The Most Painful Words a Woman Can Tell You

[Frank2500]

As I reflect on my past experiences, I'm just amazed at how insensitive, heartless and cut-throat many American women can be when it comes to dating. I'm not sure how many of you may have heard these words or experienced this, but in my opinion, these are some of the most painful words that a woman can do to hurt your feelings. And in this case it isn't about lying that she has a boyfriend to try to get you away. It is when things start to get sour with a woman you really had feelings for and had been out on perhaps a few dates (even if just one or two) and who knows exactly how you feel about her because you've expressed this through words and also by action. Then she says to you: "However, I have to be honest. Or: "I did not feel the same way that you did." Then, they often take it to the next step by telling you that they "hope you could share those same feelings again with another woman" or that "you deserve to be with someone who feels like you do; I hope you find her."


Those words can pierce into your heart like a sharp sword, because she's basically telling you that she doesn't view you at all on the same level of attraction. I have experienced that at least from three, different women. I have to be honest. It hurt a whole lot, but by the time I got it from the third woman, the effects didn't last for long and with each of them, I was able to give them a piece of my mind. It's just amazing the stuff men have to put up with when it comes to dating and relationships here in the States. I watched the movie "Hitch" some time last month, and it was the same classic story that most of us on here can relate to: A sweet, genuinely nice and kind man with a heart of gold who got passed over by the object of his affection, and whose emotions were taken advantage of and trampled upon. The incident transformed him forever. I'm just truly amazed by this double standard where such women think it is fair game for them to continually hurt men's feelings and that if a man expresses himself when he's been hurt, it means that he's weak. The extent at which these women are so cold-hearted and insensitive and inconsiderate is mind boggling.


I write this post to encourage any men on here who like me are still single and who sometimes may feel discouraged when like me, they walk on the street alone and see couples kissing and holding hands; men who like me, go to movies alone, etc. Sometimes it gets quite discouraging, frustrating and even despairing. But you know what? Let's continue to keep our heads up. There is someone out there for all of us. This is my 11th year being single, and the 11th year in which I haven't celebrated Valentine's Day with anyone. I'm not sure if anyone on the board has been single for as long as me...meeting one shallow and heartless woman after another after another for all these years. Sitting on the train by myself watching men and women this Valentine's Day holding flowers and heart-shaped balloons to give to their lovers was tough. It is unfortunate that good men have to go through all the terrible b--ches in between before eventually stumbling upon the right one. But I won't give up. I look at all of my painful experiences as a weeding out process, and those women, as not deserving of me. I have had to be strong, because these things can have a really tremendous impact on your heart.


So to the single men on this board, do not despair. No matter how bad your experiences may have been, do not give up. Think positive, respect yourself, believe that you deserve a lot better and think of yourself as a prize and a great catch, and hopefully, you will attract a woman who deserves you someday. Sometimes, as they say, true love may come your way when you least expect it. Take care, folks.

 

[Strip Club Inspector]

Lots of jerks are former nice guys who have had their hearts broken. They put women on a pedestal, they are receptive to their femininity and attractiveness, and then get stomped or rejected or whatever.

I think the root of this heartbreak is to take her lack of the same feelings as a judgment on you and your character and your attractiveness. It is to make your self esteem dependent on externals, approval, and achievement. It is not. It has to come from within. Dating is a barter market. It's one you for one her. It's hard to match those things up even in the best of times.

The whole point of this site is to get out of the I must be a jerk, or I must be a pathetic AFC, dichotomy. You must transcend the desire for approval and affirmation from women. It must come from within. You will still like and want women for dating for sex for companionship etc. But it will be meeting them on an equal plane--indeed, often a superior plane because of your higher self-esteem.

There is no need to turn into a woman-hater or a resentful bitter person. But the negative feelings in you are corrosive to your game and to your character. They become self-fulfilling prophecies. They can make you the unattractive, desperate, angry, bitter, resentful, and negative person that is rightly rejected even by quality women.

People do things not in their best interests all the time, and this includes women who reject quality men. But the other point of this site is to redefine quality. It's not to be a doormat, a servant, or a friggin' master of ceremonies. Women's intuition is quite sensible: they want the quality product that is a bit unavailable. The goal of this site is get you on the road of being a real man: strong, self-confident, capable, useful, helpful, fun, sexual, and in touch but not a slave to his emotions and desires. Be this man and you will get the woman you want. Pretend to be this man, but deep inside remain a child hurting for total acceptance and total approval and you will repeatedly fail. There is much truth to the "inner child" concept so prevalent in other more prosaic self-help communities, i.e., 12 Step Programs.

I don't know you or your situation. I don't discount your feelings of pain or hurt and desire. But you need to get out of yourself and your desires, pardoxically, to succeed in the dating game and in the game of life. You must genuinely want to know others. You must genuinely and deeply recognize their individuality and peculiarities, which will oftentimes mean that you must have deep acceptance of the fact that things just don't always work out. You must desire to help people not out of a desire for approval but out of magnanimity, "great souledness" and compassion for others struggling where you once struggled. That's the best thing about this site: to share your wisdom with newbies who could really benefit from learning from our collective mistakes learned the hard-way. This is the good side of Alpha: the teacher, the mentor, the man who helps others because he is complete in himself and sees beauty in the completeness of others.

Look at yourself and your behaviors; are you a man that is not merely wanting but also offering something, the gift of you, this desired thing that picks and chooses who to let in out of high standards based on a high (but realistic) notion of self-worth? Or, like most AFCs, do you just lose it emotionally when someone, anyone, finally gives you a hint of that acceptance, thereby ruining your midgame with excessive gestures of fidelity and excitement which signal your deep inner desperation?

I hope this helped. Good luck in the game.

 

[DJDamage]

Those words can pierce into your heart like a sharp sword, because she's basically telling you that she doesn't view you at all on the same level of attraction. I have experienced that at least from three, different women. I have to be honest. It hurt a whole lot, but by the time I got it from the third woman, the effects didn't last for long and with each of them, I was able to give them a piece of my mind.

You were able to give them a piece of your mind? what does that mean?? are you saying that after they said they don't want to see you anymore you end up chewing them up good?! is there any wonder why women don't like confortation with some men and avoid it in all costs??!

This thread is very sappy. You are pointing a finger at the women as if they are evil or something when they break up with a man. Attraction is not a choice and if a woman's interest level are not high enough she is going to bolt - accept this reality and don't take it personally.

 

[Frank2500]

Re:

Hello There Strip Club Inspector,

I appreciate your feedback and comments. They were really deep, insightful and helpful. When I look at my life right now when it comes to dating, I think that I have made quite a good number of steps toward self-improvement, and that these are gradually starting to produce some beneficial results. I'm not going to lie, and you sensed this in my post, I have been through so many heartbreaking experiences with an overwhelming majority of American women that I have met and those experiences greatly affected my life and my self-esteem. But this site, and even little things like working out and setting some time aside just to think more positively about myself, have helped a lot. Every now and then, when I talk to a woman and it produces an unfavorable result, memories of past negative experiences come back to light and I feel a lot of anger internally, and quite a bit of bitterness.


I'm not sure if you got a chance to read my post about an encounter I had with a really b-tchy woman at my gym who stood up one morning and began to yell in my face, disrespecting me in front of everyone. During my AFC days, I probably would have been scared to death and would have simply let her walk away and tried to plead with her to forgive me. But I stood up to her and told her to get out of my face and to this day, when she sees me she avoids me, can barely look in my face and is constantly humbled around my presence. I don't consider myself a "woman-hater" because I have had very positive experiences with women from other parts of the world. I do agree with much of your analysis and suggestions, but I also think that many of these women need to take responsibility for the messed up state of affairs in terms of dating and relationships today. Many of them make dating a lot more complicated than it needs to be. I think I had written this observation in another post. For instance, what do you do with a woman who:

-Rejects a man for being naturally soft-spoken because she thinks it implies that he's weak and won't be able to stand up for himself and her.

-At the same time, she will feel threatened by that same man if he were too outspoken and would consider him verbally abusive, ready to call the cops on him.

-Rejects a man for being too good looking; she feels intimidated. Also rejects a man for "not being good looking enough."

-Blames men for not being emotional and sensitive enough, but rejects those who are for the same reasons.

-Rejects a good man when he comes into her life because she thinks he's too perfect. She gets scared and doesn't think she can handle it.

The fact of the matter is, American women can't eat their cake and have it. Relationships are about compromise. These women have an endless list of standards for men to adhere to, that most of them can't even meet half of the time. Relationships and love are about compromise. One of the lessons I have learned on this board is to work more on my self-esteem and to develop a back bone. That wisdom, in addition to lifting weights, has turned me into someone who I know for sure women can't talk to carelessly and disrespect verbally. But I too need to have my own standards. I'm not going to keep on changing myself just to satisfy some of these women's selfish needs. If they won't accept me for who I am, they may as well get lost.

I think the best solution for me at this point would be to get with a woman who shares a culture similar to me, or a woman from Europe or any other place in the world. Now, this is just my personal opinion based on my experiences...but I think many American women just have too many issues.

 

[Desdinova]

Then she says to you: "However, I have to be honest. Or: "I did not feel the same way that you did." Then, they often take it to the next step by telling you that they "hope you could share those same feelings again with another woman" or that "you deserve to be with someone who feels like you do; I hope you find her."

Damn, and I thought the most painful words were going to be "I'm HIV Positive"

 

[Mental]

So to the single men on this board, do not despair. No matter how bad your experiences may have been, do not give up. Think positive, respect yourself, believe that you deserve a lot better and think of yourself as a prize and a great catch, and hopefully, you will attract a woman who deserves you someday. Sometimes, as they say, true love may come your way when you least expect it. Take care, folks.

Pfffth. Suuuuuuuuure. Ya know, I have been doing what I can to stay postive, which is not always so easy. But when someone gives me a platitude, I get really annoyed. When you're USED to rude behavior from women, (not that you tolerate it or keep kissing her butt) it's not the easiest to stay happy, positive, and not be at least a little bit angry.

I do try to stay positive. But when I'm told that "everything happens for a reason" or "stay positive" I end up wanting to throw up on those people.

 

[Frank2500]

Re: Need to Take a Break from the Forum

I can understand where you're coming from, Mental. Honestly, at this point in my life, I think it would be appropriate for me to take a break from this forum and just proceed with my dating attempts according to my own flow. I do enjoy this site and I appreciate much of the feedback, which I find for the most part quite helpful. However, on the other hand, sometimes some of the comments a couple of folks write on here do more harm than good for the brokenhearted. This forum, depending on the responses, can make a man feel like a real loser just because he doesn't have a girlfriend at the moment. Their comments make the dating game seem to be a whole lot more complicated than it should be, and portray women as people with way, more power than they actually have. Sometimes, you can lose all sense of hope from reading certain comments folks write here and if your self-esteem already isn't strong enough, it will be weakened even some more and you will feel like a real loser.


I think I have reached that point in my life where the most essential things I needed such as gaining more self esteem, confidence, and developing a backbone, are in the process of being achieved. Sometimes, sitting on here for several minutes many days of the week reading some of these comments have actually made me feel discouraged to even attempt approaching women, not because I feel intimidated, but because I get so overwhelmed in my mind with all of the approach suggestions and what to say or what not to say that I get even more nervous than I did in the previous years when I just used to hustle and do my own thing. So I will take a break from this forum, focus on improving myself physically by working out and also intellectually and spiritually, and continue to examine what my options may be with the women I encounter. When all of that is done and for the most part significantly achieved, I will then come back here to visit and find out what's been going on.

 

[DJF or John]

Oh Frank, oh Frank, how art thou heart hurts so much!

"Those words can pierce into your heart like a sharp sword, because she's basically telling you that she doesn't view you at all on the same level of attraction. I have experienced that at least from three, different women. I have to be honest."

Oh Frank, oh Frank, how why art thou heart hurt so much?

"I'm not going to lie, and you sensed this in my post, I have been through so many heartbreaking experiences with an overwhelming majority of American women that I have met and those experiences greatly affected my life and my self-esteem."

Frank, oh Frank....maybe it's me, DonJuanForever, who can shed some light on thee!

Okay, I'm not Shakespere, I'm not Othello....but one thing I am is up to date.

Today, in this world Frank, we live in a world that is NO longer a family-oriented, big house, little dog, two kids, nice car, happy go lucky home. Those days are over, those days were over when my Mother and Father were born during the Baby Boom.

The field today is different, but actually, it's a positive and negative to this.

Women have always since the beginning of time, LOVED and LIVED sex much more then we ever could. It's just that TODAY, they have come out the closet.

They have taken off the veils, and they have taken charge, and they have now become like US! Lol, that's right, they stick and move.

They want to get it, and they will get it. The man with all the sexual power, that's the man that she wants. She wants to fvck, and she wants to fvck often, many, many, many, many, many times!

So while 90% of guys HAVE NOT caught up with this new trend, and are still stuck in the wrong ERA, allow me to bring you to the other side?

 

[DJF or John]

I said this before, but sexual state, sexual flow, and sexual mindset, is what gets a woman to fvck you today.

You don't have to have good looks, you dont' have to be a man, you dont' have to have goals, you don't have to have ambition, you don't have to be a provider, you don't have to be a protector, you don't have to be any god damned thing but a man that can SHOW OFF HIS SEXUALITY (sexual state) and BACK UP HIS SEXUALITY (fvck good).

And the man with the MOST sexual state, the MOST sexual power, THAT'S the man that the girls are calling. That's the man that they are running to. That's the man.....whether he be a priest or a devil, a straight man or a fvcking gay man...that's the man that the girls are SPENDING THEIR TIMES WITH.

I said, 95% of women DON'T LIKE YOU, they just want you to fvck them good. That means, my dear Frank, that the field is no longer as it used to be!

Women used to require boys to be men, THAT'S OVER.
Women used to require men to be protectors, THAT'S OVER.
Women used to require men to be provicers, THAT'S OVER.
Women used to require men to have ambition, THAT'S OVER.
Women used to require men to have goals, THAT'S OVER.
Women used to require men to have good looks, THAT'S OVER.
Women used to require men have a "life", THAT'S OVER.

IT'S OVER! OVER!!!

Look at this site! Look at how it preaches that you must be a man, you must be successful, you must be this or that....how wrong is that sermon?

Why you will find and notice, that the guy with nolife, no goals, no nothing, will fvck all the chicks in the town and the chicks will TAKE CARE OF HIM!

Becasue in TODAY'S WORLD....chicks are looking for one thing, and one thing only, SEXUAL POWER.

If you have sexual power, you have her. You have her time. You have her wallet. You have her car keys. You have her friends. You have her parents. You have her family. You have her fvcking everything.

Why is it that you think, guys that act more like thugs and bad boys fvck more than guys that act more like nice guys and great guys of society? Why is that? Think about it.......

Sexual Power, sexual state, sexual mindset, is DIRTY. Oh yes, it's dirty.

I sit there, and during a normal conversation, I am seducing the fvck outta this chick. My hand is on my balls, my lips are being licked, my eyes are pentrating her god damn soul, and that bytch can't do anything but get horny. Lol...and I'm doing this shyt in church! How wrong is that! Lol, how unethcial is that they say!

Nice guys and great men of society, this sexual state, this sexual power, this sexual mindset, lol, these guys are so busy chasing down giants, winning business proposals, and conquering worlds...they have no fvcking idea waht a sexual mindset is.

Matter of fact, when they are talking to a chick, their mind if on anything BUT SEX! They are programmed to NOT SHOW A CHICK ANY DESIRE!

 

[Mental]

I can understand where you're coming from, Mental. Honestly, at this point in my life, I think it would be appropriate for me to take a break from this forum and just proceed with my dating attempts according to my own flow. I do enjoy this site and I appreciate much of the feedback, which I find for the most part quite helpful. However, on the other hand, sometimes some of the comments a couple of folks write on here do more harm than good for the brokenhearted. This forum, depending on the responses, can make a man feel like a real loser just because he doesn't have a girlfriend at the moment. Their comments make the dating game seem to be a whole lot more complicated than it should be, and portray women as people with way, more power than they actually have. Sometimes, you can lose all sense of hope from reading certain comments folks write here and if your self-esteem already isn't strong enough, it will be weakened even some more and you will feel like a real loser.


I think I have reached that point in my life where the most essential things I needed such as gaining more self esteem, confidence, and developing a backbone, are in the process of being achieved. Sometimes, sitting on here for several minutes many days of the week reading some of these comments have actually made me feel discouraged to even attempt approaching women, not because I feel intimidated, but because I get so overwhelmed in my mind with all of the approach suggestions and what to say or what not to say that I get even more nervous than I did in the previous years when I just used to hustle and do my own thing. So I will take a break from this forum, focus on improving myself physically by working out and also intellectually and spiritually, and continue to examine what my options may be with the women I encounter. When all of that is done and for the most part significantly achieved, I will then come back here to visit and find out what's been going on.

And yeah, I agree at certain parts with you. And part of me is still glad that you're trying to be different and not cut people down (a somewhat common thing here, IMHO)But still, honestly, even though I'm a lot more secure, and I no longer would accept the garbage that I used to in high school, and I'll call a chick when she's blatently nasty or rude, (and I do a LOT of sarcastic teasing) I'm still considered a niceguy.

I don't know if that's because chicks don't REALLY consciously understand the difference, and so many label anyone who is KIND (there's a difference) as a niceguy, or if I'm somehow STILL giving of the vibe of being too nice, which is very frustrating. It's the last thing I want, and yet, I'm still "sweet." and therefore, I'm completely deemed worthless in a woman's mind.

And I know you were trying to be sincere. But coming from getting a lot of advice about "be yourself" and "stay positive" and all that mumbo jumbo, I still getting the feeling that it's all a platitude. You know, stuff from my mom and from so called women "friends" who all say the same thing, or give useless advice like "When you're out on your own, you'll make a woman very happy."

My frustrations lie in that my version of success (and god's version of it, if you believe in that) has absolutely nothing to do with how the world views you. And as the world keeps viewing you in a certain light, it can be tough to try and not end up judging yourself as the world does.

Anyhoo, I'm looking forward to seeing you on the boards again, my man. Good luck.

 

[DJF or John]

Frank what am I saying?
Should I just be "Frank" about what I'm saying lol?

Lol, I hate to keep going back to sales, but if I didn't keep up with my customers, I couldn't sell shyt. What if I still SOLD to my customers today like they were SOLD 20 years ago? Would not I look stupid? All the advances in technology, implementation problems, "finding a reason to buy" problems, customers needs have changed, etc.

Okay, why are guys still approaching women like their grandfathers did? Lol, that day is over!

The relationship days, are over!

This is the day, of getting laid!

That's right, laid!

Adn as soon as you get up to date with the market, the sooner the sales will fly the fvck in.

- Stop trying to get relationships. 95% of women DON'T LIKE YOU, they just want DYCK.
- Stop trying to please women, 95% of women want a great dyck, and if you give them a great dyck, THEY WANT TO PLEASE YOU.
- Stop living in theories, like, "What do I say?" "What did she mean when she did this?" "What shoudl I say on the phone?" "How shoudl I eat my popcorn at Norbit, should I eat it slow or fast?" The days of planned routes, planned procedures, planned actions, ARE GONE!

What's the solution to this new marketplace? The only solution is to become valuable, and understand, if the marketplace has CHANGED, what was valuable BEFORE, won't be valuable NOW.

Yesterday, it was VALUABLE to have goals, ambitions, charm, confidence, masculinity, toughness, being a hero, being a provider, good looks, etc., etc.

TODAY, it's VALUABLE, to have a high amount of sexual POWER. Sexual flow, sexual vibe, sexual, sexual, sexuallllllll.

You guys have got to get with the fvcking program. You have got to get with the current.

Why are you still theorizing? There is no theories!
Why are you still planning? There is no plans!
Why are you spending so much time in self-improvement seminars, gyms, etc. all to get laid? There's no PHYSICAL REQUIREMENTS ANYMORE!

Listen to the girls scream, listen to them:

"Come and fvck us!"
"Come and fvck us!"
"Come and fvck us!"
"Come and fvck us!"

I will UP my sexual flow and state, and I will deliver these bytches the best sexual experience of all time and keep that bytch coming back each night!

"Come and fvck us!"
"Come and fvck us!"

I will learn how to STAY in sexual state, LIVE in sexual state, and give her a nut BEFORE I even stick my dyck in!

"Come and fvck us!"
"Come and fvck us!"

I will learn how to FVCK, so when I fvck that bytch she will have the best nuts she's ever had in her life!

"Yes!"
"Yes!"

I now know, that what mattered yesterday, is not what my focus is on today! For yesterday! I used my muscles, my career, my car, my toughness, my manness, my confidence, and leverage them to get women!

"Boring!"
"Boring!"

But now I know, that TODAY...I must focus on my sexual state, and have the highest, smoothest, greatest, sexual state going....

"Come on Daddy!"
"Come on Daddy!"

And lure the bytches into my sexual world....through my sexual power...that is...my Sexual state!

"OOOH!"
"OOOH!"

And then...I will fvck them, like they have never been fvcked before!"

"Yes!"

What's my name!

"John!"

What's my name!

"John!"

Bytch...I SAID...WHAT'S MY...MOTA....FVCKIN....NAMMMEEEEEEEEE

"Joooohhhnnnnnnn!!!!!!"

 

[THE_ADDMAN]

Frank what am I saying?
Should I just be "Frank" about what I'm saying lol?

Lol, I hate to keep going back to sales, but if I didn't keep up with my customers, I couldn't sell shyt. What if I still SOLD to my customers today like they were SOLD 20 years ago? Would not I look stupid? All the advances in technology, implementation problems, "finding a reason to buy" problems, customers needs have changed, etc.

Okay, why are guys still approaching women like their grandfathers did? Lol, that day is over!

The relationship days, are over!

This is the day, of getting laid!

That's right, laid!

Adn as soon as you get up to date with the market, the sooner the sales will fly the fvck in.

- Stop trying to get relationships. 95% of women DON'T LIKE YOU, they just want DYCK.
- Stop trying to please women, 95% of women want a great dyck, and if you give them a great dyck, THEY WANT TO PLEASE YOU.
- Stop living in theories, like, "What do I say?" "What did she mean when she did this?" "What shoudl I say on the phone?" "How shoudl I eat my popcorn at Norbit, should I eat it slow or fast?" The days of planned routes, planned procedures, planned actions, ARE GONE!

What's the solution to this new marketplace? The only solution is to become valuable, and understand, if the marketplace has CHANGED, what was valuable BEFORE, won't be valuable NOW.

Yesterday, it was VALUABLE to have goals, ambitions, charm, confidence, masculinity, toughness, being a hero, being a provider, good looks, etc., etc.

TODAY, it's VALUABLE, to have a high amount of sexual POWER. Sexual flow, sexual vibe, sexual, sexual, sexuallllllll.

You guys have got to get with the fvcking program. You have got to get with the current.

Why are you still theorizing? There is no theories!
Why are you still planning? There is no plans!
Why are you spending so much time in self-improvement seminars, gyms, etc. all to get laid? There's no PHYSICAL REQUIREMENTS ANYMORE!

Listen to the girls scream, listen to them:

"Come and fvck us!"
"Come and fvck us!"
"Come and fvck us!"
"Come and fvck us!"

I will UP my sexual flow and state, and I will deliver these bytches the best sexual experience of all time and keep that bytch coming back each night!

"Come and fvck us!"
"Come and fvck us!"

I will learn how to STAY in sexual state, LIVE in sexual state, and give her a nut BEFORE I even stick my dyck in!

"Come and fvck us!"
"Come and fvck us!"

I will learn how to FVCK, so when I fvck that bytch she will have the best nuts she's ever had in her life!

"Yes!"
"Yes!"

I now know, that what mattered yesterday, is not what my focus is on today! For yesterday! I used my muscles, my career, my car, my toughness, my manness, my confidence, and leverage them to get women!

"Boring!"
"Boring!"

But now I know, that TODAY...I must focus on my sexual state, and have the highest, smoothest, greatest, sexual state going....

"Come on Daddy!"
"Come on Daddy!"

And lure the bytches into my sexual world....through my sexual power...that is...my Sexual state!

"OOOH!"
"OOOH!"

And then...I will fvck them, like they have never been fvcked before!"

"Yes!"

What's my name!

"John!"

What's my name!

"John!"

Bytch...I SAID...WHAT'S MY...MOTA....FVCKIN....NAMMMEEEEEEEEE

"Joooohhhnnnnnnn!!!!!!"

haha how Pook-ish of you

 

[Charm]

Damn, and I thought the most painful words were going to be "I'm HIV Positive"

Actually the most painful words are: I'm Pregnant with twins and I'm HIV Positive and Im ****ing your best friend now but the babies are yours and I was sucking your best friends **** that one time you called and I told you I was at my parents house.

 

[Strip Club Inspector]

Funny. I think, "I wasn't always a woman" might be more painful.

PS, if you want to see ****y/funny/sexual flow in action go check out Tucker Max's website. He and I actually went to college together.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

I'm on my laptop at work slacking off.

Frank2005,

I identify with your thread and pretty much have the same attitude that you do more or less.

What makes them painful is not that any woman is telling you that, but it would seem like every women you are attracted to seem to have some sort of conspiracy to say those words, or even actions that would say the same thing. Subconciously, we just get programmed into believing that this is a result of every interaction with objects of attraction. You like them, and they either like someone else, or just see you as a friend/brother.

Stuff like this gets me so frustrated that I could look at porn and put an ad on adultfriendfinder to get laid. Or maybe it's the fact I live at home and am under mom. Are you also a momma's boy? Maybe it's the momma's boy aura that's jinyxing things up in the ladies department. Is your mom dominating your life?

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Damn, and I thought the most painful words were going to be "I'm HIV Positive"

This is before having sex. That's less painful than being LJBF befoe sex, so you are wrong.

In fact, this is the best line for women who want to reject someone without hurting their feelings, since no guy is desperate enough to have sex to contract AIDS and that will just scare people off.

 

[Strip Club Inspector]

Luke you are not qualified to discuss this topic; we don't need the blind leading the blind around here. Your problems are manifold, but you should read my second comment above. Again and again and again.

 

[Master Bates]

"That's it?" [upon first seeing your penis]

 

[BluEyes]

I know a dude who has girls left and right.

Let me tell you about him...

He's my age. He looks like orlando bloom. his parents are rich. he is spoiled. his mom shops for all his clothes. he plays world of warcraft alot. he doesnt have a job. he doesnt have any ambitions. he doesnt play any sports. he weighs 120lbs. hes never been into a gym, infact he asks me why i go to the gym. he gets 60s in school. he's clingy. he doesn't like taking risks. he lacks confidence when it comes to everything outside his home.

Yet he pulls girls left and right.

He knows how to mock people, he's witty, and he knows how to tease girls, and he is always giving off sexual vibes.

So essentially, in highschool being a man is not necessary. All you have to do is act sexual and ****y, and girls wet themselves.


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On the other side of the fence, I also pull girls left and right.

I don't look like a model(average at best in my books). my parents are filthy rich. i have good fashion sense now. i don't own any computer games anymore. i have a job. i play sports. i go to the gym. im getting 80s in school now. im the least dependant and clingy person I know. i take risks like there's no tomorrow. and i have confidence for everything.

I don't pull as many b!tches as he does, but the ones I go after are quality girls(hb8-10), great personality, the works. Granted I've never landed a 10, I'm not really that picky.

I'm a pretty funny guy, when I'm "on". Actually I used to be a class clown, so that helped alot with humour. Thank god I outgrew that stage of life. I'm witty, though not nearly as witty as him. And when I'm single I give off sexual vibes to girls Im attracted to.

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Bottom line is, do whatever you want, be whatever you want, but if you aren't sexual around girls then don't expect their panties to be dripping when they see you.

 

[rakishness]

I can understand where you're coming from, Mental. Honestly, at this point in my life, I think it would be appropriate for me to take a break from this forum and just proceed with my dating attempts according to my own flow. I do enjoy this site and I appreciate much of the feedback, which I find for the most part quite helpful. However, on the other hand, sometimes some of the comments a couple of folks write on here do more harm than good for the brokenhearted. This forum, depending on the responses, can make a man feel like a real loser just because he doesn't have a girlfriend at the moment. Their comments make the dating game seem to be a whole lot more complicated than it should be, and portray women as people with way, more power than they actually have. Sometimes, you can lose all sense of hope from reading certain comments folks write here and if your self-esteem already isn't strong enough, it will be weakened even some more and you will feel like a real loser.


I think I have reached that point in my life where the most essential things I needed such as gaining more self esteem, confidence, and developing a backbone, are in the process of being achieved. Sometimes, sitting on here for several minutes many days of the week reading some of these comments have actually made me feel discouraged to even attempt approaching women, not because I feel intimidated, but because I get so overwhelmed in my mind with all of the approach suggestions and what to say or what not to say that I get even more nervous than I did in the previous years when I just used to hustle and do my own thing. So I will take a break from this forum, focus on improving myself physically by working out and also intellectually and spiritually, and continue to examine what my options may be with the women I encounter. When all of that is done and for the most part significantly achieved, I will then come back here to visit and find out what's been going on.

Keep your head up Frank. And keep posting. Just don't read into things too much on this forum.