The only thing HS girls care about

[rockman]

Its seeming more and more to me that the only thing HS girls care about is LOOKS, not social status. I belong to a group of four best friends, and i'll admit that we're all a bit weird. None of us are THAT popular in school, we dont go to parties that often, etc. BUT, two of my friends are both pretty good looking and they have both hooked up with numerous girls before. Me on the other hand, I am not that good looking at all and it just seems really tough to get with any girls, even when I try to take the lead talking to a group of girls. It seems like girls dont care about what I have to say at all, simply cuz im not "hot".

 

[mpimpin]

Doesn't mean they care only about looks. If you have great looks they can substitute for other things such as social proof. There are various forms of attraction.

 

[rockman]

Doesn't mean they care only about looks. If you have great looks they can substitute for other things such as social proof. There are various forms of attraction.

well me and none of my friends dont have much social proof, and I dont even have the looks!

 

[LostAndConfused]

bull.

i go outside my school and girls literally ask me to take their numbers.

 

[Daddy The Pimp]

well me and none of my friends dont have much social proof, and I dont even have the looks!

Social Proof its easy to achieve . Just talk to everyone , be social , friendly (later ill post some threads that you MUST read )

About looks , i dont know . When someone's here say LOOK DOESNT MATTER , they are lying . And they know they are lying .

But you can transform . Take a look at Neil Strauss before and after joining in this thing . Its great transformation . Then take a look at DjDan (search in youtube for GEEK TO PIMP) a member here transformation . Great and inspirational .

 

[antidonjuan]

WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?? Looks do matter? I look average and I get interests from girls in my school. Before I thought I don't look handsome so I don't get girls but it is all a myth. It's about personality and interaction. Yea, maybe a girl would approach you because you look good, but in the long run it doesn't matter. I have no idea why you say looks matter, you are a hypocrite and no offense, even though I have less experience I know what I'm saying. Unless you look super super ugly, then you are right.

I think the reason why you think looks matter to girls is because there are too much men out there (average looking) and don't get any girls and they complain about their looks.

I have seen ugly guys which hot girls in my school. How do you explain that? It's all character and personality and the FEELINGS you give to a girl.

Am I right?



And note: Your response only means you thing: You look good and you think looks matter alot, but it's your character and personality that is doing all the work. Looks have a slim advantage but it is no big deal.

 

[antidonjuan]

I have to admit, my friends that are girls told me that I look average, and they think I look like a raccoon. But it seems like the girls you are gaming with don't really care how you look, it's about you interact with her and being a men.

 

[LostAndConfused]

I have to admit, my friends that are girls told me that I look average, and they think I look like a raccoon. But it seems like the girls you are gaming with don't really care how you look, it's about you interact with her and being a men.

Exactly right. Good looks can actually be detrimental in the wrong hands. I wont go into that.

 

[SinJester]

Lol you can't blame it on your looks if you don't have social proof. In my opinion these two things matter slightly more in high school because there are less variables then when you finish it. Still what matter most is feelings. I'm sure you've seen hot girls with average/ugly guys or guys without much social proof, I know I have.

Anyway you can't change your looks apart from working out and having a good style, I suggest you work at both of these but don't waste time about things you can't change. Even if it is true worrying is pointless. Just improve yourself. Have you ever thought the guys that have hooked up with girls might have something else you don't have?

 

[rockman]

I have to admit, my friends that are girls told me that I look average, and they think I look like a raccoon. But it seems like the girls you are gaming with don't really care how you look, it's about you interact with her and being a men.

Same here, my friends have told me (in an honest way), that I look like a fish cuz my nose is so big. The only looks I can boast about is just that I dont have acne, im in pretty good physical shape, and im 5'10. Those are all things anyone can change, but what most people cant change (unless their really wealthy) is their facial complexion (as in changing the size of your nose, cheeks, etc).

If someone gets screwed with an ugly face, there's nothing you can really do to change that other than getting plastic surgery (which i will never stoop down to).

I just feel like whenever im in school, girls are always avoiding me and dont want to be seen associating with me just cuz of the way I look.

 

[antidonjuan]

That's a myth. I used to think that way too. Build up your character and be friendly with your friends and build social skills. I would say make more friends first and change some of your AFC behaviors.

 

[Cry For Love]

lack of looks isnt an excuse to not being popular with the ladies, unless you really have a deformed face.

i can say for myself, i have had rather severe acne, had greasy hair and havent bothered to shave more than a couple of times a week and have worn the same jumper and jeans to school for the past couple of years and yet quite a lot of girls have been interested.

but what is a problem is the fact that a lot of guys simply do bad unattractive grimaces which scream of unconfidence. learn to keep your facial (and other) body language cool and confident and the girls will find you attractive. the importance of body language cannot be overestimated!

 

[rockman]

Thing is, getting social proof is A LOT easier said than done, and not only that, but I dont want to be THE most popular guy around just so I can get girls. Like I said in my first post, those two friends of mine dont have any more social proof than I do, yet they still get girls simply because they're good looking.

 

[Daddy The Pimp]

Wait wait. Dont get me wrong .

I know that even if you dont have look you can get some ladies . But most of the time is SOCIAL PROOF / PRESELECTION from other womens that replaces LOOKS on this aspect .

And thanks god (and Mystery ) , these things can be achieved easily .

And you dont have to be beautiful . Dont be . Just be the best you can be .
Girls see that the guy is grooming himself , is caring about himself and they will feel attraction .

Im trying to motivate him to be his BEST self .

 

[antidonjuan]

u dont really need social prof dad, some guys have no social prof and i see them getting hot ladies. it's rather their persoanlity and character

 

[Cry For Love]

social proof helps but is not necessary. confidence is more important. with social proof and sh*tty game you will still have trouble, but with confidence youll have an advantage everywhere in life. girls simply cant resist a guy that does anything and everything he wants without hesitation.

clubs are a good example of this. even when going to a new club for the first time where no one knows you, the confident hunk will have chicks attracted to him.

 

[rockman]

Yeah but getting social proof is just soo much more easily said than done. When you say social proof, do you mean actual popularity in school or just if your in a small group with some guys and girls?

 

[antidonjuan]

It depends on what you are talking about. Getting a girlfriend may be SEEN as social prof, being around with lots of friends and being cool may also SEEn as social prof. I know very popular people in my school who doesn't have a girl. Work on your confidence, character, and flirting skills (kino) and talk to people more. Simply talk to a person that you didn't talk to before each day is worthy. Real popularity and social prof in school cannot be earned within one day, rather it takes time and gradual change.

 

[rockman]

It depends on what you are talking about. Getting a girlfriend may be SEEN as social prof, being around with lots of friends and being cool may also SEEn as social prof. I know very popular people in my school who doesn't have a girl. Work on your confidence, character, and flirting skills (kino) and talk to people more. Simply talk to a person that you didn't talk to before each day is worthy. Real popularity and social prof in school cannot be earned within one day, rather it takes time and gradual change.

Ya your right, but like I said, my two best friends DONT HAVE ANY MORE SOCIAL PROOF THAN ME, yet they can still hookup with girls simply cuz they're good looking.

I know that im not good looking like them, but isnt there any other way than having to go through the long road of getting social proof (which is MUCH easier said than done) to hookup with a girl (just hookin up im not even talking about a relationship)

 

[collalife]

looks,lol, girls will go for a ugly guy dressed well faster surrounded by beautiful women then the gq model huddled alone dressed terribly. honestly it sounds like you have limited beliefs. LET THEM GO!

hs girls are the same as women except they are willing to have intercourse faster. I am not able to see what you are doing currently but as long as you display, confidence, sense of humor, smile, and the center of attention(leading the group and always having fun)then hs girls,women, even dudes will be attracted to you.(just focus on having fun)

Social proof can be gained by displaying these traits which will ultimately give you the girls. if you have any questions on any reliable material pm me.