The path to becoming "The Prize"

[Poonani Maker]

Once you have built your CORE CONFIDENCE, you will not be asking or thinking about how to be the PRIZE.

CONFIDENCE, the state of BEING, and not KNOWING is what makes the difference.

The backbone of confidence are OPTIONS. This includes TANGIBLE and/or INTANGIBLE options.

Tangible options are plates.

Intangible options is the ABILITY to pick up tangible options at will.

You cannot attain TRUE CONFIDENCE without a track record.

The difference between BEING and pretending to BE are the results out there in the field.

You CANNOT have a true CONFIDENT CORE unless you are out there achieving REAL RESULTS.

Read that again.

Just as a professional athlete need to practice and succeed to be GREAT.

There are no JEDI mind tricks to make true confidence. Confidence is built by addressing the UNKNOWN with action.

Many have BIG EGOS for compensation of a lack of true confidence. Others have BIG EGOS with BIG CONFIDENCE.

The key is to be who are and CONTINUE to push even when you have IDEALLY grown. Complacency leads to stagnation.

At the end of the day, a true CONFIDENT CORE is like building a house, brick by brick.

Great post. Read this people. How do you know if you can do something until you get in the driver's seat, pop the clutch, out on your own, and drive?

 

[guru1000]

Now imagine there is a Guru1000 show, where you are this ladies man, and you have a great track record, lot's of experience, and confidence.

But in reality, everyone in your life is just an actor on the show, and all the ladies, and all the experience you developed were all an illusion. This then would make your confidence an illusion as well.

Ok let's play IMAGINATION.

Let's say you EARNED (not INHERITED) a BILLION dollars. You would be very CONFIDENT in two things:

- your resources (Tangible)
- your ability to attain resources (Intangible)

One day you lose all your money.

Would you still be CONFIDENT in your ability to attain resources?

Would you still have that CONFIDENT state had you inherited it?

 

[reset]

What about visualization and stuff like that. If your brain experiences it as real you will act as if it's real, even if you hadn't had certain experiences.

 

[Interceptor]

You're all correct, gentlemen.

The mind is an incredible and powerful thing.

And you improve in these areas by doing ALL these things.
No ONE way is 'better' than another.

Be practical, be flexible, learn to flow and get deep into it.

Live atyour edge.

THERE is where the REAL Living is found.

At the edge.


Experience it firsthand.

Visualize the event.

Intellectualize by reading/assimilating information how this event can manifest in your life.


They are ALL intertwined!



Get deeper than the branches and leaves.

You owe it to yourslef and the people around you, especially those who care about you and count on you.

 

[guru1000]

What about visualization and stuff like that. If your brain experiences it as real you will act as if it's real, even if you hadn't had certain experiences.

That is a CONFIDENT STATE. It's like watching a ROCKY movie and being temporarily MOTIVATED.

Unfortunately this is only a temporary state. You would have to continue watching the movie (VISUALIZING) to attain a CONFIDENT STATE again.

CORE CONFIDENCE is BUILT brick by brick. It is only as STRONG as it's built structure.

 

[reset]

well obviously you have to apply it. But I know for me, and I'm sure it's not uncommon, is visualizing failing and looking foolish and things like that. So that has to be the first step. If you keep visualizing the positive outcome, I think your body and mind sort of just start doing things, and you start taking these confident actions, even in spite of yourself, like it's happening through you.

 

[Dongfu]

Ok let's play IMAGINATION.

Let's say you EARNED (not INHERITED) a BILLION dollars. You would be very CONFIDENT in two things:

- your resources (Tangible)
- your ability to attain resources (Intangible)

One day you lose all your money.

Would you still be CONFIDENT in your ability to attain resources?

Would you still have that CONFIDENT state had you inherited it?

Nice incite.

I sometimes like to throw stuff out there to see where it goes.

But now we are getting into issues of destiny - in this case matters of inheriting confidence or money. When you inherit something it means it is your birth right. Like a King inherits the throne. You will only lose it if it is destined to be so. Where as something you build and earn cannot really be taken away.

But all of this is still Matrix based, surface logic. Perceived confidence according to the rules of the system.

 

[Dongfu]

You're all correct, gentlemen.The mind is an incredible and powerful thing.

Okay, you can be Morpheus in this thread.

 

[Martin Shabazz Jr.]

Once you have built your CORE CONFIDENCE, you will not be asking or thinking about how to be the PRIZE.
...
At the end of the day, a true CONFIDENT CORE is like building a house, brick by brick.

Pretty much.

Personally I think all this "I am the prize" mentality has gotten out of hand. It's like going from one extreme to another.

I've been through it and it's not conducive to getting laid, which is the whole point. After a while you start getting so gassed that you think girls should start throwing themselves at you. Not good.

I'm not, "the prize", a DJ, or a PUA I'm just an average guy who is trying to do the best I can and improve my love life in the process.

P.S. This forum needs a Field Reports section.

 

[Maxtro]

The reason that many men believe the woman is the prize is because he believes that he isn't. He may not be aware of it but somewhere inside of himself, he thinks he is unworthy. An AFC is a man who thinks that he is unworthy.

Western society is definitely at fault for raising the status of women so high. In the past women came with a dowry (the money, goods, or estate that a woman brings to her husband in marriage.) In essence the woman was a burden and she came with incentives. Now society is basically at the point where men have to have a dowry. What has happened to society where women have been elevated to the status of princesses, angels and goddesses? Have women been elevated or has man been knocked down or is it a combination?

As for a man to become the prize, it is a very difficult thing to do. The most important thing is for him to be truly confident in who he is. Growing confidence when there is none is no easy task.

Confidence is built on success. Unfortunately if there are no successes then confidence with not grow. Also a strong sense of unworthiness can prevent a man from even trying to succeed.

 

[Poonani Maker]

Many of the ugs, 4s, 5s, women are so in the dark, and could become a 6 or 7, maybe even 10, if they would just simply learn the game. While there are more AFC guys than AFC gals, there are still out there oblivious to their worth. They have to use mantras, quotes or affirmations to remind themselves of their worth, the self-help female tries to dig herself out of the trenches or slop, to rise again a beautiful gem just as much as the struggling AFC tries to lift himself up to see the LIGHT, and open the DOOR.

 

[Dongfu]

Pretty much.

Personally I think all this "I am the prize" mentality has gotten out of hand. It's like going from one extreme to another.

I've been through it and it's not conducive to getting laid, which is the whole point. After a while you start getting so gassed that you think girls should start throwing themselves at you. Not good.

I'm not, "the prize", a DJ, or a PUA I'm just an average guy who is trying to do the best I can and improve my love life in the process.

P.S. This forum needs a Field Reports section.

Possibly the best response yet. Someone is stepping out of the Matrix and getting closer to the reason I made this thread.

The path to becoming the prize has no end. It is an adventure, and the adventure alone is the prize. If you make becoming the prize the ultimate goal, and you actually arrive there, then what?

You are the King of the Hore Matrix :crackup:

 

[Señor Fingers]

I've always felt that the very nature of the word prize is misleading in this context.. it denotes an underlying dynamic of competition where there is only one winner, and that kind of vibe is not very conducive to genuine chemistry.

At the end of the day this is really about status and the images we project on others and ourselves. But when the pedestals are raised and then long dismantled, the hard truth is that you either play the game or get played by it.

In order to be a player and not a playee, you need self control and discipline.. the prize is no longer about who you are or who you stick your d!ck into, its about your mastery over yourself and your emotions.

You want to waste massive amounts of time and personal energy? Then go ahead and play the status game with women. Learn the hard way the consequences of 2 common mistakes most newjacks make:

1. Put the women instantly on a high pedestal instantly.

2. Put himself too high on a pedestal to really make a connection

Both sides of the playee coin are united by poor self esteem and general ignorance of the way human interactions work, especially between men and women.

In an ideal situation two people at the same level of personal evolution get together and inspire each other to new heights. Sadly, the ideal situation is also a rare one, precisely because folks are too wrapped up in themselves (or the other person) to understand what love is.

The prize mentality is not entirely misled, it's good to value yourself and your time. But with balance comes enlightenment and hand-in-hand with that self-respect comes compassion and humility, which keeps your head out of your ass.

You have to get the idea of pedestals, prizes and ratings out of your head because they are just illusions that impede your progress. Perceiving is believing and belief is what makes things real. It is a double-edged sword which can either completely rob you of your power or totally inspire you to make your existence meaningful enough to discover the true, eternal

Purpose
Respect
Integrity
Zest for Life
Evolution

 

[Dongfu]

In an ideal situation two people at the same level of personal evolution get together and inspire each other to new heights.

This understanding is another step leading away from the Matrix. Using women as a human ladder to elevate yourself wont get you very far.

This understanding is also why I dont buy into the "soul mate," or the "perfect person for me ideal." The perfect person for you is anyone who is progressing in the same direction as you are, at relatively the same rate. Once you grow in different, or opposite directions, that person is no longer fitting for you.

This is one of the speeches I give women who are trying to corner me into commitment. This may be Twaht Kunt Do worthy material

I basically tell them that as long as they are on their best behavior, and our paths are in line, we can hang. So "I can commit to you right now, in this moment, but I cant make any promises for tomorrow. Much can happen in 24 hours. We could be completely different people by tomorrow. So let's just enjoy our time together now."

LOL - This is when the panties are supposed to come off

 

[potato]

I see where you are going with this, but your post is completely backwards. AFC is not a man's "natural state", and a woman's "prize mentality" isn't there from birth.

This is NURTURE....not nature.

I have to agree with STR8UP on this. Humans are social creatures. It is in our nature to be sociable. As people grow up their position in society just kind of naturally leads to one way or another based on their natural abilities but molded by their upbringing, the society around them, and their interaction with it.

One becomes an AFC by finding oneself at the bottom of the social pecking order that was established bit by bit, year by year over the course one’s life. Those who are “the prize” got there by the same process.

Hot chicks act the way they do because of the way people react to them, just as ugly chicks act the way that they do because of the way people act towards them. Same thing with guys. Guys who grew up having positive relationships with women tend to instinctively know how to act around women/girls and guys who grew up without positive relationships with women/girls tend to be lost when it comes to interacting with women.

A man develops a “prize mentality” when women treat him like a prize.

 

[Dongfu]

Hot chicks act the way they do because of the way people react to them, just as ugly chicks act the way that they do because of the way people act towards them. Same thing with guys.

Thanks for adding another good incite. However, the only loop hole I can see that might exist in this argument is, "Can an ugly girl, by changing her inner game ever become the prize for good looking guys?"

We know that looks are not the most important thing for woman. A guy who is a 5 or 6 in looks, at the top of his inner game can score an HB. I'm not sure it works the other way around.

In accord with what you said,

hot chicks are the natural prize, inner game or not.

Good looking guys could be the natural prize if their inner game is tight.

Uglier guys can "become" the prize.

Ugly women dont really stand a chance.

A man develops a “prize mentality” when women treat him like a prize.

This relates back to my Truman Show analogy.