The Real Reasons Young Straight Men Aren't Having Sex

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Sex among young men is declining – and the things holding them back from physical intimacy are more complicated than you might think.


Peter, 31

“I’ve probably been in the position where it feels like sex is inevitably on the cards, and self sabotaged between 10 and 15 times,” he says. “When trying to impress a girl I will either directly lie or insinuate that I am quite experienced in bed and then I feel scared that they will notice that I’m not when it actually comes to it, so I self-sabotage.”

“I need to feel absolutely beautiful to even think myself good enough to speak to a woman I’m very mildly attracted to,” he says. Yet, his low self-esteem often stands in the way of this.

Mike, 23,


He tried to overcome this by pursuing the usual route of meeting people through dating apps, without any success. So, a year ago, he just gave up. “I realized I wanted external validation when I didn’t even have internal validation – so that became more important to focus on,” he says. “Constantly trying to date was a reminder that I wasn’t in a relationship.”

Jacob, 24

He was never good at talking to girls,
noting a similar lack of confidence as Peter and Mike, coupled with what he perceives as a lack of bravery in approaching women. “I got used to pleasing myself while watching porn, instead,” he says. “It felt easier, more safe.”
But the porn Jacob was viewing only further dampened his self-esteem. “After watching porn, I got even less confident because all the guys there were much bigger than me,” he says. “I felt undeserving of girls, thinking that even if I could somehow [end up in] a sexual situation, I would disappoint my partner, anyway.” At first, this belief made him angry – not at women, he says, but at the situation he’d been given. But now, he says, he’s at peace with “Just admiring the girls [in porn] and watching other men with them, instead,” he says. “It feels right.”

Chris, 26


Also standing in the way of Chris’s sex life is a lack of time and money. It’s unsurprising, then, that the instant gratification that porn provides is an appealing alternative. With porn fulfilling his biological urge for sex, there’s little incentive for Chris to pursue real, person-to-person intimacy. He says that now, “it can be hard to get hard” with things that aren’t porn. For better or worse, the Internet offers a nearly endless catalog of new content to pique his interest in ways the real world seemingly can’t.

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This sums it up. We have seen this drawing on this forum before. Its not new to many of us. And since 2015, women are getting even all the more picky. IMO I think a lot of men are just giving up on trying because it is so difficult for many of them, plain and simple.

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This sums it up. We have seen this drawing on this forum before. Its not new to many of us. And since 2015, women are getting even all the more picky. IMO I think a lot of men are just giving up on trying because it is so difficult for many of them, plain and simple.

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The issue is not even being the 4rth or below and not getting S, the issue is that even if you are the third, you're getting sub optimal options and probably at a great cost in terms of effort.

Add to that the current state of the dating market...a 20 yrs ago average woman in terms of looks and personality would be a top 20% today.
 

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Also standing in the way of Chris’s sex life is a lack of time and money. It’s unsurprising, then, that the instant gratification that porn provides is an appealing alternative. With porn fulfilling his biological urge for sex, there’s little incentive for Chris to pursue real, person-to-person intimacy. He says that now, “it can be hard to get hard” with things that aren’t porn. For better or worse, the Internet offers a nearly endless catalog of new content to pique his interest in ways the real world seemingly can’t.

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I think "Hard to Get Hard" would be a nice country song parody, that's what I think.
 

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The issue is not even being the 4rth or below and not getting S, the issue is that even if you are the third, you're getting sub optimal options and probably at a great cost in terms of effort.

Add to that the current state of the dating market...a 20 yrs ago average woman in terms of looks and personality would be a top 20% today.
Yea, it's gone down. A lot less desireable women today. More tats, piercings and fatter, a lot fatter.
 

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When 95% of “available” single females are overweight, that 5% of normal bodies women jumps in smv by like 3 points.

Personally, I have prioritized a not only slim but fit physique in women. I’m any case yea the game is rigged.

And we wonder why so many men fetishize Asians? 85% of their women are normal weight.

Shrug, bananas are also yellow.
 

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Why focus on the losers? Guarantee none of those guys interviewed have ever even cold approached a woman LOL plenty of guys out here banging regularly - the ones who dissociate from mainstream advice and learn about game and gender dynamics
 

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Someone better tell them that it will only get worse as they're aging....

But these stories are horrific...imagine not going after the thing you adore the most. Like what, they got a contract with God they will be reincarnated and live a second life?

And the harshest part is nobody in DatingLand will ever miss them...
 

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When 95% of “available” single females are overweight, that 5% of normal bodies women jumps in smv by like 3 points.

Personally, I have prioritized a not only slim but fit physique in women. I’m any case yea the game is rigged.

And we wonder why so many men fetishize Asians? 85% of their women are normal weight.

Shrug, bananas are also yellow.
Might be a bit overboard what you posted. But fairly accurate.

Id say 90 percent of women under 50 single or marriee are undesirable. That includes the plumper fatties, tattoo women and overall ugly women.

That's not a good stat. Basically it's like Germany going up against russia in ww2. Impossible odds.

I agree about the asian women especially Korean and Japaneese. They have some VERY hot women in those countries and yes skinny.
 

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Porn is at the heart of it. These guys are jacking off to porn instead of pursuing women. The biological need for sex isn't there so they shy away from women, and then this just worsens their self esteem and confidence. Their desire for women is more out of loneliness and validation rather than rampant sexual desire, which if they had then they would approach women, or do whatever is necessary to attract them. On a subconscious level they don't desire sex so it becomes harder to court girls when on an instinctive level their body doesn't want it.
 

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Porn is at the heart of it. These guys are jacking off to porn instead of pursuing women. The biological need for sex isn't there so they shy away from women, and then this just worsens their self esteem and confidence. Their desire for women is more out of loneliness and validation rather than rampant sexual desire, which if they had then they would approach women, or do whatever is necessary to attract them. On a subconscious level they don't desire sex so it becomes harder to court girls when on an instinctive level their body doesn't want it.
Very interesting line especially when you couple it with the fact that beside sex, many of them are unpleasant for anything else.
 

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Porn is at the heart of it. These guys are jacking off to porn instead of pursuing women. The biological need for sex isn't there so they shy away from women, and then this just worsens their self esteem and confidence. Their desire for women is more out of loneliness and validation rather than rampant sexual desire, which if they had then they would approach women, or do whatever is necessary to attract them. On a subconscious level, they don't desire sex so it becomes harder to court girls when on an instinctive level their body doesn't want it.
Yup

Porn
Social Media
Video Games
Lack of social skills
mental illness
Low testosterone


These are all real things, also the rise of incels is cause men in this generation are lazy, and Gen-Z andMillienals don't have the perseverance mindset of previous generations. Look at all these modern comforts. It's gonna be survival of the fittest in the next 10 years. Once AI robots come out it's a wrap and incelldom will be the norm for most folks
 

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Peter, Mike, Jacob, and Chris? More like Lame-o, Beta, Cuck, and AFC. Aka Incels 4 life
 

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When 95% of “available” single females are overweight, that 5% of normal bodies women jumps in smv by like 3 points.

Personally, I have prioritized a not only slim but fit physique in women. I’m any case yea the game is rigged.

And we wonder why so many men fetishize Asians? 85% of their women are normal weight.

Shrug, bananas are also yellow.
Would you rather have a white woman whos got a little plump and maybe a tat, or a skinny korean woman whos hot?
 

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Would you rather have a white woman whos got a little plump and maybe a tat, or a skinny korean woman whos hot?
If its for LTR Im not sure. If its just for sex, I´ll take the white woman as long a she passes the boner test.
 

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Would you rather have a white woman whos got a little plump and maybe a tat, or a skinny korean woman whos hot?
depends on how attractive either one it is. Also depends on if I’m interested in a long-term relationship or a one night stand.
 
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