The struggle is hard

[ohrein]

I can't speak for everyone else but when I started to get into the pickup scene, I was a 4-5 with no fashion sense, terrible hair and hygiene and ZERO confidence. I'm more confused how someone who's an 8-8.5 could have ANY problems getting women. You're literally in the percentage cutoff for hypergamy, you don't have to do anything but not be weird. I'm like a 6.5-7 now and get girls around that as well but it took me a lot of effort and time to get to that stage. I'm not sure what use your post is to anyone.

 

[Pandora]

Days in 2018 3
Women I’ve slept with who I just met this year - 2

I don’t quite understand how a lot of individuals struggle with women in this forum, or even some of my acquaintances.
The market has never been better. It doesn’t take anything too special either.
I am about 6’2 170, athletic looking. Mid 20s, Fairly light African American. I have always been rated as around a 8-8.5 by women
I don’t try anything special with women. I don’t try to be “alpha” I don’t go to bars to pick up women. I see a woman. I get her number. Get her number text her. Text her and tell her I want sex. She says no, great. She says yes, great.

How hard is it really ?

A lot of guys on this forum get laid. Some of these guys have tons of experience with women. You can tell by the wisdom they share. I get laid a decent amount also. I can show text messages to prove it just like you did (I tried to post text messages up a few months ago but it wasn't working for me). Getting sex is not the hardest part. Its keeping them around that is hard. Keeping quality is even harder. That is the impressive feat. Finding a quality girl and keeping her. If you can do that then please share and teach us. I would be more than willing to listen.

We come here to keep ourself sane. There are a lot of very wise posters here that help explain female psychology. Studying female psychology is a study on the culture as a whole. This forum is just as much a " life coaching" forum as it is a "seduction" forum. There is a culture war being waged on the modern man and modern woman. We are just trying to navigate it. A wise man would soak up some of the wisdom shared by the older posters. Its pure gold. Especially the stuff on marriage.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

A lot of guys on this forum get laid. Some of these guys have tons of experience with women. You can tell by the wisdom they share. I get laid a decent amount also. I can show text messages to prove it just like you did (I tried to post text messages up a few months ago but it wasn't working for me). Getting sex is not the hardest part. Its keeping them around that is hard. Keeping quality is even harder. That is the impressive feat. Finding a quality girl and keeping her. If you can do that then please share and teach us. I would be more than willing to listen.

We come here to keep ourself sane. There are a lot of very wise posters here that help explain female psychology. Studying female psychology is a study on the culture as a whole. This forum is just as much a " life coaching" forum as it is a "seduction" forum. There is a culture war being waged on the modern man and modern woman. We are just trying to navigate it. A wise man would soak up some of the wisdom shared by the older posters. Its pure gold. Especially the stuff on marriage.

How is it easy? Seems pretty damn impossible to me to get regularly. I actually don't mind paying for it at this point because the girls are hotter, anyway.

 

[zekko]

I don’t quite understand how a lot of individuals struggle with women in this forum, or even some of my acquaintances.
The market has never been better. It doesn’t take anything too special either.
I am about 6’2 170, athletic looking. Mid 20s, Fairly light African American. I have always been rated as around a 8-8.5 by women

Those attributes you list put you in the "pretty spectacular" range. You do realize most men don't have these natural attributes going for them? I wouldn't expect someone like yourself to have trouble with women, unless they have some sort of deep seated personality issues.
Why would you have problems getting women?

 

[Trainwreck]

Tbh, you could be lying or you could be ****** goblins. I haven’t gotten any since August, but I could easily **** a woman below my standards right now.

 

[Epicurus]

I found a pic of the girl who was texting me yesterday about how the moon reminded me of her. Face is cut off because I’m not taking any chances.


Today I just piped this chick(second pic. Selfie.) beautiful face. Pic doesn’t do her justice. Met on tinder yesterday. Conversation went like this.
Me: hey you’re sexy
Her: aww thanks :*
Me: what are you looking for
Her: tbh I’m looking for whatever
Me: how does sex sound for whatever
Her: that sounds great to me
Me: send your address
*sends address*

 

[btownbuck2012]

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I found a pic of the girl who was texting me yesterday about how the moon reminded me of her. Face is cut off because I’m not taking any chances.

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Today I just piped this chick(second pic. Selfie.) beautiful face. Pic doesn’t do her justice. Met on tinder yesterday. Conversation went like this.
Me: hey you’re sexy
Her: aww thanks :*
Me: what are you looking for
Her: tbh I’m looking for whatever
Me: how does sex sound for whatever
Her: that sounds great to me
Me: send your address
*sends address*

Hope that second pic. is a joke.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

I completely agree. I just had some girl text me this. And then a few messages later say that I should take her out. Mind you she’s a , young 20 year old light skin, great body. Good job. Owns a house already.
Any guy who’s above a 7 shouldn’t have a problem doing what I do. Because I don’t do anything special. At all.

I’m literally trying to preach that what I’m doing isn’t elaborate or something genius
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Do you mean "above 7" in looks only? Or factoring in everything?

 

[logicallefty]

A lot of guys on this forum get laid. Some of these guys have tons of experience with women. You can tell by the wisdom they share. I get laid a decent amount also. I can show text messages to prove it just like you did (I tried to post text messages up a few months ago but it wasn't working for me). Getting sex is not the hardest part. Its keeping them around that is hard. Keeping quality is even harder. That is the impressive feat. Finding a quality girl and keeping her. If you can do that then please share and teach us. I would be more than willing to listen.

We come here to keep ourself sane. There are a lot of very wise posters here that help explain female psychology. Studying female psychology is a study on the culture as a whole. This forum is just as much a " life coaching" forum as it is a "seduction" forum. There is a culture war being waged on the modern man and modern woman. We are just trying to navigate it. A wise man would soak up some of the wisdom shared by the older posters. Its pure gold. Especially the stuff on marriage.

Nailed it ^ right here. Everyone on this forum should read and understand this post above.

I am still trying to figure out the OP's intentions here. If it's to prove to us that the better looking you are, the less effort it take to get laid with hot women, then bingo! That's amazing, thank you. We had no idea.

 

[Epicurus]

Nailed it ^ right here. Everyone on this forum should read and understand this post above.

I am still trying to figure out the OP's intentions here. If it's to prove to us that the better looking you are, the less effort it take to get laid with hot women, then bingo! That's amazing, thank you. We had no idea.

Some people just like to see the world burn, I am one of those people

 

[AriMamba]

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I found a pic of the girl who was texting me yesterday about how the moon reminded me of her. Face is cut off because I’m not taking any chances.

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Today I just piped this chick(second pic. Selfie.) beautiful face. Pic doesn’t do her justice. Met on tinder yesterday. Conversation went like this.
Me: hey you’re sexy
Her: aww thanks :*
Me: what are you looking for
Her: tbh I’m looking for whatever
Me: how does sex sound for whatever
Her: that sounds great to me
Me: send your address
*sends address*

I have had over 300 matches on tinder and I have only had fvcked 2 girls from there. You must be an adonis.