The only dating advice you need

[zinc4]

1) look good...duh...if you are ugly or have a bad face get a good body from the gym, haircut clothes alllift stuff

2) don't waste time on women you haven't banged yet...set up the dates and if not move on to other targets

3) if you currently dont have many options or any then just be relentless...spam girls relentlessly online hit on them in the clubs, bars with no remorse or shame of rejection... Same in daily life as well...abd go on a ton of dates...only for drinks of course

4) always meet for drinks only and somewhete coveniently near your place....no dinner dates, no bs activity dates...do you really like going hiking or biking with some girl you dont even know who you want to bang? Of course not...keep it simple go for wgat you really want right out of the gate which is sex of course

5) always be extremely aggressive about sex the first date

6) always assume success...assume she wants your hand to slide across her back, assume she wants you to go in close for a kiss right after immediately meeting her and then pull back...

Assume she wants a deep kiss and your toungue down her throat with your hand clutching her ass...abd assume she will always go back with you to your place ....and don't waste time not touching her...touch her in a slight sexually suggestive manner within 10 mins of meeting her if the opportunity arises standing next to each other...walking...ect...be aggressive but smooth

7) always drink and have fun first date...it sends a cross the message that you are a player which you will have to verbally deny multiple times..but hey...despite what they say...women love players....never accept an attempt at her to change your date from a drink date to anything else... Just say no to dinner, coffee, activity or any daytime date in general...

8) never pay the full tab first date unless you know for a fact sex is in the bag and she hasn't suggested going dutch...if you know sex is in the bag and she is not suggesting to go dutch or doesn't pull out her purse then go ahead and pony up instead of risking losing the bang for creating a potentially awkward situation of looking cheap....if you have decent reason to suspect she wont go back with you or isn't super into you then always say let's go dutch even if you have to argue with her and look cheap in the process

9) if she shows signs of not going to reciprocate to your sexual advances and tries to suggest you are picking up the tab, politely excuse yourself to the restroom and just walk out hit up a nightclub or go home...don't waste a dime on such a woman

10) build lots of rapport with alcohol fueled conversation, regard her as a little sister type of figure that you can bang....have an actual real conversation.... No gaming bs...just really talk to her and be genuinely interested in her life story...genui

11) don't accept no, especially if she is in your room...if she says no don't stop until she screams it and is really serious

12) learn how to dirty talk....treat her like a dirty slut but in a playful nice fashion

13) learn how to have good sex and kiss her like its the last girl you will ever encounter...if you can dirty talk during foreplay and sex then you don't even need special techniques she will be wet and cumming from missionary in no time

14) don't be scared to dominate her in bed...she may get uncomfortable acting at times or resist a little but don't let that phase you...

Ways to dominate:

Tell her you are going to tie her up while you are ****ing her

Cover her mouth when she us moaning during sex abd say something like now you are ****ing sex slave you baughy little *****

Spank her a lot on various parts of body during sex abd really at any time in bed with her....

Bite her while banging her

Tell her you are going to pull out a marker and write your name on her ass abd **** it..

When you are on top of her banging her, have your smart phone nearby pull it out and randomly start videoing her face while you are ****ibg her...you might be surprised by her reaction.... Even if she screams no and hits the phone to the floor it will make her *** two tines faster literally..

tell her how much you like her ***** when banging her tell her you want her *** all over your face....you might think this sounds beta but it makes them horny as hell

Pull her head down to blow you and tell her to lick up your ***...

Use a long pair of socks or something to playfully handcuff her hands behind her back....

Slap her in the face with your **** a few times when she blows you...

Put her panties around her neck while you **** her abd ball them up in your mouth...

Tell her you ate going to lock her in a cage while you are ****ibg her and only let her out to **** her..

Really get into her head during sex...and just be really passionate like a wild animal feasting on its prey like you want to salvagely **** every molecule in her body

15) don't act clingy after sex

Rinse and repeat guts rinse and repeat

IMO learning to dirty talk and be good in bed is something that will overcome any amount of game or pua tactics....worship her body with no shame then take another chick out two nights later do the same with her and have they will all fall for you quickly.....then you can pick and choose as you wish....

 

[No.Danny]

It seems Pook will handle this

Oh please great sir do slap him with your words,

I know everyone has different objectives on this forum. Mine was a long term relationship.

After being away from this forum for a long while, I've realized what I think are conclusive things.

Anti-Dump is right all the way. Speed seduction, for the case of long term relationships, is worthless.

I would get results with speed seduction. But I might as well have been an actor. I enjoyed getting responses, but I was never happy.

Forget NLP, forget Speed Seduction, unless you wish to practice them all your life. For a long term relationship, they are worthless.

Anti-Dump and the advice on the website is much much better and actually works.

I have flaws, as does anyone else. Speed seduction could veil them, but I want to be accepted for myself and my flaws as well. True love demands the acceptance of the entire package.

Here's what I noticed to be extremely effective:

1) Go for the number, go for the date. (Guys should not flirt. Women flirt. The job of guys is to ask for the number and to call for the date. This cuts through all women's games.)

2) Don't talk about yourself! (Focus the conversation on her or on her interests. Only mention things about you if they are the same: "Yes, I think the same about parrots being evil too." So many women have said that I'm a 'mystery'. "Is this good?" "Yes" This is because when I do comment on myself, it is very vague and general. I keep my mouth shut. Also, you come across as a good listener. A good listener is the most sexiest trait a guy can have.)

3) Demand respect! (She may not give you her company, she may not give you her affection, but she should always, and I mean always, give you her respect. Women will not stay with guys they don't respect, and you wouldn't want to be with a woman that didn't respect you anyway.)

4) Don't be afraid to disagree. (This runs contrary to Speed Seduction. No, do not seek disagreements. If possible, try to bypass them. But never be afraid to disagree. Women want guys who have a mind of their own.)

5) Women are never the priority. (Your life is more important. Women take a backseat to your passions and hobbies. Failure to do this makes you desperate.)

Most imporantly, be yourself. Speed seduction will not give you happiness. You want to be accepted for who you are, not because you memorized patterns and lines from an internet website. Being yourself does not mean being a shy sniveling nice guy, it also includes self improvement.
You cannot 'act' yourself into happiness. Away with the NLP! Away with the Speed Seduction! Being yourself may give you more failures in dating, but it is the only path to true happiness.

Of Seduction
It can be wise not to seduce too fast, to not get her between your sheets ASAP. Patience is always a good thing and lets things grow between you two.

Confident guys are confident because they know that it will come. If it is not now, then it will come. If it will come, then it is not now. Yet, it will come. I think patience has been the biggest element to my success than anything else.

Magnificent

 

[zinc4]

Shooting for long term relationship is wrong in the first place. Males are biologically programmed to reproduce with as many mates as possible abd women subconsciously respect that.

I know pook is like a god on here....but that being patient line is utter complete BS. Every woman's fantasy is to be swept off their feet instantly.....I just met a new girl tonight who I banged 30 mins after first meeting her now she's on the subway train back home texting me saying she's worried she told me too much too fast....

If you learn how to escalated sexually quickly abd smoothly, and look decent, it cuts through all thus extra gaming bs instantly.

 

[LMFAO]

Shooting for long term relationship is wrong in the first place. Males are biologically programmed to reproduce with as many mates as possible abd women subconsciously respect that.

I know pook is like a god on here....but that being patient line is utter complete BS. Every woman's fantasy is to be swept off their feet instantly.....I just met a new girl tonight who I banged 30 mins after first meeting her now she's on the subway train back home texting me saying she's worried she told me too much too fast....

If you learn how to escalated sexually quickly abd smoothly, and look decent, it cuts through all thus extra gaming bs instantly.

Agreed, I disagree on the same point with Corey Wayne, he wrote in his book something like if you're just looking for sex then get a wh0re.

Every relationship starts with sex. If you haven't had sex with her yet then you're not in a relationship and she hasn't invested ziltch.

I went to a girl's place last night on third date and she was clearly ill and was also on her period, I left without sex with an external smile on my face but internally thinking "wtf".

 

[RangerMIke]

Women will RUN from a man if she thinks he wants a relationship. OTOH she will end up in a relationship with a guy she thinks just wants to fvck her.

The relationship MUST be the woman's idea.... if it isn't then she wants no part of it.

 

[skinnyguy]

Women will RUN from a man if she thinks he wants a relationship. OTOH she will end up in a relationship with a guy she thinks just wants to fvck her.

The relationship MUST be the woman's idea.... if it isn't then she wants no part of it.

lolll i hate to say it but this is so true.

My first gf was head over heels in love with me. I fought with her all the time and she never tried to break up with me. I kept breaking up with her and she kept taking me back.

A few years later I tried to get all coupley with another girl who initially showed high interest and she went NC on me.

 

[Poon King]

Women will RUN from a man if she thinks he wants a relationship. OTOH she will end up in a relationship with a guy she thinks just wants to fvck her.

The relationship MUST be the woman's idea.... if it isn't then she wants no part of it.

This is 100% true.

As the man.. your only focus should be on sex. Because in the end.. that is all women are for. In relationships they are parasitic.. so the man really doesn't benefit. Plus, he has to "commit" which means no access to other women. Pretty stupid and beta in reality. Men do it out of laziness and lack of options. Women know this.. which is why women have the advantage in "relationships" while men have the advantage in the stage where you are f*cking but not "official".

Life is like a large rich cake and women are like one small peace of one small slice. Men make women too important.. which is why women don't respect them.

Dating and f*cking is easy for me simply because I care more about myself than women.. and it shows. Women like the challenge. They like the sex. They like competing with other women. They like that fear of the unknown. And because I am so elusive.. they fall fast and hard. They turn to their effeminate beta orbiters for therapy when they can't lock me down.

Its so funny to meet the beta orbiters of the women I'm f*cking. Their arrogance and their false belief that they are actually competing with me. NOPE, there is no competition since I have no goal. I'm living my life and spinning plates while he is analyzing and strategizing ways to f*ck this ONE woman who isn't even interested. :crackup:

 

[Hollowpoints]

This is 100% true.

As the man.. your only focus should be on sex. Because in the end.. that is all women are for. In relationships they are parasitic.. so the man really doesn't benefit. Plus, he has to "commit" which means no access to other women. Pretty stupid and beta in reality. Men do it out of laziness and lack of options. Women know this.. which is why women have the advantage in "relationships" while men have the advantage in the stage where you are f*cking but not "official".

Life is like a large rich cake and women are like one small peace of one small slice. Men make women too important.. which is why women don't respect them.

Dating and f*cking is easy for me simply because I care more about myself than women.. and it shows. Women like the challenge. They like the sex. They like competing with other women. They like that fear of the unknown. And because I am so elusive.. they fall fast and hard. They turn to their effeminate beta orbiters for therapy when they can't lock me down.

Its so funny to meet the beta orbiters of the women I'm f*cking. Their arrogance and their false belief that they are actually competing with me. NOPE, there is no competition since I have no goal. I'm living my life and spinning plates while he is analyzing and strategizing ways to f*ck this ONE woman who isn't even interested. :crackup:

Wrong again. There are no absolutes.

You are fantasizing again. Making up stories with your keyboard beta boogeyman / slayer character.

If a woman wants a man who is high value in her eyes and attractive even if he wants a relationship it's not going to kill her interest. Wanting a relationship only kills interest for beta keyboard characters who pretend to be something they aren't online so they go their own way...but still don't accomplish that.

You can't take someone who has nothing. Offers nothing. Doesn't care and make him irresistible to females if he isn't what they want as far as looks, social skills, dress, grooming, what he has to offer.

All different kinds of females like different guys. You are just playing a character online and doing a horrible job of it. No one can be every man to every woman just like every woman cannot make herself attractive to every or most men because she "doesn't care" and is selfish.

Have fun playing your role and put your Halloween costume away before your mom catches you playing keyboard dress up again.

 

[skinnyguy]

Wrong again. There are no absolutes.

You are fantasizing again. Making up stories with your keyboard beta boogeyman / slayer character.

If a woman wants a man who is high value in her eyes and attractive even if he wants a relationship it's not going to kill her interest. Wanting a relationship only kills interest for beta keyboard characters who pretend to be something they aren't online so they go their own way...but still don't accomplish that.

You can't take someone who has nothing. Offers nothing. Doesn't care and make him irresistible to females if he isn't what they want as far as looks, social skills, dress, grooming, what he has to offer.

All different kinds of females like different guys. You are just playing a character online and doing a horrible job of it. No one can be every man to every woman just like every woman cannot make herself attractive to every or most men because she "doesn't care" and is selfish.

Have fun playing your role and put your Halloween costume away before your mom catches you playing keyboard dress up again.

Ya, I can just make up that I've slept with 3000 women and no one would be able to verify. Thing about the Internet is you can put on any persona you want. You can lie about your race, the women you're fvcking, lay count, status, money, etc

And I think we all know that a high value man would never brag about himself on a forum that was designed to help guys get laid.

 

[Hollowpoints]

Ya, I can just make up that I've slept with 3000 women and no one would be able to verify. Thing about the Internet is you can put on any persona you want. You can lie about your race, the women you're fvcking, lay count, status, money, etc

And I think we all know that a high value man would never brag about himself on a forum that was designed to help guys get laid.

Yes. Tell everyone online all these hot women want you because you're so "elusive" and you chump everyone else who are "Betas" because they're in relationships and all their women are sleeping with you. You offer women nothing yet they still want you but at the same time for some reason being such a most wanted man these same women who want you so much over every other guy aren't to be trusted and are hypergamous even though they haven't taken anything from you because you offered them nothing to begin with.

Then spam alpha fvcks beta bucks while then telling everyone your secret method is to buy drunk women at bars drinks by paying big tips in hopes you get laid or if they don't drink they aren't DTF.

MGTOW keyboard character story time. :crackup:

 

[Poon King]

Looks like we have the jealous betas sniffing around.

How about you two losers try to learn from me instead of just whining 24/7? That might be a good start.

 

[Trump]

If a woman wants a man who is high value in her eyes and attractive even if he wants a relationship it's not going to kill her interest.

It won't kill her interest but she will eventually make life living hell for him. There is no benefit for a woman to commit to a guy in 2015. She's not going to commit to any high value guy if she doesn't have to, she will string him along as best she can.

Women aren't dumb, they are expert negotiators when it comes to a man wanting a relationship, marriage, kids, or anything that closely resembles any type or permanent family type 1950's setting.

 

[Hollowpoints]

It won't kill her interest but she will eventually make life living hell for him. There is no benefit for a woman to commit to a guy in 2015. She's not going to commit to any high value guy if she doesn't have to, she will string him along as best she can.

Women aren't dumb, they are expert negotiators when it comes to a man wanting a relationship, marriage, kids, or anything that closely resembles any type or permanent family type 1950's setting.

Speak for yourself. You arent a woman let alone every woman. If your experience is getting strung along then work on yourself and the women you choose.