THE TRUTH ABOUT ATTRACTION.

D.Savage

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I have a couple problems with your arguments

First is that you are basing your importance on other people. A man needs status to get women? Or to be popular? Who cares about either of those? Being popular is for high school

Second is that you mentioned you are very attractive meaning you never really had to actually work like us averages Joe's have. You are clearly neglecting this detail. I would compare this to a white male trying to talk to a black person about racism.

Third is that your grammar and language suggest you just graduated high school, so anyone with an education will find it difficult to find your words credible.

And lastly, like your other threads, this is mostly a repeat of what is in the dj bible and book of pook in a much less eloquent tone, so what value does it provide?
I have a couple problems with your arguments

First is that you are basing your importance on other people. A man needs status to get women? Or to be popular? Who cares about either of those? Being popular is for high school

Second is that you mentioned you are very attractive meaning you never really had to actually work like us averages Joe's have. You are clearly neglecting this detail. I would compare this to a white male trying to talk to a black person about racism.

Third is that your grammar and language suggest you just graduated high school, so anyone with an education will find it difficult to find your words credible.

And lastly, like your other threads, this is mostly a repeat of what is in the dj bible and book of pook in a much less eloquent tone, so what value does it provide?
I stopped reading at "being popular is for high school" SMH
 

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@D.Savage This way of thinking will kill you over time. It’s draining and not empowering to anyone; you simply sound frustrated. And based on your wordy immature rant it’s not well thought out.

@ohrein said things well.

A guy can can possess swag, confidence, looks and other qualities then the second he opens his mouth the woman could lose attraction based on how he talks.
The fact you even say ‘swag’ shows you’re very immature to life and especially this realm.

Yes; people are attracted to confident, secure, good looking people over those who are not, initially. However that is such a small percentage of what attraction is and what will keep it afloat. You’re looking at this in a very shallow and binary manner.
 

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@D.Savage This way of thinking will kill you over time. It’s draining and not empowering to anyone; you simply sound frustrated. And based on your wordy immature rant it’s not well thought out.

@ohrein said things well.

A guy can can possess swag, confidence, looks and other qualities then the second he opens his mouth the woman could lose attraction based on how he talks.
The fact you even say ‘swag’ shows you’re very immature to life and especially this realm.

Yes; people are attracted to confident, secure, good looking people over those who are not, initially. However that is such a small percentage of what attraction is and what will keep it afloat. You’re looking at this in a very shallow and binary manner.
Agree to disagree

And maybe it will kill me over time but im 25 years old and its been doing me good so far.
 

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Yeah, all you can do is what works for you, what works for me and the people i know i guess wouldnt work for you.
Give a shoutout to the thread when you’re exclusive with a HB9 and some guy outgames your natural swag
 

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Give a shoutout to the thread when you’re exclusive with a HB9 and some guy outgames your natural swag
Well anybody in a LTR would have to have more than swag, were not talking about Long term relationships though, were talking about initial attraction and getting a girl into you without having to use pua tactics or "let me wait 3 days before i call her" or going on six dates and spending money ect.

We are talking about getting laid without having to jump through hoops or work for it simply because shes already into you. If you have never experienced it or have it then cool but that doesnt make it wrong, just might not work for you i guess.
 

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Well anybody in a LTR would have to have more than swag, were not talking about Long term relationships though, were talking about initial attraction and getting a girl into you without having to use pua tactics or "let me wait 3 days before i call her" or going on six dates and spending money ect.

We are talking about getting laid without having to jump through hoops or work for it simply because shes already into you. If you have never experienced it or have it then cool but that doesnt make it wrong, just might not work for you i guess.
Dude. Just provide the most value in all areas. Then you won’t have to jump through hoops as people want things of high quality. But don’t do it for external validation or with the expectation that women should be doing something. Of course people will choose the best option and not make that ideal person jump through hoops. Men and women
 

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Dude. Just provide the most value in all areas. Then you won’t have to jump through hoops as people want things of high quality. But don’t do it for external validation or with the expectation that women should be doing something. Of course people will choose the best option and not make that ideal person jump through hoops. Men and women
Right, i dont know if guys are misunderstanding what im saying but theres a difference between a natural and a pua, what im describing is being naturally attractive thats all im saying, i never said anything about not talking to girls or approaching women ect im just saying when you carry yourself a certain way women will instantly be attracted to you, now what happens after that is up for grabs, im strictly talking about initial attraction.

The other point i was making was guys need to stop beating themselves up when something doesnt go right with a women because its not healthy and its simply not there fault. As for the guys on here saying "i know a 5 who bangs 8s" well that just proves my point, because im 95% sure they had to chase and do allll kinds of things before he finally got her which is fine if thats what you want, but the guys i know who do the best with women are naturally attractive.

If you guys dont agree thats cool, but dont act like what im saying is wrong just because it doesnt work for you or the people you know. You say my way of thinking will kill me in the long run? Well maybe, maybe not, but its been working for me and my closest friends. Like i said, we can agree to disagree.
 

Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.

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Yep, the difference between cool and uncool.

Books could be written on defining the quality of 'cool'. I just take it at its face value - one is relaxed, not emotionally tense, self-controlled, in the present etc.
 

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Very good points......but when you have instant attraction alotta times they chase you and its much easier, you usually have the upper hand from the gate, when you have to build attraction, she has the upper hand(not all the time this is the case) but majority of the time since shes not already into you guess whos doing the chasing and jumping through hoops while trying to build up attraction?
Attraction is complex. To begin with, there are two parties involved [unless you are a narcissist]. It's a truism that you have to be attractive, to a certain extent, in order to attract a partner [and a belief in your attractiveness, to a certain extent, is no doubt an intrinsic part of this attractiveness]. But unless you are an Adonis, women will not flock to you.... however self-delusional you become. You'll still have to put your best foot forward, and toward a woman you find genuinely attractive, in an appropriate and masculine manner, if you want to see attraction gain some traction. More than cool, it also helps to be romantic.
 

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This 'attraction' thing can never be generalized for both the sexes. Some are attracted at first glance, some develop attraction over time. That's that.
 
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I stopped reading at "being popular is for high school" SMH
Yes you did =). Nice try though!

I recommend you work on educating yourself beyond your limited experiences and knowledge. Your in a very small bubble, and that bubble works for you, but it limits your understanding. Especially on a place like this where people come from all over the world from wide array of experiences.

Dont become blinded by your arrogance.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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In my experience, there are women who are 100 percent not interested, and women who are initially on the fence. It's your job to pull the ones off the fence and over to your side, and you do that by raising her interest level and ultimately, her attraction towards you.
Right. This is where game is needed. But if a girl for whatever reason doesn't find you attractive there's really little you can do (at least that would be worth any time and effort).

I think attraction does work different though for males versus females. A good majority of men (and I'll definitely put myself in this category) would be willing to sleep with a girl based on her looks alone and really if she meets a certain standard. This could be done without her saying a word (look at the amount of female prostitutes as empirical evidence). If a girl is physically attracted to a guy he still has to run some game even if its minimal.

Girls refer to guys being dogs because of this but it's all nature :)
 

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If she's an LTR girl it's going to take more time.
This is very true. I can cite numerous examples with men and women friends of mine where the woman said, "he grew on me (buddy's hot sister), we were friends first then got married (my super HOT hair stylist) I didn't like him at first (many, a few of my exgf's), etc., etc." Women have more to consider when having sex with a man or committing.

OP: Men are like blow torches, women are like ovens - as far as attraction and relationships are concerned. This is 100% proven and accepted. FWBs, ONS', Casual --"slow burn" doesn't apply here.
 

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So sometime you gotta just get your dyck wet . Put up this check for a perfect LTR and phvck that fat bytch or that ugly chick who wants to give you some.
When you fuuck a fat chick, a little piece inside of you dies.
 

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The truth is that when a girl is attracted by you, SHE will chase you. SHE will find excuses to be with you, to talk to you, to go out with you. SHE will be receptive to your kino. SHE will laugh at all your bad jokes. This is attraction.
 

Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

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