about this girl and the whole story - if you have, great; if not, here's the link to it: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=199338

In summary, he met this girl at a college party; he made a date with her and she flaked twice (the second time being when her ex-BF showed up at her house and she cancelled while he was outside waiting for her); then wanted to make it up to him by having a date at his apartment that ended in sex.

Now, I understand about wanting romance and all... but romance is something that's EARNED over a period of dates. It's not something you just give out freely to every girl you take out right away; its something given to a woman as a result of her proving she's worthy of said attention.

Technically, these two haven't been on what could be considered a "real" date yet. She came over, they fvcked, she went home. Now, what part of that says "romance?" What part of this interaction would suddenly make her worthy of a next-day phone call? Next-day phone calls are made to girls who have proven themselves worthy of being cared for or thought about in that way; so far, she has 2 strikes against her record (i.e. two flake dates) and one sex outing that may or may not have been either a "revenge against ex-bf" screwing or a "I don't want to be seen as a bad person so I'll give him some" screwfest.

Now, the fact that she's saying she wants to see him again and left stuff at his place ARE good signs... but again, based off one lay after 2 bad experiences, calling her the next day isn't warranted. Remember, he GOT this chick after he layed off from talking to her a few days.

Guys think it's the end of the world if they don't call/text a girl immediately after everything they do with her. In the grand scheme of things, though, 2 to 3 days is NOT a long time. I dated a girl who called me at least once a day, and I NEVER called her unless I either missed her call or was planning a date.

During the times where I couldn't contact her for a few days in a row (i.e. on vacation, long shooting day on set, etc.), she was happy to hear from me even MORE when we reconnected. Which brings me to another reason why it's good to wait to call: to see if SHE herself is a psycho. I find that girls who insist on you calling them everyday tend to be the ones that are jealous, nosy, and are always questioning/second-guessing what their man was doing when she wasn't around.

I don't need a girl getting all nutso on me 'cause I couldn't contact her when she wanted me to - real talk, I once dated a girl who got mad at me 'cause my phone was off and she thought I was cheating. In actuality, I was in court all day waiting to testify against someone who had robbed my apartment. When I cut my phone back on during a break, I had a litany of text messages and voice mails of her crying/yelling/asking me to "be a man" and admit I was cheating on her. And I'm sitting there like, "really?!? All because I didn't call you for 6 hours straight??"

Anyway... in answer to the rest of your stuff: again, my opinion on the matter is based on my experiences. However, what I have found is that the more patient a guy is, the better his results.

Yes, a guy could try to call a girl the next day; but, in agreeing with your logic, much in the same way that a girl who likes him shouldn't get mad at him for calling the next day, that same girl should also not be mad at him if he waited a couple of days to call. And if she DOES get mad about it, it means that, on some level, she's controlling and mad that she's not currently the one in control of the situation.

How does she not know that he had other, more important things to do besides call her? Suppose they hooked up, and then the very next day one of his parents died? Or he got into an accident? Is he supposed to call her from the hospital that same day and be like "oh, before I go into surgery, I need to call this girl I went on a date with yesterday so she won't think I'm playing games??"

Of course not! And that's the point: a sane girl will be EAGER to get his call, but won't chastise him for not calling right away. It's one of the best sanity tests a guy can actually pull on a girl.

As for the whole "no games after sex" talk: eh, not true. Because, again, once you've had sex the girl may THINK she knows you're interested... but she doesn't know WHAT you're interested in (her, the sex, the ego rush it gave you, etc.) or at what level your interest is (high enough to call her, low enough to ignore her but hit her up for the occasional screwing)...

And, not every girl has sex for reasons that are pure. Oftentimes guys think that just because a girl agreed to bang us means we suddenly have her at our beck and call. Not true. Some sex because they're bored; or getting over someone; or wanted another notch on their purse strap; or felt ugly and needed someone fawning over them... I could go on, but the point is until you've been with them for a while, you don't REALLY know what, if any, game is being played.

I DO agree with your last statement on the subject, though: "girls aren't turned off by the call, they are turned off by the behavior that comes with the call." While I believe calling too soon can be part of this effect, I also believe that the reason these phone calls suck is because the conversation feels forced. They're calls being made by guys who feel they have to make them out of obligation, but really have nothing to say.

I guess my thing is, I don't like making calls for no reason. So, if I bang a girl, unless I'm planning on asking her out somewhere (or to come over again), I don't feel the need to make a call right away. Nor do I feel the need to have to make up a conversation, thinking it's going to build up their interest. I prefer building up their interest by not contacting them and letting them think about how good of a time they had the last time we WERE in contact together, thus allowing them to convince themselves that I'm worth seeing again. It's not everyone's method, but so far it's worked very, very well for me

 

[spiegel549]

The curve ball has been thrown!

My brothers...check this out...

So I am reading between Harry & Backbreaker and taking both of what you are saying and absorbing it in.

So this broad is due to come over tonight, she calls me 20 minutes before she is suppose to show and says "hey I don't mean to do this but...I get a bad vibe from you and I don't think I should come over."

I simply said, now were do you get this bad vibe from? We hung out once and haven't even gotten to know one another?

She replies with "well...I am dating someone else...and my grades aren't too good right now with school...and I dunno...I just get a vibe that you are corrupt."

I replied with "Nicole...I don't know were this is coming from. What you see is what you get with me. I am not looking to use you, I am not looking to take advantage of you, if you want to come over and talk in person and not over this phone then come over. I think its silly for you to judge me after knowing me for 2 weeks and only seeing me two times."

She goes "Ok...let me wash up and I will come over."

I just said "I'll see you in a little bit, call me when your here."



LOL....wtf!?!? She goes from saying "I can't wait for you to **** the **** outta me next time." To "I get a bad vibe from you."

Harry like you said, some broads just live for drama and this chick seems to be Mrs. Drama herself.

She should be here in about 40 mins. If anyone can tell me a solid game play please do.

I plan on sticking to my corner, and just being straight up with her. If she gives me any **** I am going to simply say "theres the door."

?????????

 

[backbreaker]

nope, this is on you.

this is exactly what i mean by

so not calling a girl you just ****ed is the ultimate self troll. she knows you are thinking about her. it's not the act of calling that turns a girl off, it's the demonaor of the guy after he has gotten the *****, that can turn guys off. in other words, don't try to amp up the amount of time you see her, don't try to hurry up and schedule ****, don't forgot to go out on action dates just like you did before you had sex. girls aren't turned off by the call, they are turned off by the behavior that comes with the call.

and for the most part, validates exactly what i was saying. You did the exact same thing that every other AFC does on this forum after a first date that wasn't horrible. execpt the only difference here is, she kinda likes you. but your entire mindset changed after you got laid.


sit back and think about the chain of events. you went out on a first date, and you had sex. you called the next day, you set up a meeting, rotfl, you didn't even pretend like you give a **** about spending tim e wtih her, you just said hey when can we **** lol. what is she supposed to do?


this is an extremely easy fix. you got 20 bucks on you? when she gets there say hey i got a suprise get in the car we are going somewhere. take her ass to basket robbins or something, just get out the house. she won't care what you do, she just wants to know that you give a **** more about her than for ****ing her. even if you don't lol.

even your booty calls don't like to be seen as booty calls. you can't be that blunt about it. I mean once you have seriously gotten in there that's one thing but you just met the girl. take your time, what's the rush. take her out, walk around a little bit, hold her hand, rub her back, kiss her on the neck.

there is cold approaching and PUA **** and then there is "game". the above is "game". you have to understand what a broad is thinking and why she's thinking it. it's not that hard to see.

this girl likes you. i'm sure of it. but slow down, even if it's for the sake of appearances. you have to learn tact. sex is gonna come and it's gonna come a lot but it's the conclusion of a great evening with 2 people who are feeling each other it's not something she must do to prove her love for you 2-3 times a week.

remember, she makes you happy,k you make her happy. she ****ed your brains out. let her get to spend some non sex wwith you learning about how great of a guy you are. and in turn she will **** your brains out lol. rinse, wash, repeat.

 

[Harry Wilmington]

Real talk: i have found the best way out these situations is to NOT give them the reaction they're looking for.

She's expecting you to refute everything she says because that's what all guys do. Me, i call their bluff. For example, if i were u, and she said to me: "I think you might be corrupt," i wouldn't be like "but i'm not corrupt 'cause of x, y and z!"

Instead, i'd be like "hmm, interesting... so, why do you feel this way?" Then, after she told me, i'd be like, "that's interesting. Well... if that's the way you feel, that's the way you feel. I was hoping we'd get to know each other better before making judgements, but it's all good. Here, let me walk you to the door." Then i'd wish her well and close the door.

Seems backward, doesn't it. But, i find that doing this normally amkes them go "wtf just happened??" Then, a couple hours to a couple of days later, IF they have interest in me, i find they're usually calling me back asking to hang out again.

Like i've said before, girl logic works in mysterious ways. Bottom line, you can't be too attached to the outcome. Dont get all mad at what she's saying and dont overreact, just act like you can take her or leave her - because, really, you CAN.

Hope this helps!

 

[spiegel549]

You guys are SOLID on your approach and THANK YOU for the quick response. She should be here any minute.

I see what your saying BB. I indirectly said "hey want to come over and **** again!?" lol no go brother.

When she gets here I am going to say "hey come on i want to take you somewhere."

Take her up the street to this nice little sushi spot (I know the owner) completely throw her off.

I understand she just screwed my brains out...It needs to be rewarded with an action date so to speak. Take her for ice cream something that doesn't say "Hey that was fun want to come over and **** again tomorrow!"

I will keep you all posted after tonights over...

 

[BeDJ]

This situation you got yourself in may be salvageable. DO NOT TAKE HER OUT TO DINNER. THIS WILL HIROSHIMA EVERYTHING YOU HAVE BEEN DOING RIGHT SO FAR.
What do you think the talk will be when you guys have dinner? You need to show her a good time and drop her off. I would take her out to bowling for a couple of games to take her head off the whole "bad vibe" scenario. This helps to keep the situation on the backburner and she may forget about it.

Be light and playful.

After, FFS, don't contact her for a few days.

 

[Trump]

nope, this is on you.

this is an extremely easy fix. you got 20 bucks on you? when she gets there say hey i got a suprise get in the car we are going somewhere. take her ass to basket robbins or something, just get out the house. she won't care what you do, she just wants to know that you give a **** more about her than for ****ing her. even if you don't lol.

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If a woman ****s your brains out, I am liable to say that she has earned a pat on the back or a doggy treat. you estbliash the reward system early on. you do something to make me happy I do something to make you happy. the AFC does **** to make her happy and hopes she does something to make him happy. But don't confuse doing **** tom ake her happy in general= AFC. lol that's not a DJ that's an *******.

On one hand you are saying she has Earned an ice cream (doggy treat) if she lets you **** her. On the other hand you are saying take her out of the house and buy her an ice cream just to spend time with her. Isn't that contradictory?

this girl likes you. i'm sure of it. but slow down, even if it's for the sake of appearances. you have to learn tact. sex is gonna come and it's gonna come a lot but it's the conclusion of a great evening with 2 people who are feeling each other it's not something she must do to prove her love for you 2-3 times a week.

If she "feels" you and doesn't give you sex to prove it, what's the point? Wouldn't it be better to have her not feel him and give him sex, than tell him she loves him and sleep with the other guy? As the players here say, its not what she says, its what she does.