The psychological view behind flaking.

[SeymourCake]

If a women flakes on you, or in other words, declines you're offer to go on a date, it's because she hasn't fully accepted you. In other words, not only did she not accept the date, but she is ultimately saying that you're not viable for acceptance as a person.

What you can do is keep her interest high, have her be very comfortable with you, have her gain your trust, etc. Be smooth, witty, and charming with her. There's a reason why I put smooth, witty, and charming in bold. Failing to have these characteristics while socializing with the women you want will put you in the friend zone.

Remember, all of this takes time. I disagree with the whole notion that you should walk up to a woman, get her number (those steps are easy to me), but will it directly lead you to a date 10/10 times? No. That's why you should invest time with the women you want. However, be aware of the red flags. If she displays more than 2 red flags, then it's your decision as a man/don juan to drop her.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Disagree.

Attraction cannot be created from conscious behaviour like "being funny or witty", in most of the cases the big part of attraction is physical and if you fail that first important step no matter what you do it wont work.

That's why you should invest time with the women you want

You should invest time in women you want and which give you positive reinforcement aka showing green light, there are no such things as "courting" thats simply an other myth to keep orbiters and servants around for women to be comfortable before going to meet the guy she gets wet for.

In other words, not only did she not accept the date, but she ultimately is saying that you're not viable for acceptance as a person.

Given this conditions no mortal man can turn things around.

If she displays more than 2 red flags, then it's your decision as a man/don juan to drop her.

Agree here, red flags should not be ignored as if they were just a negative in a package, red flags in most of cases are the sign that package is not gonna be delivered to you.

 

[pdx1138]

Flaking isn't declining a date. It's not getting back to you when she said she would or low interest level.

or making agreed on plans for meeting up then choosing not to for whatever reason.


Bottom line is, if a girl cancels plans or can't agree on a plan WITHOUT making a counter offer....it's best to walk away.

I won't waste any time trying to "sell her" that I'm the catch.

I AM the catch and if she doesn't realize it, her loss.

 

[VladPatton]

It really is ridiculous how a lot of girls miss out on good times, a possible great relationship, or just one plain ole simple goddamn night of fun because they have ridiculous mentalities placed in their thick skulls by mommy, the media, or even dumber friends.

You can't waste time on these. They'll eventually realize it when they are still single at 45. The cougar will then pounce.

 

[omega05]

Disagree.

Attraction cannot be created from conscious behaviour like "being funny or witty", in most of the cases the big part of attraction is physical and if you fail that first important step no matter what you do it wont work.


You should invest time in women you want and which give you positive reinforcement aka showing green light, there are no such things as "courting" thats simply an other myth to keep orbiters and servants around for women to be comfortable before going to meet the guy she gets wet for.


Given this conditions no mortal man can turn things around.


Agree here, red flags should not be ignored as if they were just a negative in a package, red flags in most of cases are the sign that package is not gonna be delivered to you.

I dont agree with your first part. You place too much emphasis on looking good will get you a better chance than personality. I dont think the average guy on here wants to hear "your chance is not gonna be high if you dont look good"

PDX1138 has the right idea

 

[nismo-4]

Judge nismo on the case.

If a women flakes on you, or in other words, declines you're offer to go on a date, it's because she hasn't fully accepted you. In other words, not only did she not accept the date, but she is ultimately saying that you're not viable for acceptance as a person.

Really, you're not her most desirable option or she has a better offer. Virtually the same thing.

What you can do is keep her interest high, have her be very comfortable with you, have her gain your trust, etc. Be smooth, witty, and charming with her. There's a reason why I put smooth, witty, and charming in bold. Failing to have these characteristics while socializing with the women you want will put you in the friend zone.

What you can do to keep her interest high is be physically and or financially attractive. Your wits, charm, personality, confidence, and swagger don't make you look any better in either dimension. Most of the time, if she finds you unattractive, she'll label everything you say and do as such. Women always decide what zone to put you in. You can have those bold characteristics, but she has the final say.

Remember, all of this takes time. I disagree with the whole notion that you should walk up to a woman, get her number (those steps are easy to me), but will it directly lead you to a date 10/10 times? No.

If only that fairy tale was real life. But it ain't.

That's why you should invest time with the women you want.

Only if she's letting you.

However, be aware of the red flags. If she displays more than 2 red flags, then it's your decision as a man/don juan to drop her.

A lot of men fear dropping a woman because they have few to no options.

Read betwe- Oh my, you know what to do.

It really is ridiculous how a lot of girls miss out on good times, a possible great relationship, or just one plain ole simple goddamn night of fun because they have ridiculous mentalities placed in their thick skulls by mommy, the media, or even dumber friends.

Lots of women have princess syndrome/ entitlement issues. This number is growing. Women feel entitled to some young muscle bound millionaire with lots of time to spend with her. But since he barely exists, women try to hold out as long as they can for such a guy.

You can't waste time on these. They'll eventually realize it when they are still single at 45. The cougar will then pounce.

Even when they do become cougars, they still look for that bigger, better deal. Have you seen all the power they have in the dating game now? They've got overinflated egos and entitlement issues too! Because the media made it so that older women are desirable, and guys should date them. So many guys jumped on board that 45 year old women are feeling more prized than ever. Add in POF/ Facebook/ OKCupid and look at how big of an ego they have!

Rea- Do it again.

Case closed.

 

[pdx1138]

It really is ridiculous how a lot of girls miss out on good times, a possible great relationship, or just one plain ole simple goddamn night of fun because they have ridiculous mentalities placed in their thick skulls by mommy, the media, or even dumber friends.

Absolutely!

Those are the distilled in purity facts of this case.

 

[Who Dares Win]

I dont agree with your first part. You place too much emphasis on looking good will get you a better chance than personality. I dont think the average guy on here wants to hear "your chance is not gonna be high if you dont look good"

PDX1138 has the right idea

Next time I'll come out with a wonderful lie so, Im sure they would like to hear it much more.

What about there are 7 women for every man so they just have to be patient and wait? or nice guys in the end always win?

What you can do to keep her interest high is be physically and or financially attractive. Your wits, charm, personality, confidence, and swagger don't make you look any better in either dimension. Most of the time, if she finds you unattractive, she'll label everything you say and do as such. Women always decide what zone to put you in. You can have those bold characteristics, but she has the final say.

This is the same school of tought where I belong, Im sorry guys dont want to hear such things but its the plain truth.

 

[Boilermaker]

If a women flakes on you, or in other words, declines you're offer to go on a date, it's because she hasn't fully accepted you.

Simplistic assumption.

How do you know?

 

[badboyjmm]

I disagree as well. Flaking happen because

a) she had something more important to do than to meet a new dude, if she's interested, she will counter-offer.

b) She gives you the number knowing too well she will not meet with you. Women are always trying to show they are nice, so instead of refusing to give you the number, she will simply take your number, even text you a few times when she bored, but will always be busy when it's time to meet up.