The Starter Wife

[Down Low]

A few years ago, I got involved with my ex psycho cluster b1tch. She soon got pregnant from another man -- and lied and said I was the father. After some months of having raw mouth sewage vomited onto me, I left. But I got soft and went back to see her after she had the kid. Turns out the kid couldn't possibly have been mine. We get back together, and the remainder of the relationship is an unending cycle of break up and make up.

There was a lot of really disgusting drama concerning other men. Short version: no money and no daddy duty from any other man. I was the guy who slept in the mom's bed more, so I became the kid's father figure.

Both the nasty cvnt and her bastard spawn were disposable to me. The last several months of the relationship, I was sleepwalking through life, unable to care about anything. Just completely detached from reality and wanting the days to pass.

However, the experience turned out to be very useful for me. I now think of her as a starter wife and the kid as starter family. Combined with what I learned from this site and the rest of the manosphere, I can put it to practical use in my efforts to reproduce.

Yet I have the nagging feeling that the next woman might turn on me regardless how much I screen. I want to have children, but I want to keep as many options open as possible so I don't get screwed over. What do you recommend?

Almost forgot. I'm willing to string along several women at a time, keep families in cities distant from one another, etc., whatever it takes to be able to walk from one bad situation without losing five or ten years of my life getting another family going again. I don't have enough years left to do that.

 

[speed dawg]

Having a little trouble following you here, but if I'm reading this correctly, it sounds as if you want to have multiple families and basically leaving them all fatherless a portion of the time. Which would be pretty terrible and renders you a fvcking sh1tball in my eyes.

Yeah, go ahead and just contribute more to the problem we already have in this country. Retard. You want to have your cake and eat it too, just like all the women we routinely b1tch about.

 

[Down Low]

America? You can have it. It's yours -- not mine. It was never mine. That was just some bvllsh1t sold to me by the powers-that-be. I'm dropping out. They made all the rules, and made it impossible to prosper for men who lived by the rules, so I'm not living by the rules any more.

You hate watching geto lyfe thugs leaving thuglets all over the place? Why? Because you're a man. You have a sense of justice. You hate seeing the bad guys flourish while the good guys get the shaft every time. Well, do you think I'm a drug dealer, murderer, or totally insensitive borderline-retard? No. None of the above. You've read my posts. You know I don't have some genetic defect that leaves me criminally insane, without the ability to empathize. You know that whatever time I spend with my children will be well planned, and far superior to those who dump their kids in babysitting (unisex soccer camp, Gurrrl Scouting, etc.). Besides, you're just assuming that I'm some kind of wannabe pick-up artist and haven't already done far more than my share. But even if I were, I'd still be right to drop out.

I'd really rather leave for greener pvssies, but can't afford to right now. The way the economy is, I might get stuck here for another decade. I refuse to wait. I've waited long enough. I most strongly disagree that paternity rights, and especially reproductive rights, are only for millionaires. It's "put up or shut up" time for me, and I'm sticking it out there... uh, in there.

 

[speed dawg]

I'm judging by the post written above, not previous posts. That was my opinion and it appears you are very bitter about things.

But to your point, American is whatever the people want it to be. I sort of agree with you, but I'm not giving up hope. That's why I'm looking to join the militia.

You're stance on kids is just dumb, though. Why not just fvck all the women you want to, but go volunteer at orphanages or something like that? If you love kids, go help them. You don't have to bring new ones into the world to be around kids.

 

[Down Low]

I'm judging by the post written above, not previous posts. That was my opinion and it appears you are very bitter about things.

But to your point, American is whatever the people want it to be. I sort of agree with you, but I'm not giving up hope. That's why I'm looking to join the militia.

Well, good luck and more power to you.

You're stance on kids is just dumb, though. Why not just fvck all the women you want to, but go volunteer at orphanages or something like that? If you love kids, go help them. You don't have to bring new ones into the world to be around kids.

I always say that the choice to reproduce is made as soon as she spreads and he sticks it in. Action > talk.

 

[speed dawg]

I always say that the choice to reproduce is made as soon as she spreads and he sticks it in. Action > talk.

I'll give you this. In this day and age, it's almost as if it's just accepted to fvck as much you want. As hard as it is to go against the grain, I do agree with your concept there.

 

[zenaddict]

when I saw the title "starter wife" I tought you were kinda cool

now as I read through your post I realize that you are an insecure b!tch locked in a mans body, you don`t deserve help even if I could give you

 

[GotED?]

Down Low - I typically look forward to your posts because they are usually more mature, eloquent, and expressed creatively.

However, this thread is pretty much junk. It just shows that you:

1) Have got fooked up too many times by women in the past
2) Biological clock is creeping up on your psyche
3) There is a smell of desperacy
4) Need some major inner work done on your trust issue with women (though that can sound like an oxymoron)

I personally wouldn't create and bring in a new life into this world unless I had given it my best attempt (if the b!tch turns out to be BPD-prone).

Having children intentionally and intentionally not give each of them your best in life is not really a good soulful place to be.

I have been where I love my child(ren) dearly but because of my refusal to be anywhere near the mother and the sh!t drama involved, I am forced to distant myself. If the woman could be removed from the picture, I would happily live a life just with my child(ren) without the female hamster involved.

But this world as we know it, like you said, does not operate for the fatherhood when children are involved.

Good luck.

With respect,

Exodus

 

[Down Low]

when I saw the title "starter wife" I tought you were kinda cool

now as I read through your post I realize that you are an insecure b!tch locked in a mans body, you don`t deserve help even if I could give you

OMG I'm not cool! The other kids won't play with me! Waaaah!!!

2) Biological clock is creeping up on your psyche
3) There is a smell of desperacy

The male line of my family is not being well reproduced. I have no confidence in the fertility of my relatives. I really never gave it a second thought, and went through life willy nilly, hoping to find a woman to have kids with, knowing I always had plenty of years left. But a few days ago I ran some fun numbers in Excel while preparing a post in another thread about genetic extinction. Low fertility is far and away the primary reason for male lines to end. All it takes is for one son to have only girls, another son to die young, and the second or third cousins to have a generation like that too. With such a feminist society, with the reproductive dangers of environmental pollution, with the economic duress of an empire in decline, fertility will continue to decline. The best way is always to significantly outbreed the most-fertile competitor groups.

That's just the way it is. At my age, I have plenty of time to do it, but I no longer have time to waste. Spinning plates is a good start. I'm going to fill those plates with tapioca pudding and see what comes of it.

1) Have got fooked up too many times by women in the past

4) Need some major inner work done on your trust issue with women (though that can sound like an oxymoron)

Yes, that's right, but it doesn't have any bearing on the issue. It's time for me to start pumping out some sons. Along the way, I can work out whatever issues can be worked out.

I personally wouldn't create and bring in a new life into this world unless I had given it my best attempt (if the b!tch turns out to be BPD-prone).

Having children intentionally and intentionally not give each of them your best in life is not really a good soulful place to be.

I have been where I love my child(ren) dearly but because of my refusal to be anywhere near the mother and the sh!t drama involved, I am forced to distant myself. If the woman could be removed from the picture, I would happily live a life just with my child(ren) without the female hamster involved.

But this world as we know it, like you said, does not operate for the fatherhood when children are involved.

Good luck.

With respect,

Exodus

Life is cruel, brutal, and short. No one gives a sh1t how I feel or what I do. So I'm going to do what I have to do, and feel good about getting it done.

Thank you for the support, men. Keep those ideas coming!

 

[sageproduct]

Down Low, no valuable input from me here, but I just wanted to say that I'm very sorry to hear that this happened to you and I hope things work out

 

[Down Low]

I appreciate that, sageproduct.

All in all, what I'm doing is not too different from this, and going back to do it again. The difference is, I'm cold-bloodedly planning to avoid: marriage, divorce, alimony/child support, lose the house-car-job-reputation, jail, just to wind up destitute and bitter at age 75 and still hoping to someday find a good woman to marry and have kids with before it's too late. Yes, let's skip the American Dream and go straight to the part where I take charge and accomplish reproduction.

 

[twentee]

oh gee. "my line" is going to end, and it's SUCH a special line. the species is going to die out without my wondeful genes, and the species is SO special, gag.ANYBODY can be well off here financially, if you will just discipline yourself and do the intelligent thing. So you are 40 when you have a kid and wife is 35, so what? By then, you'll have saved and invested the 1/2 milll it takes to raise the kid properly, without mooching off of the taxpayer and doing a horrible job with the kid (too). You need a nanny, so that you and the mom get a BREAK from child care, then you need a private school, so that you aren't mooching. All that means 22k a year, for 22 years. 1/2 mill. But you don't WANT to do the responible thing, cause you are an impatient flake, and you are too selfish to do the right thing and get a vasectomy.

 

[Down Low]

oh gee. "my line" is going to end, and it's SUCH a special line. the species is going to die out without my wondeful genes, and the species is SO special, gag.ANYBODY can be well off here financially, if you will just discipline yourself and do the intelligent thing. So you are 40 when you have a kid and wife is 35, so what? By then, you'll have saved and invested the 1/2 milll it takes to raise the kid properly, without mooching off of the taxpayer and doing a horrible job with the kid (too). You need a nanny, so that you and the mom get a BREAK from child care, then you need a private school, so that you aren't mooching. All that means 22k a year, for 22 years. 1/2 mill. But you don't WANT to do the responible thing, cause you are an impatient flake, and you are too selfish to do the right thing and get a vasectomy.

You did notice the Age: 53 next to my nick, right?

 

[LiveFreeX]

hit the phillipines or asia... being older is not a bad thing over here. I'm 10 years senior to my wife.. I'm sure you could bag a 25+ girl here. After 25, the local guys refuse to marry them, so its open season if you are an older gent. Bring a few thousands dollars with you and you can stay here at a foreigner rental place for like 500 bucks a month while you game girls... shouldn't cost you more than 600 bucks a month in total for food and rent. Well thats in Guangzhou and thats actually a little expensive...but whatever.

Also big ups to Mexico, thats a great place to hook up aswell. You can buy a house at 10k... it'll be about the size of a small 2 bedroom apartment and if you have 15k in the bank you can also get a work visa. I used to live on about 2500 for 6 months.

 

[goundra]

$500 a month rent in PHIILS? that's ridiculous. I can rent a REALLY nice room here in, part of the US for that sort of money. Try $100 a month, and probably get fed as part of the deal.wtf does anyone CARE if they have kids or not, anyway? Look, dude, if you are 53, it's OVER for you, about the kids. you'll be dead or all screwed up, just when your wife needs your help the most with those kids, when they are 15.

 

[Down Low]

wtf does anyone CARE if they have kids or not, anyway?

People who don't want kids are damaged merchandise. Consider how much it would mind-fvck a child to grow up around parents who don't care if he was there or not.

Pregnancy, birth, and child rearing are the normal outcome of repeated coitus. Mass abortifaction is an invention of 20th Century death culture. Normal psychology is not based on treating sperm as pathogen to be "protected" against, or the birth canal as a running sewer for dozens of men to relieve themselves into.

Look, dude, if you are 53, it's OVER for you, about the kids. you'll be dead or all screwed up, just when your wife needs your help the most with those kids, when they are 15.

Whether I live 15 more years, or 15 more seconds, I'll never be as screwed up as you are right now. Hatred of living things is a cancer that's eating you up inside. You desperately need to move to some remote Philippine island without electricity, and don't even have a radio. Just farm and fvck your wife.

 

[SamTheHobit]

I say go for it down low.

 

[SamTheHobit]

I'm actually thinking of getting a girl pregnant here in South Africa and just leaving back to the states to never be heard from again.

I've been fvcked over so much that I feel I'd gain something from doing something extremely "selfish".

 

[LiveFreeX]

You know south africa is just another 'western' country. We have a lot of guys over here trying to escape the scourge of South African women. You'd be better off dating a woman from NORTH africa.

Pregnancy, birth, and child rearing are the normal outcome of repeated coitus. Mass abortifaction is an invention of 20th Century death culture. Normal psychology is not based on treating sperm as pathogen to be "protected" against, or the birth canal as a running sewer for dozens of men to relieve themselves into.

We may often disagree Down Low, but I'm really glad to hear you say that. Its a very refreshing and healthy point of view... I don't know how to give rep points.

 

[goundra]

it's either limit birth rate, or see Nature DRASTICALLY increase the death rate, cause the world just aint GOT and never will have, the resources to keep up with human predation upon them.