The TRUTH as i see it

LeviathanIYG

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From the moment you come kicking and screaming into this world somewhere in the abyss of your mind you have the natural process of seduction stored away safely for when you hit puberty, But many years later when that glorious day arrives you **** your pants at the very thought of talking to an attractive girl.

Why? Why is this so?

Well open you eyes cant you see that dim light in the distance slowly drifting further and further away from you, that’s who you were meant to be floating away in a sea of confusion. Why? Why are you so confused? I’ll tell you why.

Inside every man there is a vicious battle raging. The battle between what you were raised to believe and your natural instincts and guess who’s winning? Social programming that’s who, advertising has us chasing cars, cloths eagerly awaiting the release of the new ipod so we can throw away half a weeks pay on it. We are so interested in hearing which celebrity is f**king which that we forget about our own sex lives. Porn is the new sex, MSN and IRC are the new ways to socialize, and every little greedy impulse that we are inspired to have can be quenched without leaving your house. No wonder socializing is becoming a lost art.

Half the movies we watch we see the chump come out on top and the winner losing. We are deluded into spending our lives searching for our soul mate our one true love so we can live happily ever after.

Then one day you find her your perfect girl the answer to your prayers, your very own dues ex machina. You shower her with compliments, kneel down in front of her and praise her for the queen that she is. Then what happens? Heartbreak she leaves you, but why?

In your wallowing dismay you stumble upon seduction sites and you find out all the answers you spend day after day, week after week, month after month reading the art of becoming a DJ, BUT GUESS WHAT?

Reading doesn’t make the DJ experience makes the DJ

So I don’t care if you have had your heart broken, if you’re a virgin, if you’re to fat or if you’re to skinny. Throw away all those destructive excuses right now and get out into the real world and SARGE.

This is your moment

This is your time to shine

Carpe Diem

Seize the day

Seize every day

Leviathan
 

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great post i was looking for sumtin inspiring to get me out der......this post is a kick in the ass thanks
 

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Good Post.

Unfortunately it's going to be buried by stupid threads.

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Great Post BTW... TV/Media is the reason for this... From a very, very early age, we have been brainwashed to believe women are a certain way and should be treated like X, and we are lucky to have them.

Get away from TV, live life more, an dyou will be suprised at how differently you look at things.
 

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That's what i was getting at TV/Media is a form of social programing. However it is more than just TV and meadia it's what our parents teach us ect

Get away from the TV, Internet and go sarge. That's the only way you will get women.
 

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there was a no wonder why all the time i spent at this site, I still was clueless as to what attracted women....and I see you guys are still promoting this don juan crap...just be yourself....the bottom line is this, why are we attracted to females in the first place? Because they are attractive right, why arent we attracted to males? Because we dont like that shyt right...okay, theres only two types of attractions going on between humans, and thats masculine attraction or femine attraction. Now, unless you are gay and hey, thats your life, but most of us here are attracted to feminity, females, and the most femine a woman is the more we are attracted. what I mean is, the more beautful she is, the more sexy she is, the more we are attracted to her, right? Now, isnt that natural attraction? I mean, the woman fixed herself up, put some makeup on, put on some tight clothes, and we got attracted....she didnt use no techniques or SS or ****y funny or try to be anybody but her natural beautiful self, right?

Okay, why do you guys believe that we have to be anybody but ourselves...why do we have to be a don juan, a what the fvck ever you guys call yourselves around here...

Women are naturally attracted to masculine men, men....who live in their testerone, it just glows through on him, and that is what makes a woman naturally attracted to you, unless you are a dyck head or your breath smells like crap, then she might not want you, but women are just as naturally attracted to men as we are to them.

So stop with all this crap, embrace the man inside of you, and dont be afraid of him, let him shine through......and remember, if you got laid, ****y funny, SS, or being an alpha male or don juan or a challenge didnt get you laid.........YOU got you laid by being and expressing your natural inner beauty and sexiness and for us, its our testereone, for them, its their feminity and physical looks.
 

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see I don't think it's just todays generation. I honestly think it dates back further than present times. Because acquiring good conversation skills IS a skill and it's something you learn to do. You get better by repeating actions, so your brain fine-tunes it until you can do it like a pro.

They say practice makes perfect and that is honestly very true. Your brain has to recognize the pattern because of the filtering that goes on. Your brain has to analyze so many things going on at once that it would be inefficient to store everything. So it stores and accesses the best, important things to insure survival.
 

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Each to his own.......

But did you read my post? I am simply saying get off the TV, internet and go Sarge instead of staying here reading and asking repetitive questions.

“embrace the man inside you” I didn’t say that……


Okay, why do you guys believe that we have to be anybody but ourselves...why do we have to be a don juan, a what the fvck ever you guys call yourselves around here...
The majority of noobs here only have a problem because they are being them selves right?

Women are naturally attracted to masculine men, men....who live in their testerone, it just glows through on him, and that is what makes a woman naturally attracted to you, unless you are a dyck head or your breath smells like crap, then she might not want you, but women are just as naturally attracted to men as we are to them.
Don Jaun is just a term used to describe a man who is successful with women. So the man with testosterone you described is a DJ right?
 

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Originally posted by Mr. Cardio

Women are naturally attracted to masculine men, men....who live in their testerone, it just glows through on him, and that is what makes a woman naturally attracted to you, unless you are a dyck head or your breath smells like crap, then she might not want you, but women are just as naturally attracted to men as we are to them.
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Yes and another important thing that women find attractive and sexy is a guy who can take a world populated with over 6 Billion people on it and live like it was all built for him.
 

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see the problem with this site is, and with a lot of information dating period, is that there is this deception going around that when you date the opposite sex, if you failed to seduce them, then there must be something wrong with you, thus, we get terms of AFC and chump and nice guy. But see the problem is, nobody takes the time to really understand and SEE what REALLY WAS HAPPENING. For example, say if you were to go on a blind date, now you like pvssy right? I hope you said yes....now, keep in mind you like pvssy, and when you meet your blind date, she is so god damn ugly and man looking that you cant even go on the date with her, you tell her you are sick and you call it off....now what happened here? You know you like pvssy, this woman had a pvssy, but what? Why didnt you go out with her? Ohhhhh, because YOU, YOU, YOU, as a MALE, was not attracted to her as a FEMALE. See, the ugly woman over there is not ugly on the inside, she is ugly to YOU, because she was not attractive to YOU, because YOU are attracted to women who look more femine, not women who look like bulldogs...so if this woman would have fixed herself up to look naturally attractive, and every woman can....she might have had a better chance with you...do you get my point.

We are attracted to beauty, because to be femine is to be beautiful, and thats what we like......nowwwwww, females on the other hand, are attracted to masculinity,

Testertone is what makes a man masculine, without it, hes not masculine, do you know why?

To be masculine means to be strong, aggressive, etc, you get that right.....how can one be strong without testerone? It is the testerone in the man that makes him strong, its why we are physically stronger than woman, most women that is.......

The problem is with majority of guys, is that when they get around women, they refuse to live in their testerone, just having that energy glowing from their presence....and without it, women are not attracted to you, because that is what attracts them to us, like its their beauty that attracts us to them..

yes women like dyck, just like we like pvssy, but just like you wont fvck that ugly chick because she grosses you out because you are not attracted, the man without testerone is just as grossed out to women.........

This whole thing is natural guys, when will you wake up and see that....these techniques mean jack shyt....be yourself, cry if you want, be sensitive if you want........as long as the attraction is there, she will be there too...
 

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Damm Mr. Cardio you're so confused and you don't realize it. Testostereone and estrogen hormones aren't the end-all-be-all. A male or female can have high levels of test. or estrogen, respectively, and be their natural self and still not be physically attractive (they could still be unattractive or have an asymetrical face) or their personality's unattractive to the opposite sex.

This forum and the techniques might not be able to help fix any given guys specific problems, but neither is necess. embracing your test. and being yourself is either. How do you explain all the guys that were being themselves and failing before they got here?
 

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Embracing your testosterone gets her attracted right? What if then on a stupid high on love impulse you stand out the front of her house singing love songs? Would she still think you’re cool just because you have testosterone?

Stealing a microphone and singing "I love you baby and if its quite alright I need you baby to warm my lonely nights" (10 things I hate about you style) WILL NOT GET YOU YOUR GIRL. No matter how much testosterone you have flowing through your deluded body.
 

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okay first of to keto, yes, women can have some higher amounts of test. than other women, the fact is, men base their attraction to women on physical attraction, women do not do the same to men. If you dont look like George Clooney, it doesnt mean women and the pretty women wont like you. Men are attracted to physical attraction because thats the way WE are wired, women are wired to be attracted to masculinity, or a man livng in his testerone. Please dont kid yourself, having nice muscles, wearin nice clothes, and combing your hair is what you should do to look presentable, but women are not attracted or turned on by that, its your masculinity...

To Levia, this is wht you said, and quote: Embracing your testosterone gets her attracted right? What if then on a stupid high on love impulse you stand out the front of her house singing love songs? Would she still think you’re cool just because you have testosterone?

Stealing a microphone and singing "I love you baby and if its quite alright I need you baby to warm my lonely nights" (10 things I hate about you style) WILL NOT GET YOU YOUR GIRL. No matter how much testosterone you have flowing through your deluded body.

You are missing the point, buddy and you are all wrapped up in being a DON JUAN, and following the don juan rules, that you need to relax and breathe a little.

Theres nothing wrong with being sensitive around your girl, writing poems to your girl, hell, even gettin beat up in front of your girl......its all about WHO is being sensitive, WHO is writing poems, WHO is getting beat up.

See, a lot of guys here believe that the don juan rules are what attracts women, just as guys on fast seduction believe it is SS and their patterns that get the juices flowing, and you both are far from the truth. Just as natural as it is for us to be attracted to Pam Anderson when she just walks in and sits down, its just as natural for a woman to be attracted to a man when he walks in and sits down. We are attracted to Pam Anderson because she is an ultimate female, I should say, she is very femine, and is very beautiful. Men on the other hand, are attractive based on the vibes they give off, the presence they give off, its all in their testerone.
A lot of guys here are afraid to be nice guys, and when girls come around, they all turn into some kind of alpha male don juan idiot, thinking they are all the stuff and when a woman does not acept them, they NEXT her, thinking they are all that....come on, give me a break. If she was so below you, you would not have approached her to NEXT her in teh first place, CAN WE JUST BE REAL FOR ONCE?

If you approached a girl and got rejected, it was not because you were a nice guy, it was because you did not show any maleness....period. This site and fast seduction makes women out to be chess games, and dating out to be a chess game, where you have to make the right move or say the right thing at a certain time to get laid........come on, give me a break. Its as simple as us, I mean come on guys.....does Pam Anderson have to be ****y funny to us to get a lay, does she have to use patterns, does she need great convo skills......no. She is female, and ultimate female, why do you think you just naturally like her, without even choosing too? The same happens when a woman sees a masculine man. He can be a thug, nice guy, gay guy, whatever......she still is attracted to him and it will show....period.
 

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I love it how you THINK you know me so well. You tell me I am a DJ (I know I’m a DJ) but I buy girls flowers, I pay for dinner I don’t cry in front of them but ey whatever floats your boat man. Yet without knowing anything about me you accuse me of being "caught up in the DJ thing".

I don’t know why you brought up what you did in this thread but it has nothing to do with what I posted. Let me help you out a bit with understanding my original post:

In layman’s terms I was saying

1- Get off your computer and TV
2- Stop making excuses
3- Go out and SARGE

Where exactly does testosterone come into this? Were does the generic DJ mindset of not showing sensitivity fall into this? It doesn’t what you are arguing has nothing to do with what I posted.

I think you have a lot of repressed feelings of anger and inadequacy. So when you see something you don’t like you just immediately shout out your opinion even though it has absolutely no place in said conversation. You’re the kind of guy that wants to be heard but nobody listens to…… I know the type

Oh one more thing........If you’re not a fan of the DJ way WHY ARE YOU HERE?

When you have something to say concerning my actual post then id be more than happy to read it. Till that time comes post your drivel some place else.

Thank you

Leviathan
 

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Fantastic post. It took me some time to realize that we do not live in 'Disney Land'.

And Mr Cardio, you're talking ****. Muscular isn't key. It may help but you do not need it to attract women. Weren't you the one crying a week ago or so?
I've got only one tip for you. And that is:
Get David Deangelo's advanced series, and keep going trough untill you fully GET what he's saying and untill you use them succesfully in life. Some people just try something, and they do it in the totally wrong way, situation or style. And then they blame the advice for their failure. And I think you're one of those.
 

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I also believe this is an excellent post Leviathan.

Mr. Cardio if you don't need any of the advice that guys are giving ,of thier own volition mind you, what the fvck are you doing on here?

There are some of us who have natural ability and are confident in ourselves. There are others who are not. I believe it's an obligation to try and help our fellow brothers get to a place where they're comfortable with themselves enough to go out and tackle the world and thier fears. It's chuckleheads like you that try to compensate for thier "inadequacies" by tearing down those who are extended thier hands.

Put up then shut up. Fvcker.


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