The rise of the gymcel

[CornbreadFed]

 

[corrector]

That's a bit of a dishonest clickbait. He's not really talking about "gymcells" about about male lonliness. I've checked the headings underneath the video, and he broaches topics like third places and parasocials, and of course there is a modern trend where people can be more isolated and just interacting with media.

However, this has nothing to do with going to the Gym for self-improvement. In fact, you are actually leaving the house to go the Gym, would be counter whatever this video is talkign about. If you have a better looking body then you would feel more motivated to want to socialize since you should be getting better connections with women, and even people in general that are out there. It has not raised any arguement that going to the Gym is a red-pill cope.

@All_Kindz_Of_Gainz and @Hamurabimbi are examples of posters who have gone to the GYM to improve their body and find that it's easier to socialize because women, and people in general, are more receptive to him and that in turns motivates them to socialize more like a positive feedback loop.

 

[corrector]

The issue with gymcels is that they get jacked but still in their minds they still see themselves as fat unattractive guys (it happened to me), and if you only have the gym then that's nothing.

Being fit is only one part of attraction and if those men don't approach, is the same as being fat and staying in the house.

This happened to you? I figure out as much. You are not going to turn into an instant celebrity and expect to get a tonne of IOIs out there because you've improved your body.

At the same token, if you were like this, what caused you to change from that poor self-image once you did get jacked (ie or whatever body you wanted). I mean you must have noticed a gradual increase in IOIs within the process of getting your body into shape? Did that help change the way you saw yourself over time?

 

[BaronOfHair]

@All_Kindz_Of_Gainz and @Hamurabimbi are examples of posters who have gone to the GYM to improve their body and find that it's easier to socialize because women, and people in general, are more receptive to him and that in turns motivates them to socialize more like a positive feedback loop.

Yep.... Our fortunes tend to be enriched when we go out into the world among our fellow human beings, rather than binging Manosphere content, the likes of which "teaches" men that The Gynocentric New World Order is lurking around every corner, desperate to pull the rug out from under their/our feet

 

[Gamisch]

The issue with gymcels is that they get jacked but still in their minds they still see themselves as fat unattractive guys (it happened to me), and if you only have the gym then that's nothing.

Being fit is only one part of attraction and if those men don't approach, is the same as being fat and staying in the house.

Still any man is better off if he starts working on a great physique yesterday rather than tomorrow.

You need:
- finances
- body
- mindset.
-wardrobe/style / car ect.

All of them take a shyteload of work and non of them will come overnight. Same thread could be made for "finance cells" or mindset cells". The art is to simultaneously make all of them grow.

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

I believe we're looking at the "problem" with the wrong set of glasses.

Gym cells are often times normal everyday guys that cant fit in current society cause they either lack the current minimum threeshold of LMS required for men to be decent treated or simply are so "man minded" that current day social norms which are made to accomodate women, are alien to their toughts and habits.

I cant find anything more man mind friendly that the gym nowadays since it's basically a long term plan, with clear daily actions in terms of training, dieting and life style that in the long run gives you benefits and allows you to reach a certain goal.

The masculine brain doesnt compute socializing for the sake of it unlike the feminine one which is why for example why guys dont call the guy friends just to talk with no message or request to share.

 

[MatureDJ]

This has been a meme for quite some time:

Gymcel

A gymcel is an incel who works out, believing that a muscular body will compensate for an unattractive face. Gymcels will often spend countless hours in the gym...

incels.wiki

 

[zekko]

@All_Kindz_Of_Gainz and @Hamurabimbi are examples of posters who have gone to the GYM to improve their body and find that it's easier to socialize because women, and people in general, are more receptive to him and that in turns motivates them to socialize more like a positive feedback loop.

Exercise and a good diet are always going to be beneficial, especially for health reasons. It's always better to be in shape than not. But working out is not going to result in dramatic success with women for every guy. It will for some guys. A lot depends on what exactly is holding each guy back, what his stumbling block is, which can vary a lot. For some guys, going to the gym will answer almost all his problems, for other guys not.

As you say though, it is a change in a positive direction. But what about guys who have been going to the gym for years before finding the manosphere? The one size fits all "Get in the gym" advice doesn't do much for them, does it?

 

[Hamurabimbi]

That's a bit of a dishonest clickbait. He's not really talking about "gymcells" about about male lonliness. I've checked the headings underneath the video, and he broaches topics like third places and parasocials, and of course there is a modern trend where people can be more isolated and just interacting with media.

However, this has nothing to do with going to the Gym for self-improvement. In fact, you are actually leaving the house to go the Gym, would be counter whatever this video is talkign about. If you have a better looking body then you would feel more motivated to want to socialize since you should be getting better connections with women, and even people in general that are out there. It has not raised any arguement that going to the Gym is a red-pill cope.

@All_Kindz_Of_Gainz and @Hamurabimbi are examples of posters who have gone to the GYM to improve their body and find that it's easier to socialize because women, and people in general, are more receptive to him and that in turns motivates them to socialize more like a positive feedback loop.

For me. the hitting the gym caused a loss in BF. I have a good jawline & cheekbones. So the loss in BF brought those out. That, way more than any bodymaxxing, raised my SMV.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

This has been a meme for quite some time:

Gymcel

A gymcel is an incel who works out, believing that a muscular body will compensate for an unattractive face. Gymcels will often spend countless hours in the gym...

incels.wiki

So true. I have literally received about 2 compliments on my body in my life (I have a pretty decent body). But ton’s of facial compliments.

 

[zekko]

I have literally received about 2 compliments on my body in my life (I have a pretty decent body). But ton’s of facial compliments.

I don't know if I have ever been told "You have a nice body". Comments have tended to be more specific about parts (nice legs/arms/stomach/butt, whatever). Not many compliments on the face really, only vague comments like handsome, cute, easy on the eyes. Most common is probably something about attire, like "nice shirt" or "I like your shoes". I wouldn't say I get a ton of compliments though.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I don't know if I have ever been told "You have a nice body". Comments have tended to be more specific about parts (nice legs/arms/stomach/butt, whatever). Not many compliments on the face really, only vague comments like handsome, cute, easy on the eyes. Most common is probably something about attire, like "nice shirt" or "I like your shoes". I wouldn't say I get a ton of compliments though.

Some are vague.
Literally yesterday, I bought a ice cream bar and the cashier was super chatty. As I was leaving she said: ‘You look nice.’.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

These guys are doing it for the wrong reasons...they are doing it for someone else instead of themselves. That's the crux of the problem.

 

[corrector]

Exercise and a good diet are always going to be beneficial, especially for health reasons. It's always better to be in shape than not. But working out is not going to result in dramatic success with women for every guy. It will for some guys. A lot depends on what exactly is holding each guy back, what his stumbling block is, which can vary a lot. For some guys, going to the gym will answer almost all his problems, for other guys not.

As you say though, it is a change in a positive direction. But what about guys who have been going to the gym for years before finding the manosphere? The one size fits all "Get in the gym" advice doesn't do much for them, does it?

Agreed. At the very least, if you have not gymmaxxed or looksmaxxed then you don't know if you are one of those guys. But it sounds like a crazy investment to find put, esp if you are already over the hill.

 

[BaronOfHair]

This has been a meme for quite some time:

Gymcel

A gymcel is an incel who works out, believing that a muscular body will compensate for an unattractive face. Gymcels will often spend countless hours in the gym...

incels.wiki

Just a contemporary, jargonized way of describing a fella as a dunderheaded jock, who's life revolves solely around lifting and whatever sport he's playing then

What so many have noted here was just as true back in high school as it is today... Plenty of guys played on (Insert school team), yet most weren't catnip for the ladies. A guy still needs personal magnetism

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

A guy still needs personal magnetism

Is this where the chick magnets come in?

 

[zekko]

As I was leaving she said: ‘You look nice.’.

Wow, can't get much vaguer than that. Definitely a positive though!

But it sounds like a crazy investment to find put, esp if you are already over the hill.

Well, there's no downside to being in shape. But it's like having money, it's its own reward. I just don't think either one is going to be a magic bullet for every guy when it comes to attracting women.

 

[corrector]

Well, there's no downside to being in shape. But it's like having money, it's its own reward. I just don't think either one is going to be a magic bullet for every guy when it comes to attracting women.

There are different levels of being in shape. In shape can mean 24% bf and a decent weight, but it's not going to be a chick magnet with those numbers, especially if you are older and bald going in.

On the other hand, it feels like you have to be jacked with a chiseled face (ie if there are good features to come out by losing fat) at a 12% bf to met a threshold of getting more good quality IOIs out there and being more attractive. It would sound to me that someone who is a serious gymceller/lookxmaxxer and went all the way would be like 8-10% bf and get jacked with definied muscles, etc.....

Both are staying in shape and have different commitments and motives. I don't think being ripped with 8-10% bf is in the cards for me with the current oppressive set-up I have here, let alone even a milder commitment towards 24% bf, but at least that would sound more doable than going that far.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Well, there's no downside to being in shape. But it's like having money, it's its own reward.

The thing is, anything you do will be an investment of time + energy (+ money), so you should choose your type of exercise well to make sure it's balanced and you get out more out of it than you put into it.

This is why I don't frequent gyms, because I cannot stand having to do reps and I'm not interested in 'sculpting' my physique. I'm not vain enough to measure my biceps, I'm more interested in being healthy and flexible and trim, so my exercise is riding a bicycle around town (where I often meet interesting women), swimming laps at a public pool (where I often meet interesting women), and oldskool weapon-based martial arts (where I often meet interesting women).

So in order to stay healthy, fit and trim, I do fun activities that as a bonus give me an opportunity to interact with interesting women.

If the gym does that for you, enjoy.

I just don't think either one is going to be a magic bullet for every guy when it comes to attracting women.

There is no magic bullet.

I remember how a guy from my social circle told me that maybe he should also grow his beard and don an eyepatch, seeing how successful I was with the ladies. I told him that women might initially interact with me because I stood out from the crowd, but they wouldn't keep interacting with me if I wasn't good company as well.

Attraction is a combination of factors. Having a good body might make some men stand out from the crowd (depending on your social circle), but I think those men should work on being good company while they exercise. Maybe read a book or something...

 

[MatureDJ]

Just a contemporary, jargonized way of describing a fella as a dunderheaded jock, who's life revolves solely around lifting and whatever sport he's playing then

What so many have noted here was just as true back in high school as it is today... Plenty of guys played on (Insert school team), yet most weren't catnip for the ladies. A guy still needs personal magnetism

Kegger Kavanaugh played linebacker at an all-boy's high school, and evidently it didn't help him ascend at all - he still had to try AggressionMaxxing, and that certainly didn't help with that chick that got him into so much trouble decades later.

Brett Kavanaugh

Brett Kavanaugh was formerly an incelibate, and is currently a Supreme Court justice for the USA. According to him, he experienced inceldom throughout his teens...

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