Solomon
Master Don Juan
The Logical Player said:
*Yawn*
lets see the fr's
and oh you got some pics?
The problem with the people on this board.
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*Yawn*
lets see the fr's
and oh you got some pics?
sodbuster
Master Don Juan
Phocking 19yr old know it all extra -virgin troll still posting advice? Instead of pickup,now you are telling us how to improve this board?
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Whokay... I wasn't going to post here, but seeing this is still going...
ElStud, did you notice none of the older poster have posted in your thread? Though you can be certain they've read it.
You know, every once in a while some youngster like you passes this town, immediately sees a whole lot of wrong with the place, or in your case, has been here for a while and suddenly decides he's had it with all the crap. Whatever the case, he posts in an angry manner about all his irks and problems and his view of what's wrong with it.
But you know, you're not going to change anything with posts like these. For one because your method of going about it isn't very constructive. You're just rubbing people the wrong way. You won't attract anything by throwing crap around. Second, this place will always be this place. People are free to do and post as they like within the set limits. Those limits include all the problems you have: people preaching what they don't practice themselves.
Yes, there's a lot of crap here. That will always be so. These boards attract a lot of noise, from all sorts of people in different stages of life and personal development. And you know what? That isn't the problem. The problem right now is you. The solution would be simple: just ignore "dumb" posts. Even if they're in threads you start.
This board is a starting place for many. Nearly everyone, if not all, comes here completely clueless. Either clueless about women and life, or clueless about their self-perceived knowledge and skills about those things. Still, we all have to start somewhere. All of us. Why don't you just accept that fact and focus on YOU instead? Why don't you just think: "I'll take what I feel is good and ignore the trolls"? Why don't you?
If you have such good advice to give, why don't you just stick to contributing constructively to threads of guys that clearly need all the help they can get? If there's at all a way to change things around here, this is it: help out others. Don't b*tch because honestly, right now you're just coming off as a know-it-all 19-year old who, on top of it all, hasn't even gotten laid yet. That's not a good position to get angry from at all.
Now, I understand your issues with the place, many feel that way, but the place itself is not the problem. You can't change it. That means that, if you still have a problem with it, the problem is you. That's perhaps an important Man-lesson you still haven't realized thouroughly yet: Accept that you can't change things you don't control. You can change only you.
Now, I don't know your posting history because I don't come on this particular board often, but from what you posted in this thread it seems as if one thing that got you irked is people not taking your advice or arguing with you and not listening to your words. You know what? You don't own the truth. Everybody does. Their own truth. What works for you, doesn't work for someone else. Or not just yet. If people don't listen to you, it's not because they're dumb and thick-headed alone. It may just be that you're not talking to them the right way.
That's another Man-lesson: Give the advice you feel is right and let those you see as haters, flamers and trolls just vent. Don't be phased. Let hate slide off you. You know you and you're not doing what you do to stirr up trouble. Inner peace. Debate with those that argue with you intelligently and respectfully, and then give that back. They have a different view and all the different views together can perhaps make a new one. Even you can learn something from what others think and feel.
So, I'd advise to leave this thread to itself. And to take a break from this place. You have way, WAY too many post already for a presence of merely two years. That shows you invest too much of yourself in this place, and that's probably what got you irked too: you practically live here and you feel others are messing with what you feel is your place. All that time spent here is time really just better invested in your LIFE. In a while, come back and help out the guys you feel you have some help to offer to. It'll all feel much better.
And I would like to respectfully end by remarking that, if you're only just 19 years old, are approaching a lot of women but haven't gotten laid yet, then you'd better be a little more quiet and attentive instead of feeling you know the law, and get some more experience.
Approaching women is only difficult if you haven't gotten to third base (or home plate rather). Once you do, you'll laugh at approaching. Once you do, we'll only see you back here for sex tips. Approaching is not a big deal anymore once you get sex, and neither is sex itself. Trust me on that one. Right now you're really still in a similar sort of hype that all guys that haven't gotten laid are in, wether you like it or not.
Going out isn't what it's about. Sex isn't what it's about.
It's about life and living well. That includes behaviour in here.
Kay?
Peace to you.
Whokay... I wasn't going to post here, but seeing this is still going...
ElStud, did you notice none of the older poster have posted in your thread? Though you can be certain they've read it.
You know, every once in a while some youngster like you passes this town, immediately sees a whole lot of wrong with the place, or in your case, has been here for a while and suddenly decides he's had it with all the crap. Whatever the case, he posts in an angry manner about all his irks and problems and his view of what's wrong with it.
But you know, you're not going to change anything with posts like these. For one because your method of going about it isn't very constructive. You're just rubbing people the wrong way. You won't attract anything by throwing crap around. Second, this place will always be this place. People are free to do and post as they like within the set limits. Those limits include all the problems you have: people preaching what they don't practice themselves.
Yes, there's a lot of crap here. That will always be so. These boards attract a lot of noise, from all sorts of people in different stages of life and personal development. And you know what? That isn't the problem. The problem right now is you. The solution would be simple: just ignore "dumb" posts. Even if they're in threads you start.
This board is a starting place for many. Nearly everyone, if not all, comes here completely clueless. Either clueless about women and life, or clueless about their self-perceived knowledge and skills about those things. Still, we all have to start somewhere. All of us. Why don't you just accept that fact and focus on YOU instead? Why don't you just think: "I'll take what I feel is good and ignore the trolls"? Why don't you?
If you have such good advice to give, why don't you just stick to contributing constructively to threads of guys that clearly need all the help they can get? If there's at all a way to change things around here, this is it: help out others. Don't b*tch because honestly, right now you're just coming off as a know-it-all 19-year old who, on top of it all, hasn't even gotten laid yet. That's not a good position to get angry from at all.
Now, I understand your issues with the place, many feel that way, but the place itself is not the problem. You can't change it. That means that, if you still have a problem with it, the problem is you. That's perhaps an important Man-lesson you still haven't realized thouroughly yet: Accept that you can't change things you don't control. You can change only you.
Now, I don't know your posting history because I don't come on this particular board often, but from what you posted in this thread it seems as if one thing that got you irked is people not taking your advice or arguing with you and not listening to your words. You know what? You don't own the truth. Everybody does. Their own truth. What works for you, doesn't work for someone else. Or not just yet. If people don't listen to you, it's not because they're dumb and thick-headed alone. It may just be that you're not talking to them the right way.
That's another Man-lesson: Give the advice you feel is right and let those you see as haters, flamers and trolls just vent. Don't be phased. Let hate slide off you. You know you and you're not doing what you do to stirr up trouble. Inner peace. Debate with those that argue with you intelligently and respectfully, and then give that back. They have a different view and all the different views together can perhaps make a new one. Even you can learn something from what others think and feel.
So, I'd advise to leave this thread to itself. And to take a break from this place. You have way, WAY too many post already for a presence of merely two years. That shows you invest too much of yourself in this place, and that's probably what got you irked too: you practically live here and you feel others are messing with what you feel is your place. All that time spent here is time really just better invested in your LIFE. In a while, come back and help out the guys you feel you have some help to offer to. It'll all feel much better.
And I would like to respectfully end by remarking that, if you're only just 19 years old, are approaching a lot of women but haven't gotten laid yet, then you'd better be a little more quiet and attentive instead of feeling you know the law, and get some more experience.
Approaching women is only difficult if you haven't gotten to third base (or home plate rather). Once you do, you'll laugh at approaching. Once you do, we'll only see you back here for sex tips. Approaching is not a big deal anymore once you get sex, and neither is sex itself. Trust me on that one. Right now you're really still in a similar sort of hype that all guys that haven't gotten laid are in, wether you like it or not.
Going out isn't what it's about. Sex isn't what it's about.
It's about life and living well. That includes behaviour in here.
Kay?
Peace to you.
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I heard a saying," You see what you choose to see". I think you choose to see the negative side of this fourm. I don't come to this fourm that often. I just come here after a week or two to post ny experiences or to read about the experience of other people, so I don't actually know about you. I had the patience to read the 1st page of this thread. From this I gathered that you have some horrable issues to take care of. At first, you need to understand the difference between a person who wants to help you and a person who wants to harm you. Most of the people over here wants to help you. This is a fourm which deals with issues relating women, so everything is measured over here is based on the amount of ***** that you get. There is a lot of talk about self-improvement but it is not the main issue in this fourm.
Your mindset is totally wacky, you have a victims' mentality and then you have a know-it-all mentality. A person is not at all aware that he has a bad breath but the people around him is aware of his bad breath. You think that you know everything about getting girls, but from ur writings we know that you actually know very little. Not only you posts but also your sig indirectly says that you are not doing very well in your life.
You were saying something about people not listening to your advice. Maybe it is because most people come here to get advice on women. It seems that you have almost 0 experience regarding women so why in the world would they listen to you. My question to you is, why do you even care? Do you want to be a popular poster in this fourm? If so then I pity you. It is more wonderful and easy to be popular in real life than in a virtual world.
If you want to reply, then it would be better to PM me because I wont be here for a week. Pls excuse my grammatical and spelling mistakes because english is my 3rd language.
Your mindset is totally wacky, you have a victims' mentality and then you have a know-it-all mentality. A person is not at all aware that he has a bad breath but the people around him is aware of his bad breath. You think that you know everything about getting girls, but from ur writings we know that you actually know very little. Not only you posts but also your sig indirectly says that you are not doing very well in your life.
You were saying something about people not listening to your advice. Maybe it is because most people come here to get advice on women. It seems that you have almost 0 experience regarding women so why in the world would they listen to you. My question to you is, why do you even care? Do you want to be a popular poster in this fourm? If so then I pity you. It is more wonderful and easy to be popular in real life than in a virtual world.
If you want to reply, then it would be better to PM me because I wont be here for a week. Pls excuse my grammatical and spelling mistakes because english is my 3rd language.
You haven't read any of the post mister. First off, half the people on this board don't freaking know sh*t about me. How can you help someone who you don't know sh*t about? Exactly. Go back and read the first post dude, cause I'm mainly repeating that. I wonder really, if you've read ANY of the topics that made me write this post. Harshly criticizing someone you HARDLY know sh*t about? HELP? Yeah right man. Hating on someone you HARDLY know sh*t about? HELP? No, it's not freaking help.Moon Ram said:
I'm gonna repeat some stuff from the opener, but like I said most of these people make ASSUMPTIONS. They try to give help on what they ASSUME is the situation. The problem is, most of these guys have never and will never talk to me in real life. If you knew my situation and you tried to help great. But none of them do. And the retarded sh*t is is that I can make a topic on advice and then it's nothing but idiots flaming me. Infact, I know you could have not POSSIBLY read the topic and still say what you have above.
Seriously, would you like it if I came into YOUR topic which you gave DECENT advice in and started criticizing you? Probably not. Most of these idiots who are hating don't read the god damned advice. Then there are those that say "LOL ELSTUD YOU ADVICE SUCK I R N00B LOLZ!" without any real reason. And I'm willing to bet that a good half of those idiots HATING HAVE NEVER BEEN LAID, NOR DO THEY ACTUALLY GO OUT.
Like I said SHAME ON YOU, IF YOU DON'T GO OUT AND YOU ARE HATING ON SOMEONE WHO DOES.
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ElStud said:
Yo, no one, and i mean NO ONE is making assumptions about you. In fact, we have read HUNDREDS of your threads, and we know exactly how you are in real life! You don't leave room for people to make assumptions about you, because you, with your numerous threads, have revealed exactly what you are like in real life
so, NO ONE IS MAKING ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT YOU
seriously, this forum isn't for the mentally disabled
Wow, so you're personally attacking me great. Seriously, this forum has been f*cked. Well for the people who want to get better, get better. For those guys who want to hate continue hating. Your personal problems are not my concern. You guys need to actually learn how to improve yourselves as people. But anyway, if you want to continue down the path of hate and personal bashing do so.
Seriously, you guys are f*cked. Some of you have personal problems WAAAAAAY beyond women. The hating, the flaming, the name calling, the fact that you guys are SO on one dude's d*ck, the fact that half of you have probably never been laid, but you're criticizing me. Well, not my problem. While you guys sit here and hate I go out in the field consistantly and improve.
Seriously, you guys are f*cked. Some of you have personal problems WAAAAAAY beyond women. The hating, the flaming, the name calling, the fact that you guys are SO on one dude's d*ck, the fact that half of you have probably never been laid, but you're criticizing me. Well, not my problem. While you guys sit here and hate I go out in the field consistantly and improve.
oakraiderz2
Master Don Juan
If you dont understand the difference between making an assumption about a stranger and reading forum posts by an individual (hundreds at that) and gaining insight into their personality and shortcomings, which you CLEARLY do not, then you need some help. You dont improve, you do the samething over and over. Approaching, not getting numbers or dates or hanging out with girls or kissing a girl or even being friends with a girl, is not considered success and/or improvement.ElStud said:
Rhoto
Master Don Juan
Its a fckload of fail son!oakraiderz2 said:
Question is, why the f*ck do you care so god damned much? Why the hell is it your problem? Why post this post? No reason. That's what I don't understand. Have you nothing better to do? What the hell is your problem? Why are you on MY d*ck? Surely I could dig up some stuff on you and reverse things, but I'm not that kind of guy.oakraiderz2 said:
Besides, you don't know what I do. Hundreds of post? And my last FR was monthes ago. Seriously though, why the hell is it such a god damned big deal to you guys? Getting girls and getting laid aint even that big of a deal to me. I go up to girls, be myself, get interest have fun. I'm 18, I'm not in a rush to get a freaking kiss. All I care is I'm enjoying what I'm doing.
But seriously, ask yourself, why the hell do you care so much?
Well let's end it like this. If you are a hater, you know your problems. You know that whatever problem you have is bigger than women. You know what that problem is. Whether you fix it or not is not my care. You don't come on forums criticizing and hating on people because everything in your life is going well. There is a reason and whoever is hating knows it. You don't come on forums calling people "mentally disabled" because you're fine. Solve your problems or not it doesn't matter to me.
What's sad about haters is, you'll always be this way. You'll never improve in life and you'll never be able to actually enjoy women, but you'll be sitting on Sosuave, bragging, talking crap and hating on people who actually go out. What's sad is this says a lot about your life. I go out everyday and approach girls and I have fun, cause I love girls. I don't give a f*ck if I get rejected. Most likely they are haters in real life. And yeah, I made an assumption, so f*ck you, cause you guys have made thousands more.
What's sad about haters is, you'll always be this way. You'll never improve in life and you'll never be able to actually enjoy women, but you'll be sitting on Sosuave, bragging, talking crap and hating on people who actually go out. What's sad is this says a lot about your life. I go out everyday and approach girls and I have fun, cause I love girls. I don't give a f*ck if I get rejected. Most likely they are haters in real life. And yeah, I made an assumption, so f*ck you, cause you guys have made thousands more.
Do you seriously not see the flaw in your logic?ElStud said:
Fine, lets assume you're not the stark raving mad KBJ everyone here is ASSUMING you are. Lets assume you're starting from a clean slate, no one knows anything about you other than what you've posted so they have no right to 'hate' you. Let's run with that.
That's a two way street sonny boy. You can't assume we're KBJ either, because of the exact same reasons, our whole lives aren't on this forum, you have absolutely no proof other than what we've posted (and that's tenous proof at best) as to what we've accomplished.
To say "you don't know me" as your defence against these flames, you either agree to say the same about those who YOU don't know, or rebutt us with childish and repetitive insults which make you into the village idiot.
As far as FRs and prior posts are concerned, look at yours, and look at some of the peoples(including mine) who you call asspirates. Unsurprisingly, there's a stark difference
As far as why i keep replying to you. It's just damned funny to see a beached fish like yourself flopping about, trying to survive the currents of a hot and sandy beach where you clearly don't belong. I'm like Dogbert you see... I'm someone who is incapable of sympathy, somone so cynical that the suffering of others is nothing but a source of... cheap entertainment.
feel free and ignore, this post isn't for you anyway, it's for everyone else
Rhoto
Master Don Juan
I don't think any one is hating here bud. We're just calling it like it is.ElStud said:
Get over it.
I love life, women and the fact that the economy is showing modest signs of recovery is making me more ambitious. Every day I try to become a bit better or gain some type of experience that I can incorporate into my life to make my experiences with people better.
You talk about people who "go out." I go out 4 days a week. I'm in social situations with women 7 days a week. So don't ASSUME you know what you're talking about.
Yes, you're approaching and starting conversations with women. And for that I commend you. Most numbnuts don't possess the testicular fortitude to approach random women in random environments. Its just not their modus operandi.
But your violent reaction to people on this forum make me doubt you can't handle rejection. The fact that it remains at the center of your attention is bothersome. All this energy and passion being used in what I see as a self-destructive way.
You should really ask yourself THIS question - why am I responding to posts when I don't have to?
And why do you care if I know that man? You go out 4 days a week great. Anything else?Rhoto said:
And doubt it man. I'm not here to prove anything. See it as you see it. Doubt all day that I can't handle rejection, won't change anything. I still go out there and when I get rejected I really don't give a damn. There are other women, it's easy as that. I mean do you really have nothing better to do at than wonder why some random girl didn't want to talk to you? Well, while you're wondering that, you're missing out on other girls.
See what you're not seeing is the only time I come on Sosuave is when I'm bored and have nothing to do. Otherwise I'm actually going out. And you can't call the "center of attention" card if you're giving it. You act as if I'm asking for it.
And really, what are you trying to accomplish? I've said what I've had to said. You can go on for posts saying this and that and in the end it doesn't matter, cause I'll still keep going out getting numbers and having fun with girls.
Rhoto
Master Don Juan
Try having sex with them.ElStud said:
Cause that's all your life is huh sex. Sex and girls hmm. That's rather sad. I feel more sorry for the girls who have to deal with ass pirates like this. Then again, if they fall for it, I really don't feel sorry.Rhoto said:Try having sex with them.
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ElStud said:
tell me where I was wrong in what I said, because what I said was not a personal attack, but it is a personal FACT about you - taken from everything that you have ever written about yourself! Zero assumptions, and only 100% fact taken from your own words from all of your field reports.
you can't dispute logic
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ElStud said:
because you are posting advice threads and NO ONE likes a hypocrite
edit: and let me tell you, i love people and all that, but i HATE a hypocritical know-it-all virgin who doesn't take basic advice and acts like a moron towards everyone that tries to help him....that's you
