The married DJ vs. the married AFC

[al77]

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Originally posted by A-Unit
Emotional Manipulation is a tactic of all women, knowingly or not-knowingly.
They're based on a world of feeling and sense. They just don't see it the same way. As such, power of emotion can over-ride logic in most cases.

"You didn't call back after *I* hung up on you. You don't care."
The programs are there. I don't think any guy will ever find a girl who operates as they feel they should, or would be easy.

I just want to "amplify" your message. It is correct that all women are great emotional manipulator.
But lets look deeper into the problem. Some are more of manipulators, some are less.
According to statistics and from common sense it is easy to find a woman who is an average manipulator. But to find women who are less inclined to manipulate is harder, simply because there are fewer of them.
Consclusion? Don't chose the first average manipulative chicks just cuz of her"cute lips and great smile". Down there she has practically the same pvssy as all her "sisters".

There is other problem involved: relatively pretty chicks who attract everyone tend to get more manipulative cuz of the situation they are in: They can do anything they want, dump a guy and get another one tomorrow and feel great.
Men simply do not get it, or they pretend "she is special, not like others". Which is a self-imposed lie.
There was a thread wheere most guys, Djs here started to "beat" the auther of the thread just because he was bold to suggest not to pursue hot chicks since they are eventually waste of time due to their flakiness and spoilness.
He was told that it is not consistent with DJ mentality. No, it is not. But his idea made a lot of sense.

From the other side the problem is chick who are fat and not pretty tend to be less manipulative, simply cuz they cannot afford it: a guy will run away from a fat, ugly AND manipulative girl in a second. So these women are good in terms of low manipulation level but they are not attractive: not many want to approach them.
But dont you guys think it is not all about how pretty she is, not about what all his friends say how hot she is?
I guess it is about how she makes you feel, what character she has: she might very average looking gal who makes you feel great due to good chemistry and decent character.
Again, down there all they are the same...

 

[AgonyUncle]

Not married at all, and have no intentions of getting married anytime soon. Meeting to many people, and enjoying my life to much to commit to someone seriously at the moment.

Im at that age where a large percentage of my firends are getting hitched now. Seems to be the 25-30 boom that everyone falls into.

Marriage has almost just become a step of life for most people. You finish school, you find a solid job, you get married, you have kids. People have lost focus on why we do things, and seem to just want to fit into a mould that has been set by society.

The funny thing is that the majority of blokes I know who have intentions of getting married before they reach thirty were:

1) Major AFC's their entire lives. Have never had any sexual variety

2) Lack confidence in life as a whole. People tend to walk all over them

3) Come from homes were their mothers have been domineering, or are major femminists

4) Have gone from one LTR to another, and nearly everytime have been the ones who got dumped

5) Cling to women like they are the only thing of value in their lives.

Its the same pattern with nearly all of them. When you look at the current state of their relationships, it leaves a lot to be desired. One has given up drinking not because he feels its the right decsion for himself, but because his fiance' was from an abusive relationship where the former BF used to drink heavily. He cant even go out and have a few beers with his mates and shoot some pool. She has flat out told him he is NOT ALLOWED to drink anymore.

Another one has been kicked out of his place twice, and his fiance' actually has a diary where they "plan" their lives together! Last time he was told to "get the hell out her life" because his cell phone battery run out and he was running late after meeting a few of us for a drink.

One of my mates I had not seen for two years. His future wife to be openly flirted with his friends in front of him, got rip roaring drunk everytime we went out while they were back in town, and would tell everyone what a softie her future husband was. Said outloud that sometimes she thinks he is gay!

AFC before marriage, AFC after. If you dont take control of your life, in love, work, health and integrity, you wont ever be happy.

 

[dietzcoi]

Agony, you are so right but the AFCs here and elsewhere will never beleive it.

People just "can't handle the truth" I guess. Maybe it is better that there are so many AFCs.

After all there can only be so many dominant males in the deer heard, maybe it is the same with people. The rest of the males have to play the chump role.

It is sad to see but maybe nature had intended for dominant human males to have a harem and the "beta males" to have no women and become soldiers, priests, monks, traveling entertainers, bachelor farmers, and the like. But our religion/society dictated one man/one woman so the AFC males who never should have gotten involved with women and breeding are thrown into a situation they are not suited for.

Interesting to think about even if you don't or won't consider it.

Dietzcoi

 

[chopper1911]

EXCELLENT COMMENTS. I am married now too and feel that in order to maintain my happy home I still have to maintain a dj outlook even when dealing with my wife. If not they will take the ball and run with it and run right over an unsuspecting afc especially if it is a female with more than a few male tendencies.
any other married guys notice the same thing?