The Self Improvement theory

[everywomanshero]

It's fairly obvious that self-improvement will usually make one more attractive to women. However, I believe a fallacy has arisen in some circles that seems to paralell the Zahavi truth in advertising theory. That is to say that dishonesty will be detected by females.

If this were the case, then marketing companies would be bankrupt, and someone like me couldn't go out and swoon women away from guys with larger bank accounts and biceps. Thankfully, this is not the world I've found myself living in.

I am an advocate of self-improvement myself. However, I would say that learning methods to meet and swoon women is a form of self-improvement rather than a means of avoiding self-improvement.

The older technologies were replaced because they did not work as effectively. This caused the few people who field test to favor the best methods. The best methods have now been verified and are starting to make much attention.

If the goal is to get a bigger bicep, then lifting weights and correcting diet is the fastest way to achieve that goal. However, if the goal is to meet and sleep with more women it makes no sense to first get a bigger bicep. This is an excuse to avoid the dreaded approach anxiety that occurs in the first few months of PU and can only be reduced by frequent approaches in rapid succession. The same # of approaches over a long period will still not produce results.

Additionally, I wouldn't go so far as to say methods are dishonest, but rather a focused way of improving specific skills. Almost all methods take time to master.

 

[flippinfreak]

I don't know anything about the Zahavi truth in advertising theory, but it's on my list of marketing theories to study. I think bringing it up on this site without extending full understanding is a waste though. This is why I personally believe the best seducers in the world, are those who don't care about learning how to seduce. Why is that? Because they don't go off reading theory's and apply them to seduction in a KBJ method hoping to accomplish the specific goal of reasoning with excuses.

On another note, I believe females are more accustomed to the wiles of dishonesty. I recognize and can look back on the petty dishonesty I used back when I was peaking as the ultimate AFC. I can look back to yesterday, and recognize the advanced decptive conversation tactics I use that rival my previous mindset.

THere are times when women accept lies, invite them, and hope that the lies become so large that they can unravel the lie with a single tug. Some women know that certain specific lies are best left unanswered, because exposing the lie would destroy the liars self esteem. As I said, I don't know the Zahavi theory, in terms of business, this would be people with relative interests, both parties have an element of benefit riding behind the success of any lie.

Is there anything in the theory pertaining to acceptable limits of a lie?

 

[diablo]

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[A-Unit]

Re:

Here's the penultimate of man vs. AFC. A man has no fear in his pursuits. Period. The AFC feels his desires are unnatural, that he uses trickery to gain her attention, and that he HAS to use trickery to get her. The MAN knows his value to be inherent, and is not VALUED by anyone outside of that. He does not care what people say, because most people don't care what they think, and most people's thoughts are a compilation of information and opinions from OUTSIDE of themselves. They are not their own.

It, to me, isn't improvement, rather awareness. It's as if ALL lived a life as a chicken, when they were really a beautiful eagle able to fly, instead of serve as fodder for the big-wigs and wolves who would easily consume you. Women can't detect that, because there's NOTHING to detect. You're not doing anything underhanded. You want a woman plain and simple to want her from the pureness of being a man, and what better way would a woman desire to be wanted?

The scales can only tip so much before the wanting is a sacrifice of oneself. A want of any sort of this nature is worthless, useless and should not be had.

If you become "aware" that it's ok, expected, and most don't "get it", then women will swoon. You make no apologies. It's like PLUS and MINUS, or A is A, it is what it is. Men + Women = Life. There isn't anything else. Guys who feel they use motives, trickery, or devices to gain her attraction, inherently feel they have a ZERO value as it relates to her. We're all ZEROes, wanting to be with another.

It's like a boy becoming a man. He understands his role, his position, his responsibility. As a result everything he does is an action OF that position. It's not feigned, fake, or contrived. Boys today are "playing" like men, but aren't men as much. Normally a man bestows his confidence in his becoming a man upon the boy, like joining a fraternity, and his "hazing" is the trials and tribulations of youth, adolesence, of failure, of being a teen and making tough decisions. Circumventing that short circuits the whole process, perhaps forever.

I have loads of "material" within arms reach of my bed, and it's never been an issue. I also have lots of book shelves @ my place, and if girls see that, maybe they think "dork", but they also know I'm serious about success. There isn't much a girl can say, except be immature and "try" to insult, or even call me out. It's not hard...we're just trying to become more, be better than we are, and grow. Wouldn't a woman want to be with a man like that? Or would you rather have tons of Porn strewn around your place?

That works too, but porn is desperate in the absence of true forward force. It's like sitting in rocking chair. Point is, for the young guys, the programs, material, etc, do what we can't do, self-discovery. I can't do it for my cousin, but maybe he'll become great with women, OR, he will read, or suffer. Needless to say, SELF EDUCATION is the most meaningful. It's what sticks. You learn at your pace. You discover. Awaken. Open up. Think. And then you change, because you want to.

A-Unit

 

[So Many Ways]

What annoys me is the whole attitude that I've seen here whereas you have to do this, that and the third before you can get women. You have to make 6 figures. You have to have cool hobbies. You have to have degrees. You have to bench 3 plates, blah blah blah.

Those things help, but they're not guarantees that women will now all of the sudden will bow down at your feet. Unless you're rich and flaunt it, you're famous for something or you have male model good looks, you'll have to learn somewhere down the line to deal with women and that includes that hard work of cold approaching and learning social skills. There's no way around that.

Any self respecting man will have goals and will desire success. However if you do that hoping that women will pop out of the woodwork and start handing out blow jobs, you'll be disappointed. Instead the unemployed pothead who lives with his mama will get the girls you should get because you didn't put in the necessary work.