The most annoying thing about being unsuccessful with women

[Plinco]

All I can tell you is... be the best of your self first, then girls will follow. It took me long years to understand what this meant, and I am still on the path. But like I said, no matter how much you try, girls will not be yours until you understand that you must spend everything (time, money, energy, reading, effort, etc) on yourself first to become a better, successful person with corresponding attitude. Until then, no you won't get girls easily if any.

I think I had this thought before. So, in another words, I should not worry about other people, as they do not pertain to me, and I should just do what I should be doing and the women will come?

 

[Zarky]

I think I had this thought before. So, in another words, I should not worry about other people, as they do not pertain to me, and I should just do what I should be doing and the women will come?

Dear God No. Start asking out a sh*t-ton of women. Want a secret to success? Ask out a sh*t-ton of women.

 

[moneyisking]

hey look chodes. I am a virgin, yes but I can honestly say I live every single day and seconds of my life trying to be the best, successful person I can ever be. I read, work out hardcore, make money (my goal for this summer is donate $1000 to the missions that help poor mexican people), I read books, lots of deep things, and I can say that the past few weeks have been one of most developing days of my life.

If you want to criticize me b/c I am a virgin, go head, chode, but in the end, it looks like you are still thinking about how to bang hot girls 24/7 while I am thinking how to succeed, how to contribute to society, how to have better attitude and how to live a abnormal life in positive ways. WTF are you doing with your life asking superficial stupid sh!t like "oh my god she flaked on me". I can ask girls out right now but I avoid getting into relationships b/c I need to make money to achieve my goal and purpose. Yes, if I pursue relationship, it ain't going to be piece of cake, but I got higher purpose right now in my hand.

Plus sh!t brain, if you read my threads, I am an Asian guy. You know how much of disadvantage that is compared to you guys b/c of this fvcking corrupted media? But guess what. No outside factor can control me, but I control the environment. I am a virgin, but I am progressing in every part of my life, so put your head straight. What the fvck are you doing in your life so far chode? Keep asking stupid crap and saying dumbsh!t and you will never grow up like me or other deep-minded people in this forum.

 

[Scion]

probably the reason ppl are criticizing you is because your a virgin giving advice on a forum which is primarily about getting women.

 

[Groovy]

Seriously this. This all the advice most guys even need,

Yeah I also agree...

If you are in order, everything else WILL BE IN ORDER!! You won't have to worry, for example, "WHAT DO I SAY?!?!" or "DAMN AM I GOOD LOOKING ENOUGH?!!", because you're going to be in a complete different reality. You're going to FEEL powerful, people and women will just be magneticlly attracted to you.

There's something about a guy who's confident, truly confident, just isn't anxious at all... No DJ technique can top that. Not "oh i'm gonna go no contact so she likes me", I don't think it works like that. Just your presence is going to be very powerful,just think about it, all that energy wasted on thinking how other people think about you... If you didn't care, you would have much more peace of mind, and your body would be healthier too. I can't explain it very well, you just got to see it for yourself!

 

[cool dude]

is having to hear idiotic advice from everyone you know on how to become better with women. Especially when anyone who has ever had sex thinks they have a valuable opinion you couldn't possibly have heard. Wow, confidence is important? Really? Gee thanks.

I just wanted to vent and see if anyone else experiences this on a regular basis and hates it...I've been working on my game and appearance for roughly two years, and I've made a hell of a lot of improvement, but it can be a slow process.

Yea bro, ya just might have to find out through trial and error. I got a lot of advice also from peeps, but one thing told I do like is just have fun. Really just have fun, and you display qualities that PEOPLE will love. The problem is, how do you have fun when your having a freaking panic attack, or just a lil nervous. All the answers are inside you already, ya just gotta do some searching, and ask yourself the right questions. DO you keep a journal? Try meditaion to found out a bit about yourself. Just search.

 

[Just a Shot Away]

hey look chodes. I am a virgin, yes but I can honestly say I live every single day and seconds of my life trying to be the best, successful person I can ever be. I read, work out hardcore...

Relax. Nobody's saying you're not a cool guy. But you should realize that virgins giving seduction advice is like listening to Martha Stewart explain the best way to go about knocking out Brock Lesnar in the octagon. That's how you sound to us.

Plus sh!t brain, if you read my threads, I am an Asian guy. You know how much of disadvantage that is...

Oh wow. It's crazy the excuses people come up with. I'm surprised you didn't say something about how you aren't good-looking enough, if you're willing to sink so low as to blame it on your race. Every Asian dude I've ever met is better with women than I am. No excuse.

 

[Plinco]

Dear God No. Start asking out a sh*t-ton of women. Want a secret to success? Ask out a sh*t-ton of women.

That's not exactly what I meant.

 

[Kirro]

Yeah I also agree...

If you are in order, everything else WILL BE IN ORDER!! You won't have to worry, for example, "WHAT DO I SAY?!?!" or "DAMN AM I GOOD LOOKING ENOUGH?!!", because you're going to be in a complete different reality. You're going to FEEL powerful, people and women will just be magneticlly attracted to you.

There's something about a guy who's confident, truly confident, just isn't anxious at all... No DJ technique can top that. Not "oh i'm gonna go no contact so she likes me", I don't think it works like that. Just your presence is going to be very powerful,just think about it, all that energy wasted on thinking how other people think about you... If you didn't care, you would have much more peace of mind, and your body would be healthier too. I can't explain it very well, you just got to see it for yourself!

Almost every male super slvt I know with the pretty boy looks, fancy clothes & uber confidence spent at least a year out of the social game. They spent their time observing, talking to older players & they made money. They worked out, brought the necessary cosmetics & clothes & basically evolved into someone new.

People noticed the change suddenly when they came out of hiding & when it came to women everything they did was effective. Why? Because as you said they were in order.

I see DJ skills as learning a martial art or fighting style. Sure you'll be better than a lot of guys if you simply have more skill but they'll be a wall you can't overcome until you craft that powerful, durable, fast reacting body(looks, money/status).

However most people are lazy fools. Hard work & sacrifice are foreign concepts which is why we will continue to see the same lames *ss threads about the same chump sh*t.

 

[Just a Shot Away]

Sure you'll be better than a lot of guys if you simply have more skill but they'll be a wall you can't overcome until you craft that powerful, durable, fast reacting body(looks, money/status).

I see plenty of fat dudes with girls that won't even touch me. You don't need looks and you don't need money. I hope you don't go around telling people that. Confidence is number one. For you to trump the importance of six-pack abs over confidence raises some serious red flags about the quality of your advice.

 

[Kirro]

I see plenty of fat dudes with girls that won't even touch me. You don't need looks and you don't need money. I hope you don't go around telling people that. Confidence is number one. For you to trump the importance of six-pack abs over confidence raises some serious red flags about the quality of your advice.

You know Rescue Mission & Falcon are gonna flame you right? Also I've seen a fair amount of very good looking men with very average or even below average chicks wrapped around them so I guess it works both ways eh?

Trust me though the vast majority of girls sleep with guys with money & looks follows closely behind. I've observed it, I've lived it. Some of those fat/ugly dudes with so much confidence end up having to share with a superior guy or their chick is taken away.

Both in Barbados & in NY I've seen some below average dudes with a cute chick & I've seen these all confidence no value dudes try an approach & not even get a word in. I didn't laugh I just turned away with a frown. Some fights can't be one with skill alone.

Fact of the matter is if girls prefer fat dudes over you then you SUCK HARD! You must totally go to pieces around girls. By reading how valiantly you preach your confidence>all or confidence is the most important thing I think you that you somehow believe that because you may be considered attractive & you are in a rut that somehow all attractive men will fail without confidence.

However my friend you couldn't be more wrong. What you can do is tell me where you live & hang out. I know a ton of ugly clowns who'd love to be in an area where the ugly prevail.

 

[Just a Shot Away]

You know Rescue Mission & Falcon are gonna flame you right? Also I've seen a fair amount of very good looking men with very average or even below average chicks wrapped around them so I guess it works both ways eh?

Yeah, it does. Even if you're very good-looking, it doesn't mean jack without the confidence to back it up, hence the low-value girls on their arms.

Trust me though the vast majority of girls sleep with guys with money & looks follows closely behind. I've observed it, I've lived it. Some of those fat/ugly dudes with so much confidence end up having to share with a superior guy or their chick is taken away.

This is an "all else being equal" situation. The superior guy that takes these girls away matches the confidence of the fat dude. So in this case, the looks gives them the edge because everything else is identical.

Fact of the matter is if girls prefer fat dudes over you then you SUCK HARD! You must totally go to pieces around girls. By reading how valiantly you preach your confidence>all or confidence is the most important thing I think you that you somehow believe that because you may be considered attractive & you are in a rut that somehow all attractive men will fail without confidence.

Yeah, you got me pretty well figured out. I'm not basing the confidence thing solely off of my own experiences, although that is how it started. I found this out by checking the polls and scientific studies done on this subject, as well as observing female behavior patterns.

However my friend you couldn't be more wrong. What you can do is tell me where you live & hang out. I know a ton of ugly clowns who'd love to be in an area where the ugly prevail.

I don't live in a town where the "ugly prevail", man. I live in a town where the "confident prevail", which is a quality that operates independent of looks. I didn't really want to turn this into yet another full-blown looks thread, I just wanted to point out that it's a mistake to talk about how important it is to hit the gym without making any mention of all about inner game, self-esteem, or confidence. That's like someone who wants to be a professional MMA fighter stressing about what color shorts to wear in the octagon rather than training in the gym.

 

[Kirro]

Yeah, it does. Even if you're very good-looking, it doesn't mean jack without the confidence to back it up, hence the low-value girls on their arms.

I can meet you halfway since you seem to be civil about this. You're half right, if you all your working with is looks and/or money you'll get a ton of low quality chicks. The shallow, useless, ignorant kind however that is the majority of girls though & not just girls most men are pretty useless as well. & like I said earlier it goes both ways. I've seen some pretty great looking men deal with some weird looking chicks & these dudes had every ability to score hotter. So it works both ways.

This is an "all else being equal" situation. The superior guy that takes these girls away matches the confidence of the fat dude. So in this case, the looks gives them the edge because everything else is identical.

Now you're starting to make sense. I'd say he doesn't even have to match the confidence. I myself am a very confident person, it comes naturally. At the height of my confidence, I was taken out by even better looking guy with way more money & status & not even half the confidence I have. He was just confident enough it seemed.

Yeah, you got me pretty well figured out. I'm not basing the confidence thing solely off of my own experiences, although that is how it started. I found this out by checking the polls and scientific studies done on this subject, as well as observing female behavior patterns.

I don't get why you're even here dude. I don't get how you can suck with women it just doesn't make sense. I mean surely if you're past 6 on the looks scale some girls approach you right? Or maybe is it that you're looking for quality women only & reject the shallow chicks?

I don't live in a town where the "ugly prevail", man. I live in a town where the "confident prevail", which is a quality that operates independent of looks. I didn't really want to turn this into yet another full-blown looks thread, I just wanted to point out that it's a mistake to talk about how important it is to hit the gym without making any mention of all about inner game, self-esteem, or confidence. That's like someone who wants to be a professional MMA fighter stressing about what color shorts to wear in the octagon rather than training in the gym.

Don't misunderstand my beliefs man. I think we should be working on ALL areas. One shouldn't rely solely on inner game & one shouldn't rely solely on physical appearance or money. I think we should seek to be as well rounded as possible. Quality woman or not, women love fvcking a guy that turns them on physically. I have some classic examples of this but I rather not say publicly

Fact is I've done my research.

 

[goodfoot]

I see DJ skills as learning a martial art or fighting style. Sure you'll be better than a lot of guys if you simply have more skill but they'll be a wall you can't overcome until you craft that powerful, durable, fast reacting body(looks, money/status).

However most people are lazy fools. Hard work & sacrifice are foreign concepts which is why we will continue to see the same lames *ss threads about the same chump sh*t.

Sig worthy. You have been repped.

 

[Groovy]

GREAT. WELL SAID!

However most people are lazy fools. Hard work & sacrifice are foreign concepts which is why we will continue to see the same lames *ss threads about the same chump sh*t.

Yeah, I belieave that the real reason for that is that these people don't internalize the advice they get. They read that you have to have a good life and then you'll attract the girls, but they do it for the girls, not them. I don't think people realize that once you have yourself together, you won't even care much about girls. Not in the way most of us do now. (I think most people here are after ego validation). I belieave that most people here are after the "Dj tacitcs", and they changed their outer game, so they get more women, obviously, but not much has changed in their inner game. (AT least that's what it appears to me..).

For example, people know that being busy is good for raising interrest, but then they try to fake that they are busy, they try to not give girls much attention, to girls think they don't care, so they think that they are cool.. .But deep down inside, they can even be analying the situation to death,. It's just a trick, it's no real, and it sucks for the person who's doing it, even if they do get the girlto be more interrested. Plus, women KNOW it, haha. If you're fake, they know... It's basiclly the same thing- A guy looking for approval by being nice (AFC) and a guy using dj tactics (****y and funny) to get approva from a girl- That's not going to get the womens respect...

Sorry for the typing errors people!

 

[Kirro]

GREAT. WELL SAID!

Yeah, I belieave that the real reason for that is that these people don't internalize the advice they get. They read that you have to have a good life and then you'll attract the girls, but they do it for the girls, not them. I don't think people realize that once you have yourself together, you won't even care much about girls. Not in the way most of us do now. (I think most people here are after ego validation). I belieave that most people here are after the "Dj tacitcs", and they changed their outer game, so they get more women, obviously, but not much has changed in their inner game. (AT least that's what it appears to me..).

For example, people know that being busy is good for raising interrest, but then they try to fake that they are busy, they try to not give girls much attention, to girls think they don't care, so they think that they are cool.. .But deep down inside, they can even be analying the situation to death,. It's just a trick, it's no real, and it sucks for the person who's doing it, even if they do get the girlto be more interrested. Plus, women KNOW it, haha. If you're fake, they know... It's basiclly the same thing- A guy looking for approval by being nice (AFC) and a guy using dj tactics (****y and funny) to get approva from a girl- That's not going to get the womens respect...

Sorry for the typing errors people!

Someone who gets it! You get rep.

This is why I don't even bother to approach chicks right now. I'm a work in progress if I try to run game it'll be fake & eventually I'll get found out & then what?

 

[Nygard]

For example, people know that being busy is good for raising interrest, but then they try to fake that they are busy, they try to not give girls much attention...

The idea has a fatal flaw, tho. You can forget about women for a while to do tasks and activities you enjoy doing. But! But what are you going to do? If you enjoy doing things where you got a lot of social exposure, you're bound to get better with people ( Be it women, men , it doesn't matter). How about activities that you enjoy and love doing, but they don't you any social exposure AT WORST? If I tell you I enjoy reading, programming, playing solos in my guitar, going to a personal gym and roller-skating alone, how is all of that going to give me any meaningful social interactions? It just doesn't work, it doesn't add up. I've been doing those activities for a while because I really love doing them, but I also know there's no chance I'm gonna get any woman's attention over it. Just think about it:

"I program stuff"
"uh...nice!!(Oh ****, yet another nerd, let's dispatch this one asap-look)"

I've yet to find any woman that finds such things interesting.Let me tell you something, that iPod of yours, you better hang onto it, because sexual selection is going to weed out every one of us in this area.It's already happening, we're down 70% in software engineering students compared to 8 years ago.

 

[f283000]

Brother you should know that it is only natural for your buddies to do this. I know it's annoying but it's how guys operate.

If you are hanging out with your buddies and they all got girlfriends, and the topic of women comes up and you're the only one without a girlfriend WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GONNA HAPPEN? They are going to tease you a bit, bust your balls a bit, throw some jokes your way, some will give you advice making you feel like a kid etc.

The same would happen in countless other situations (they all live on their own and you still live with your momma), they all got a car and you still riding the bus etc.

Just remember that in any conversation when you are the odd man out you are bound to be picked for jokes, advice etc.