The truth about gaming White Western girls as a minority (pls read, srs)

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Dedicating this to the board since there seems to be a lot of talk about it.

If you don't read anything else, please read the last part titled "So what have I discovered about being a minority and trying my luck with White women?", you won't regret it.

Before I start I will answer this question, why do so many minorities out there want White women?

Simple, because most of the good looking women you run into, especially in upscale areas are White. It would be stupid to exclude White women and only go for women that aren't White, you will be limiting yourself. White women make up the majority in most rich areas from my experience. The blonde and beautiful look is found in most upscale areas. So in a way, us minorities pretty much forced to like girls who are White or at least open up to the idea of dating them. Then add to that the fact that White women are promoted more than any other race of women out there (magazines, movies, etc.).

Moving on now.

I am a good looking Latino male, pretty much a Mario Lopez lookalike due to my facial features (nose and eyes) and I have been in the game for a long time. Originally I am from Arizona but currently I am in Georgia. Now my preferences in women range from all colors and I have made over 500 approaches to date, so I know what I am talking about.

Growing up I was surrounded by women of all colors but usually the prettiest girls at my middle school and high school were all White. When I graduated it was the same way. I found this true at Arizona St and especially here at UGA. Sure you see good looking girls from other races too but White women outnumber them and it isn't even close. If you deny this then you have not been out before and are seriously living in an imaginary world.


Now more about my approach story.

When I started out I noticed that Black and latina women were very receptive to me (Black girls slightly more), I mean some would throw a fit when I couldn't go on a date with them and they would beg me to date them. I am not joking, most would beg me for the D.

Asian, Indian, Mixed race, and Arabic girls were receptive too but they didn't fall on their feet for me. If I ran my game right I could easily get with an 8/10 or above from any of the above groups and I mean what I say, I have no reason to bull****.

White women were a completely different story. I found that I had work much harder and walk on eggshells with them to have the same success I did with women of other races.

So what have I discovered about being a minority and trying my luck with White women?

I realized that the reason I struggled a lot with White women isn't because I was a minority
, it is simply because White women have higher standards than women of any other race. Have no idea where the idea of White women being easy came from but it is far from the truth. I find that White women overestimate their own attractiveness to the point where a White girl who is a 5 will act like she is a 9 or 10 (srs!). White women KNOW where they are in society and an attractive White girl KNOWS she is attractive.

A woman who is good looking, White, and somewhat privileged (not poor) is going to have high standards. Even average White guys will struggle with her.

I see Indian, Asian, Latino, Mixed race, and Black guys bragging about how White girls are into them but rarely in real life have I seen an attractive White woman with a minority no matter where I have gone. This doesn't mean being a minority is a disadvantage, it just means that attractive White women have higher standards than attractive women of other races. Yes, it is that simple and even White guys in here will see what I am getting at. All these guys who are minorities and bragging about doing well with White women are just making up stories to get online reputation. When I say White I mean American or Western, not Russian or German or Italian.

Now don't get me wrong, I have seen men that weren't White with White girlfriends and wives, truth is that she wasn't that attractive most of the time.

You see, an attractive White woman is at the top of the ladder in America no matter how much we want to live in denial over it. Society treats her like a princess and she can pretty much get away with anything. She won't date your average guy of any race (even White), she wants well above average. You need MORE than just game, confidence, and good looks to secure a long term relationship with her. You need status (especially if you are a minority).

So when you do see attractive White women go interracial, it isn't with a guy who has confidence or even looks added in. It is usually with a guy who is confident, decent looking, and has a nice salary or a lot of status.

So minorities (Asians and Indians do this a lot) complain about them doing bad with White women because of race, it isn't that, it is because White women just have higher standards than women of any other race and want a very high quality guy if they go interracial.
 

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Is hispanic even a minority? As you know lots of latinos are white complexity cuz of partial spanish european blood. Take argentinians for example. I consider latinos as part of majority in terms of dating ground, sh!t talk about minorities; asians, indians, brown folks, those are minorities. Blacks arent even minorities in dating game cuz they are part of mainstream america and also cuz they have media advantage. Anyways im curious how others think about ur opinion.
 
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A latino like Antonio Banderas or David Villa is White, Mario Lopez, Mark Sanchez, and Jay Hernandez are more mestizo and considered minorities.

LOL I just got hit with a neg that said Indian race troll when I clearly said race has nothing to do with how well you do with women.
 

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White women do not have the highest standards. They have to be the only race that I've seen that are receptive to every race. Actually black men are just as receptive to other races as white women are. Black women and latinas (in America) are the ones with the highest standards. I don't know where you've been living all your life, but it sure isn't in America.

Its extremely rare that I see a black woman date someone who isn't black. Latinas are a little less picky, and I've seen plenty date other latinos or black men.

Beautiful or not, all women feel like they're 10's and deserve only the best.
 

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I'm a black guy married to a pretty hot white woman. Though she's british and not american.

Here is the thing, you are mind fvcking yourself. Your thread serves as it's own self surving prophecy.

The simple reason most black guys , minoririties struggle with white women is beucase they LOOK UP to white women. the only reason white women " have high standards" is beucase you are setting them on the pedistool yourself with your post.

When i was growing up, I was a goo dlooking kid and I kept good looking black girlfriends. Never had a problem attracting black girls. Good looking black girls not getto black girls. I never though about it. I dated a white girl the first time when I was 17 years old and the reason I was able to get her interested in me was beucase I really didn't give a ****. I didn't even really see white girls as datable back then the thought really hadn't crossed my mind and I came off as very "what the fvck" ish lol.

It's only when i started THINKING about it that I started to mind fvck myself into AFCdom and it wasn't until i got fed up and said look here girl you are no different than any other girl i ever dated, you ****, you sleep, you give head, you *****, you complain, just like every other girl i ever dated, that i started to have real success with girls of all races (Expect Asians, they just don't like me lol). If i saw one i wanted to talk to i talked to them. If they don't like me beucase I'm not white that's their problem not mine. But usually that's not the case, if they don't like me it's just beucase they don't like me.

the reason why everyone calls posts like this, including myself who is a minority, troll posts is beucase it's a circle jerk. you think you are special and different or have a different set of circumstances beucse you aren't white and you don't. The reason you can't get the cute white chick at starbucks is the exact same reason why that beta male skinny white guy can't get the same whit girl. both of you are are over thinking it. you are just over thinking it for different reasons

It's basically.. lol hey i like this term, Racial based AFCism. you're not ****ing special.

And **** at the end of the day what can i tell you? the exact same thing i would tell every white guy on this forum. suck it up, go approach, keep trying. there s nothing else you CAN do. You rationalizing why white girls don't like you is no different than one of the keyboard jockeys rationalizing why society going to hell in a hand basket because of feminism.
 

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I'm going to nuke this thread.

Yes, white chicks feel superior is because stupid black, hispanics, asians and indians give their vanilla pvssy on a pedestal. The reason why the OP made this thread is because he is a beta faggot, just the same as all the other insecure fvcks out there. Oh, this pvssy has more value than the next is your retarded rationalization. Just admit that you are fvcking horrible with women and need to improve. You offer absolutely nothing to SoSuave, like you do to women. Why the fvck would they want to even want to date you?

Source:

I'm a minority and my dates are 80% white women. Fvck off.
 

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I wonder if you get paid to do this.... Ha Ha... Anywho, you have it wrong. It's the HOT girls who have the highest standards, and make things difficult for everyone. You're (still) focusing on hot, fake, shallow blonde girls, and that's how it is. They love the "hot" guys; bad boys and players; guys with money and status. And yes, they are stuck up princesses with an enormous sense of entitlement, and a demanding, self-absorbed, "high class" attitude. Nothing new here.

Dunno why you keep going on about it. It's the same for everyone. Doesn't matter if you "attract" them or not. They have prerequisite standards to even get noticed, and they're all very superficial in nature. But there's a lot of high class, fake bishes of other races, too.

People who have a lot of options, are considered hot or gorgeous, etc, tend to be picky and stuck up. They're also obsessed with status, etc. High class rolls with high class.

Landing them doesn't change who they are, either. They're still high maintenance, difficult to satisfy, annoying, shallow, indescisive, fleeting, and retarded. Not to mention, unfaithful. They have too many options and receive way too many offers to stick around past the "chase". It's non-stop with them. They don't have to settle, remain tied down, etc, so they don't. Most just play the field, wh0re around, and manipulate men - and complain about how unfair their lives are.

So, yea... GET OVER IT. Accept it.
 
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Eph said:
White women do not have the highest standards. They have to be the only race that I've seen that are receptive to every race. Actually black men are just as receptive to other races as white women are. Black women and latinas (in America) are the ones with the highest standards. I don't know where you've been living all your life, but it sure isn't in America.

Its extremely rare that I see a black woman date someone who isn't black. Latinas are a little less picky, and I've seen plenty date other latinos or black men.

Beautiful or not, all women feel like they're 10's and deserve only the best.
because most other races of men are not attracted to Black women, seriously, I have nothing against Black women but most Latino, Asian, Indian, and even White guys I talk to are not attracted to them
 
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You guys have obviously not lived real life. I have done over 500 approaches so until you do that don't even talk to me or post misinformation online. Sure it hurts to admit the truth but there it is.

Never in my life have I met Black or latina women who refused to date men because of their race. I have met and talked to tons of White girls who have rejected men for nothing other than their race.

Sure, keep lying to yourself and calling me a troll but the fact stands that White American women who are attractive are hands down the pickiest women out there. Doesn't mean I have failed with them, I have just had less success with them than other races. Nothing wrong with admitting that. Most minorities I have talked to have not had success with them at all.

Step outside your little bubble for once and live life, then come back and talk to me about it.
 

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The HappyShack said:
I am a good looking Latino male, pretty much a Mario Lopez lookalike
So why do you have a problem then? A good looking person of any race will get a white girl. And why do these threads keep starting up when clearly they're not well received and you won't get whatever advice you think will help you. People need to realize that race makes as much a difference as height, hair colour, build, personality type, etc.; what qualifies you with one girl will disqualify you with another. No "game" will save you there.

If you're determined to land a white girl, why not start going to salsa lessons/join your local scene? The white girls there are likely interested in the culture and the men and you'll probably have good luck there. All the white girls in my salsa scene love the latino men..all the white girls in the black ghetto scene probably like those dudes..all the girls at the gyms hanging around the free weight sections probably like meathead dudes...see where I'm going with this? It's not that hard to figure out who will "most likely" be into you.
 
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Because it isn't that simple. In most cases the girls who are White and fetishize a race aren't that good looking themselves (srs). I am talking about landing the gorgeous sorority girl, the blonde that turns heads, or the damn hot brunette. Those girls will be tough for everyone and much tougher to land than any girl that isn't White.
 

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The HappyShack said:
Never in my life have I met Black or latina women who refused to date men because of their race. I have met and talked to tons of White girls who have rejected men for nothing other than their race.
Well that may be the case and you'll have to deal with it. Why do you feel you're entitled to any woman you want? They have types too.
 

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Pedestalize them a little bit more The HappyShack.. I don't think you really presented how desperate every man is to be with a white woman. :crackup:

Truth be told.. white women (yes the hot ones too) are among the easiest to f*ck. Getting a relationship.. that's a different story. But since I don't give a sh!t about getting a relationship.. its not really an issue for me. :up:

Women and their "high standards" are all about positioning themselves above men as "prizes" that men must earn. Just because THEY see themselves that way.. it doesn't mean you have to. Even the hottest white woman's self-esteem starts to crumble when men only use her for sex over and over and over. The pump and dump is humbling. This is why we DJ's spin plates and only even CONSIDER a relationship with a woman if she has seriously proven herself.

This is the best way to reverse the over-inflated ego of your average female and bring her down to earth. Unfortunately most beta fag AFC's are to desperate for "love" to do it.
 
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Ya well, I have friends of all races that lift just like I do and look good, they themselves have admitted White women are the hardest to **** if you are a minority. Keep telling yourself differently and denying facts when they are slammed in your face. Most White women I know in real life won't even touch a guy that isn't White let alone sleep with him. You can keep watching interracial porn to tell yourself differently but real life works in a whole different way.

I don't want some guy to get the wrong idea. Sure there are White women out there who have Black man fetishes but here in the south you won't find it with the rich ones or the upper class southern belles, usually the girls are raised around Black people.

Though I will say, here at my university, as much hate PUAs might give to Asians and Indians, I see those two dating White women more than I see Black and latinos do for some odd reason.
 

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I'm not white and I have no problem at all with white females. I'm a mixed race latino (Native American, Spanish/German/Norwegian and West African). I find white females more likely to be into me then women of other races. I have a stronger preference for uber feminine latinas but to me they seem to be the more difficult women to get.

Oh and I have neither rock star status or confidence and I'm also broke as hell lol. I don't think I'm close to being the most attractive guy in the world and don't spend my time trying to fine tune my game. It is what it is.
 

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The HappyShack said:
Because it isn't that simple. In most cases the girls who are White and fetishize a race aren't that good looking themselves (srs). I am talking about landing the gorgeous sorority girl, the blonde that turns heads, or the damn hot brunette. Those girls will be tough for everyone and much tougher to land than any girl that isn't White.
Nothing new here... so why post about it (srs)? Gorgeous girls are tough for anybody to land... but here's the thing: they're not worth it when you do. They're used as trophies to show off and ONS' material for a reason. Why so obsessed with a barbie who you will HATE? Oh yes, you will hate them. They are horrible, unpleasant, difficult people. Doesn't make any sense (srs). Just to know you CAN land one? Feel good inside? Prove everyone wrong?
 

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The HappyShack said:
Ya well, I have friends of all races that lift just like I do and look good, they themselves have admitted White women are the hardest to **** if you are a minority. Keep telling yourself differently and denying facts when they are slammed in your face. Most White women I know in real life won't even touch a guy that isn't White let alone sleep with him. You can keep watching interracial porn to tell yourself differently but real life works in a whole different way.

I don't want some guy to get the wrong idea. Sure there are White women out there who have Black man fetishes but here in the south you won't find it with the rich ones or the upper class southern belles, usually the girls are raised around Black people.

Though I will say, here at my university, as much hate PUAs might give to Asians and Indians, I see those two dating White women more than I see Black and latinos do for some odd reason.
Hmmmm... Maybe your friends don't look good ENOUGH (ie, aren't considered "hot")? That's all most bishes care about. I still don't agree with the premise, but we've argued this enough times - and you say I'm not a minority, anyway.
 

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The HappyShack said:
Ya well, I have friends of all races that lift just like I do and look good, they themselves have admitted White women are the hardest to **** if you are a minority. Keep telling yourself differently and denying facts when they are slammed in your face. Most White women I know in real life won't even touch a guy that isn't White let alone sleep with him. You can keep watching interracial porn to tell yourself differently but real life works in a whole different way.

I don't want some guy to get the wrong idea. Sure there are White women out there who have Black man fetishes but here in the south you won't find it with the rich ones or the upper class southern belles, usually the girls are raised around Black people.

Though I will say, here at my university, as much hate PUAs might give to Asians and Indians, I see those two dating White women more than I see Black and latinos do for some odd reason.
FACTS slammed in my face like seeing interracial relationships with my own eyes?

Stop being a faggot and get over it. Either go f*ck white women (if that's what you want) or f*ck someone else because you're too much of a chump to pull the women you want. :crackup:

ATTRACTIVE men can get attractive women of any race. Don't project your own failures onto others. Speak only for yourself. YOU can't get attractive white women. YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU.

Don't EVER try to tell me what I can pull. I know what I can pull better than you bro.
 

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Lol all of these guys are bull *****. They say they do not have trouble getting white women, but they frequent a pua site and pof. Race does play a role in dating white women. Any white male that disagrees is a dumbass.
 

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