KontrollerX
Master Don Juan
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"One thing we should all keep in mind that BPD individuals only account for between 1 and 2 percent of the population... at least as far as the qualify under the "official" designation of having 5 out of 9 symptoms. That's not very much, people, so we can't go about labelling every overly-emotional girl a BPD chick."
The 1 and 2 percent of the population is only counted from those that seek out treatment. The real number is probably far more than we could ever imagine since many of these people tend to not know they have a problem and think of themselves as normal until later in life they finally have the thought after all of their failed relationships that something might be wrong with them.
Also no one is labelling every emotional girl as a BPD or some other Cluster B here just for the sake of doing it.
The fact of the matter is the guys that come here came here from a severely beta pvssy like AFC mindset and this is the kind of mindset that Cluster B loves the most as its AFC's they can get the most out of and use with impunity.
So its no surprise that the vast majority of forum goers here have had a run in with one or two.
This kind of post you've made annoys me to no end as its easy to tell depression or bipolar from something far more severe such as Cluster B and I'm not even really attacking you but I see this ignorant claim brought up time and time again here from guys who don't stop and consider the vast AFC population we have on this board and their prediliction for running into and being prime candidates of victimization by Cluster B.
AFC's love to let women come to them as they don't have the balls to approach, well Cluster B's love to seek out attention and will throw themselves all over a guy who has somehow captured their interest and what better luck an AFC thinks to himself than this Cluster B chick thats all over him for reasons he can't explain...he's just happy some girl has shown him attention so he doesn't have to do any approach work and risk rejection.
"BPD is also not infrequent in men, though it is something like 75% women."
Yeah a lot of men have it too probably in equal number but this is completely irrelevant to bring up as this is a forum for talking about women.
"As for being evil, that just doesn't help. You can't classify someone with a scientifically-based term like BPD and then say they CHOSE to become that way. BPD, it's believed, comes from an absence of caring by the parents or outright abuse."
No one is saying they choose to become BPD what we are saying based on psychologist testimony from Al Bernstein that despite being a BPD they know right and wrong like someone without BPD ie a normal human and because of this they can be held accountable for their actions.
Also BPD and mental health issues in general aren't an exact science.
Many professionally written books about these people say that the conditions are suggested only after a lot of testimony from friends, family and partners as well the patient themselves and most importantly that there isn't an official type questionairre that has been designed to 100% accurately be able to tell what type of Cluster B a person is after they fill out the form (save for the psychopathy checklist developed by Robert Hare to tell if someone is a psychopath today known as Anti Social Personality Disorder.) Its a lot of guess work from professionals as well testimony from the person about their life as well friends and family if they are allowed to be involved in the process. Its really not a lot different from how we make a guess of a poster's nightmare likely being a BPD. We wait until we see a large number of signs and its then not hard to suggest BPD or HPD as the culprit.
"I'm not saying that "they just can't help it" and we should just let them revel in terrible behaviour, but it's not as simple as that. We can applaud the ones who fight against it by seeking counselling or therapy or drugs or whatever, and deride those that use their condition continually as an excuse. I'm also sure that a lot of BPD women have no idea that they have a condition, as they're probably averse to admitting that they have a problem quite frequently."
Some know, some don't. The percent that is counted as being the number among the population are the ones that know. The ones that don't likely outnumber the ones that do vastly whether its by denial or literally not knowing.
Society feels their effects nevertheless via broken homes, suicides, the horrible teacher you just couldn't reason with, the corrupt politician, the unreasonable drill instructor, the abusive prison guard, the violent cop, the manipulative lawyer etc. Cluster B is in my estimation responsible for the greatest horrors committed by humanity on this planet. Their numbers increase every 50 years and always bring with the increase more devastation.
The 1 and 2 percent of the population is only counted from those that seek out treatment. The real number is probably far more than we could ever imagine since many of these people tend to not know they have a problem and think of themselves as normal until later in life they finally have the thought after all of their failed relationships that something might be wrong with them.
Also no one is labelling every emotional girl as a BPD or some other Cluster B here just for the sake of doing it.
The fact of the matter is the guys that come here came here from a severely beta pvssy like AFC mindset and this is the kind of mindset that Cluster B loves the most as its AFC's they can get the most out of and use with impunity.
So its no surprise that the vast majority of forum goers here have had a run in with one or two.
This kind of post you've made annoys me to no end as its easy to tell depression or bipolar from something far more severe such as Cluster B and I'm not even really attacking you but I see this ignorant claim brought up time and time again here from guys who don't stop and consider the vast AFC population we have on this board and their prediliction for running into and being prime candidates of victimization by Cluster B.
AFC's love to let women come to them as they don't have the balls to approach, well Cluster B's love to seek out attention and will throw themselves all over a guy who has somehow captured their interest and what better luck an AFC thinks to himself than this Cluster B chick thats all over him for reasons he can't explain...he's just happy some girl has shown him attention so he doesn't have to do any approach work and risk rejection.
"BPD is also not infrequent in men, though it is something like 75% women."
Yeah a lot of men have it too probably in equal number but this is completely irrelevant to bring up as this is a forum for talking about women.
"As for being evil, that just doesn't help. You can't classify someone with a scientifically-based term like BPD and then say they CHOSE to become that way. BPD, it's believed, comes from an absence of caring by the parents or outright abuse."
No one is saying they choose to become BPD what we are saying based on psychologist testimony from Al Bernstein that despite being a BPD they know right and wrong like someone without BPD ie a normal human and because of this they can be held accountable for their actions.
Also BPD and mental health issues in general aren't an exact science.
Many professionally written books about these people say that the conditions are suggested only after a lot of testimony from friends, family and partners as well the patient themselves and most importantly that there isn't an official type questionairre that has been designed to 100% accurately be able to tell what type of Cluster B a person is after they fill out the form (save for the psychopathy checklist developed by Robert Hare to tell if someone is a psychopath today known as Anti Social Personality Disorder.) Its a lot of guess work from professionals as well testimony from the person about their life as well friends and family if they are allowed to be involved in the process. Its really not a lot different from how we make a guess of a poster's nightmare likely being a BPD. We wait until we see a large number of signs and its then not hard to suggest BPD or HPD as the culprit.
"I'm not saying that "they just can't help it" and we should just let them revel in terrible behaviour, but it's not as simple as that. We can applaud the ones who fight against it by seeking counselling or therapy or drugs or whatever, and deride those that use their condition continually as an excuse. I'm also sure that a lot of BPD women have no idea that they have a condition, as they're probably averse to admitting that they have a problem quite frequently."
Some know, some don't. The percent that is counted as being the number among the population are the ones that know. The ones that don't likely outnumber the ones that do vastly whether its by denial or literally not knowing.
Society feels their effects nevertheless via broken homes, suicides, the horrible teacher you just couldn't reason with, the corrupt politician, the unreasonable drill instructor, the abusive prison guard, the violent cop, the manipulative lawyer etc. Cluster B is in my estimation responsible for the greatest horrors committed by humanity on this planet. Their numbers increase every 50 years and always bring with the increase more devastation.
