THE MARGINALIZATION OF MODERN MEN

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Furthermore....women keep score EVERY DAY. It never ends, you cannot cruise. You MUST build your love account daily. For example, my wife comes home from her job managing several medical facilities. That means she is going to want to talk about her day. YAAAAY (sarcasm).

You must listen to her. I hate it, but it is only for 5 minutes. Wife likes to talk about firing people. I HATE that ****. But you know what? I pretend like I give a ****. Just as important, I don't go into problem solving mode. Women HATE that. She already knows what she is going top do. When women communicate they are working through the process in their own minds. Just let them do it. It is 5 minutes, and you get one point for passing the test, the same amount you get for an expensive gift.
This is the intimacy building that I am discussing ad nauseum in the other thread about wifey owing hubby sex. So many men REALLY do not understand this concept. I don't mind if they can't hear that from me, a woman. I hope they can hear it from you. I don't care how they get the information, but they need it.

Why do women stay with certain men, and not others? Why do couples divorce? These studies tend to be empirical (hard science driven by data) and utilize rational choice modeling taken from economics.

Fascinatingly, this material DID explain why women leave or stay. Women are making very rational decisions in regards to the choices our society offers them.
I have added the bold to your statement because I find this to be true in my own life and true with many women who I know personally. Here on SS there are many men who think women are children/incapable or reason/operating only on an emotional level etc. The degree to which men underestimate women's ability to rationally process information is remarkable. It places men at a tremendous disadvantage that they are not aware of.

I see men blame women for the severe marital problems our society has. They should not. Women are not the problem. The problem is the decisions our society presents them with and the type men our society is producing.
As a woman raising a high school age son your message is encouraging. My ex and I work closely together with the child rearing and my son attends an all boy's academy where he is exposed to many good examples of what masculinity is and what leadership is. Both of us believe this is very important for his development into a young man. My ex works there and has an active influence in my son's life but also in the lives of other young men, which has the added advantage of giving my son the opportunity to see his father in a leadership role not only from his perspective, but also to see his father respected by others. This is a substantial change from our previous history together and I think it is quite positive in many ways.
 

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This is all bs put out by misandrists and men who are ****ting their pants about men not being in complete control of everything. What's really going on is that women want to compete with men. Now they are unhappy that it's harder to find a man in a financial situation that allows him to lead and be a provider. Also, men are becoming less interested in women because more and more women are becoming branch swinging fat pigs that want to birth illigitimate children. And all this talk about college degrees and men living with parents while unemployed and playing video games is a complete distortion and exaggeration. Both men and women do this. And it's not as many as it's made out to be. The structural changes in the economy have made it difficult for both young men and women to find stable emoyment that pays well. And finally, citing college degree statistics is getting really old. We all know that students are getting deep into student loan debts and seeing little return on investment. I am college educated, and i have a few friends who do better than i do in the trades or something that just doesn't require college.
You sem to grasp the fundamental problems well.

However, are you really saying that the gender gap in college is dated information?

No, it is not. there is a large disparity now, and in another 10 years there will be 2 female college graduates for every 1 male.

You claim that failure to launch males is a fictional exaggeration?

I have sources for this claim. What is your opinion based upon? Can you link me to your source?

Here is one source for that claim: http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0743558410371126
 

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One of the cable channels had an Alien marathon the other day.

I noticed the character, Lt. Ripley, had all the traits we read about in this thread about modern women. All the men around her are stupid, to her. She begins yelling at them, mocking them, ordering them around. They finally become subject to her, and follow her plans, her orders.

In the third installment, Ripley has sex with the doctor, then barely notices when he is killed.
 

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One of the cable channels had an Alien marathon the other day.

I noticed the character, Lt. Ripley, had all the traits we read about in this thread about modern women. All the men around her are stupid, to her. She begins yelling at them, mocking them, ordering them around. They finally become subject to her, and follow her plans, her orders.

In the third installment, Ripley has sex with the doctor, then barely notices when he is killed.
Great set (at least the first two) of movies, but yes, Ripley represents the warrior/mother role perfectly. This is obviously a role representing female empowerment and the belief that the best man for the job is a woman.

When it comes to fighting a big/nasty/ alien killing machine, men need not apply.
 

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Here is some more from chapter 1:

The Toolbox: A user manual for men

There are thousands of books written by academics, psychologists, sociologists and other self help Guru’s. Unfortunately, the academic world has failed men utterly when it comes to a plan for living. I know, because I come from that world.

Unfortunately, BA’s, MA’s and a PhD did not solve my problems. I was still lost, alone, divorced, alienated, and living in a rat infested apartment in the Ghetto. Actually, the PhD got me a better apartment, but that was the extent of the benefits.

Looking back, I now realize that my seemingly terrible situation was a blessing in disguise. It gave me the gift of desperation that I needed to motivate personal growth and change. From this growth and change I developed a system for living, success, and happiness.

As mentioned above, my system is rooted in academic studies of social welfare policy, cohabitation research, rational actor modeling, economics, evolutionary biology, and evolutionary psychology. This materiel will give you a deep understanding of the human condition and human behavior.

The academic and scientific literature informs us about the problem. Unfortunately, it fails to provide us with a solution.

The solution begins if we start somewhere different from traditional gender studies and mainstream psychology.

These disciplines have done absolutely nothing to strengthen families and ensure that our natural rights are protected. In fact, they have done more harm than good, especially when it comes to children. They are not even asking the right questions.

We must look elsewhere for solutions. The place to start is in academic disciplines that are less traditional. Evolutionary biology and psychology, rational actor modeling, Eastern and Western Philosophy. Material from 12 step programs and the seduction community.

These disciplines offer us real world tangible benefits. Everyone, not just alcoholics and guys living in their parents basement can benefit. I once scoffed at the ability of this material to improve the conditions that modern men live in, but I was wrong. Scientific research has proven that these disciplines are very effective (, Nicholson 2013 Fiorentine, R. & Hillhouse, M.P. 2009, Toft, 2009, Dinker, Liotta 2013 ).

There are parallels between seduction tactics and evolutionary biology and evolutionary psychology. (Oesch and Miklousic, 2012). A popular tool of the seduction community is the “Yes Ladder.” According to Freedman and Fraser, the Ladder is a scientifically proven technique taken from scholarly business literature.
 

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Today’s laws and culture grew from attempts to make the world a more fair and less hostile place for women

Modern laws and morals are designed to force men to take responsibility for their actions. These policies were designed to protect woman and children from the vagrancy’s of bad men. Unfortunately, our laws and morality have had drastic unintended consequences.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with putting societal pressure upon men to fulfill their responsibilities by staying with their families. Women, and especially children must be protected. Unfortunately, these well meaning policies have had disastrous effects. They hurt men, but in the long run they hurt women, children and families. Families are more broken than ever. Children suffer the most.

The problem with the extant mainstream academic literature is that it provides absolutely no good suggestions as to how we can improve this state of affairs. Men are marginalized, vilified and the state is expected to take their place. The role of strong good men to raise strong good men has been outsourced.

Social Welfare Policy Has Failed Us

We need a completely different approach. Punitive laws and policies have failed us. Society needs better men, not marginalized men. Men are desperately in need of a program for successful living.

Do not blame women. Women are simply behaving in a manner consistent with tens of thousands of years of evolution. If we look closely at evolutionary biology, rational actor modeling, and evolutionary psychology we will see that women are simply making the best choices they can in a system that does not work.

We must always treat women with respect, tolerance, and love.

We must also understand that women communicate and keep score differently than men.

We must create better men. We must raise men to be successful in today’s world. Men must have tools to become better fathers, husbands, and citizens.

Men Need a System for Living.

What can Men do? You must have a Toolbox

So far we have spent a great deal of time discussing relationships with women. There is a good reason for that. Relationships are the most important things in your life. It is much better to get fired than divorced. In the last 20 years I made a million dollars and lost a million dollars.

Money did not fix me.

The difference is that this time I am married to a wonderful women who is also very successful in her career. She is the one now making six figures. She stays with me because she loves me. She loves me because I rarely make mistakes. She is a flexible and loving giver. She is the type of woman my system is designed to find.

Relationship advice, most of which is bad or worse, always focuses on what happens AFTER you are in a relationship. Rarely do you find advice about picking the right woman to begin with. Selection is absolutely critical. There are almost always red flags, but most men do not recognize them or think that somehow marriage and a baby will fix them. They will not.

Successful selection can only happen AFTER you get your life in order.

Good thinking does not automatically translate into good behavior. I have found the opposite to be true: Good thinking comes from good behavior. As you practice good behavior your thinking will be transformed. Like I said, you have to get your reps in.

If you discipline yourself, work the program, make steady progress eventually you will intuitively know what do do in difficult situations.

Your mind, your ego, your resentments, your desires and attachments will no longer sabotage your life and relationships. Solid and beneficial relationships with women and others are THE PRODUCT of the Toolbox.

The Toolbox is about right living.

I rarely make mistakes because I still adhere strictly to the tenets of the Toolbox. After 10 years of marriage it gets easier, but I still discipline my behavior. The amount of work required to keep a woman in love is less than getting her to love you in the first place, but you still must stick to the principles.

Often, what you don’t say is more important than what you do say.

Emotional fitness is like physical fitness. You have to get to the gym and get your reps in. Getting there takes work, but once you are there you only have to do maintenance.

There are other very important relationships in our life’s. Career success cannot happen unless you build strong relationships. I used to let anger and resentments destroy my relationship with other people. Today I have very practical tools that manage my emotions, that clear the negative thinking so that I can work with clarity and focus.

If I can do it you can do it.

You must develop skills to make yourself a better man, one that can survive and prosper in modernity. That is the core of my program. My system is a synthesis of other proven programs for living combined in a unique and highly successful methodology.

The toolbox for living focuses upon five key areas. They are 1: Relationship and seduction skills. 2: Physical fitness. 3: Spiritual fitness. 4: Emotional strength, and 5: Behavior control.
 

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You sem to grasp the fundamental problems well.

However, are you really saying that the gender gap in college is dated information?

No, it is not. there is a large disparity now, and in another 10 years there will be 2 female college graduates for every 1 male.

You claim that failure to launch males is a fictional exaggeration?

I have sources for this claim. What is your opinion based upon? Can you link me to your source?

Here is one source for that claim: http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0743558410371126
You are missing my point entirely. Success in life is not dependent on having a college degree. And you also assume that current trends will continue. You cannot say women in college WILL outnumber men by 2:1. And even if they do, what does it matter when the majority of debt saddled college graduates end up in occupations for which a college education is not necesarry? I've dated many women who are on the verge of bankruptcy and have no impressive career or income. All they can say is "I have a masters". And I have dated women with no college education who have their own businesses because they have a skill and ambition. The same goes for men.
 
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You are missing my point entirely. Success in life is not dependent on having a college degree. And you also assume that current trends will continue. You cannot say women in college WILL outnumber men by 2:1
Yes I can. Please look at the facts before you post. Do you have a source for your claims?

Success in life IS dependent upon a college degree and the earning gap is and will be increasing. College graduates make far more than non graduates. College graduates, on average, earned 56 to 82%% more than high school grads. More than 60% of graduates are women and that number will increase.

In 2015, according to data compiled by the Economic Policy Institute.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/mone...lege-grads-and-everyone-else-record/96493348/

Other sources:

https://www.usnews.com/news/article...en-young-college-and-high-school-grads-widens

https://www.theguardian.com/educati...-and-non-graduate-wages-shows-signs-of-waning

http://money.cnn.com/infographic/economy/college-degree-earnings/

https://www.bls.gov/emp/ep_chart_001.htm

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox...raduate_vs_high_school_graduate_salaries.html

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/money_co/2011/08/college-gradutates-pay.html

I could go on, but you get the idea.

As far as graduation rates related to gender, Women are graduating at nearly twice the rate as men and this number will increase: Here are the facts.

http://fortune.com/2013/03/27/boys-vs-girls-whats-behind-the-college-grad-gender-gap/

http://www.prb.org/Publications/Articles/2011/gender-gap-in-education.aspx

https://collegepuzzle.stanford.edu/?tag=women-exceed-men-in-college-graduation

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/03/06/womens-college-enrollment-gains-leave-men-behind/

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/09/education/09college.html

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ccap/2015/05/04/the-disappearing-college-male/
 

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Yes I can. Please look at the facts before you post. Do you have a source for your claims?

Success in life IS dependent upon a college degree and the earning gap is and will be increasing. College graduates make far more than non graduates. College graduates, on average, earned 56 to 82%% more than high school grads. More than 60% of graduates are women and that number will increase.

In 2015, according to data compiled by the Economic Policy Institute.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/mone...lege-grads-and-everyone-else-record/96493348/

Other sources:

https://www.usnews.com/news/article...en-young-college-and-high-school-grads-widens

https://www.theguardian.com/educati...-and-non-graduate-wages-shows-signs-of-waning

http://money.cnn.com/infographic/economy/college-degree-earnings/

https://www.bls.gov/emp/ep_chart_001.htm

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox...raduate_vs_high_school_graduate_salaries.html

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/money_co/2011/08/college-gradutates-pay.html

I could go on, but you get the idea.

As far as graduation rates related to gender, Women are graduating at nearly twice the rate as men and this number will increase: Here are the facts.

http://fortune.com/2013/03/27/boys-vs-girls-whats-behind-the-college-grad-gender-gap/

http://www.prb.org/Publications/Articles/2011/gender-gap-in-education.aspx

https://collegepuzzle.stanford.edu/?tag=women-exceed-men-in-college-graduation

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/03/06/womens-college-enrollment-gains-leave-men-behind/

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/09/education/09college.html

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ccap/2015/05/04/the-disappearing-college-male/
Fine Doctor. Men are doomed. Women will take over because men are losers who chose to not go to college. And therefore women will be having sex with strapons. And men will only be born because the coming female state mandates that 1% of births must be men for the sole purpose of slavery and sperm production.
 

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Fine Doctor. Men are doomed. Women will take over because men are losers who chose to not go to college. And therefore women will be having sex with strapons. And men will only be born because the coming female state mandates that 1% of births must be men for the sole purpose of slavery and sperm production.
I am not sure what your point is. I am merely presenting the data, which is overwhelming. If you have an issue, please bring up some empirical evidence and I would love to look at it.

I am advocating that men become aware, organize, and fight back. What are you advocating? You seem to be advocating that men simply give up. That is the opposite of what I am advocating.

A college degree greatly increases your earning potential. 2/3rds of college graduates will be women. 50% of marriages will end in divorce. 70% of the time that divorce will be filled by the woman. The Earth is round. Dinosaurs were killed in an extinction event 65 million years ago. Water is wet.

These are facts, not my opinion. I am sorry if these facts disturb you, but would you prefer that I lie?

It is critical that men are aware of these facts, and prepared to enter the world where the cards are stacked against them. My book is an attempt to prepare and empowere men in a War that is against them.

Please comment upon your take on these facts. Do you have an recommendations? I would love to hear them. I am posting my work in an attempt to bring balance back to the world.

Men must be aware, and have a strategy if they are to survive the War Against Men. Do you have anything substantive to contribute? I would love to hear it. Putting your head in the sand only makes the problem worse
 

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A college degree greatly increases your earning potential.
The Great College Hoax

2/3rds of college graduates will be women.
How do you combine the two above "facts" to equal the "fact" that women allegedly make 70% of men (hint, that 70% has been debunked)

(English, Foreign language, psychology, etc.)

See chart below, men with BS degrees far out earn women with BS degrees.






50% of marriages will end in divorce.
The Divorce Surge is Over, but the Myth Lives On

50% Divorce Fiction

50% Divorce hasn't been true for a long time

The Myth of the High Rate of Divorce

The Statistics
A false conclusion in the 1970s that half of all first marriages ended in divorce was based on the simple but completely wrong analysis of the marriage and divorce rates per 1,000 people in the United States. A similar abuse of statistical analysis led to the conclusion that 60 percent of all second marriages ended in divorce.

These errors have had a profound impact on attitudes about marriage in our society and it is a terrible injustice that there wasn’t more of an effort to get accurate data (essentially only obtainable by following a significant number of couples over time and measuring the outcomes) or that newer, more accurate and optimistic data isn’t being heavily reported in the media.

It is now clear that the divorce rate in first marriages probably peaked at about 40 percent for first marriages around 1980 and has been declining since to about 30 percent in the early 2000s. This is a dramatic difference. Rather than viewing marriage as a 50-50 shot in the dark it can be viewed as having a 70 percent likelihood of succeeding. But even to use that kind of generalization, i.e., one simple statistic for all marriages, grossly distorts what is actually going on.



 

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They are unwilling to read anything longer than a few sentences, unwilling to invest the necessary intellectual energy into understanding complex social, political, and legal structures.
Unfortunately this guy is operating from a faulty premise.

He believes he has "value" to offer and "the keys to everyone's relationship problems". So he creates an account, introduces himself, claims whatever credentials and then proceeds to write shedloads of pages about whatever theories he garnered from other sources.......

...he doesn't get the audiences that be believes he deserves and concludes that's the very reason that these "losers" end up "living in their parents basements" because they won't take the time to read his masterpiece. Quite the charmer eh. What an ego.

Could it be that he's a new member and nobody knows him from Adam so nobody gives a damn about his shedloads of pages.

Tayuu, I am not sure if you fit into this second category, but if you did I would like to hear what you have to say.
@taiyuu_otoko ......not going to qualify yourself then?
 

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I think you're being a little harsh. All he's doing is sharing his perspective - that's the whole point of a forum. He's not asked anyone for money, so what's the harm? His opinion is no more or less valid than anyone else's here.

Everyone should be able to say what they want, and it's up to the individual to take what they want from it.
 

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The Great College Hoax



How do you combine the two above "facts" to equal the "fact" that women allegedly make 70% of men (hint, that 70% has been debunked)

(English, Foreign language, psychology, etc.)

See chart below, men with BS degrees far out earn women with BS degrees.








The Divorce Surge is Over, but the Myth Lives On

50% Divorce Fiction

50% Divorce hasn't been true for a long time

The Myth of the High Rate of Divorce

The Statistics
A false conclusion in the 1970s that half of all first marriages ended in divorce was based on the simple but completely wrong analysis of the marriage and divorce rates per 1,000 people in the United States. A similar abuse of statistical analysis led to the conclusion that 60 percent of all second marriages ended in divorce.

These errors have had a profound impact on attitudes about marriage in our society and it is a terrible injustice that there wasn’t more of an effort to get accurate data (essentially only obtainable by following a significant number of couples over time and measuring the outcomes) or that newer, more accurate and optimistic data isn’t being heavily reported in the media.

It is now clear that the divorce rate in first marriages probably peaked at about 40 percent for first marriages around 1980 and has been declining since to about 30 percent in the early 2000s. This is a dramatic difference. Rather than viewing marriage as a 50-50 shot in the dark it can be viewed as having a 70 percent likelihood of succeeding. But even to use that kind of generalization, i.e., one simple statistic for all marriages, grossly distorts what is actually going on.
I am glad you are moving towards a substantive debate, but you need to first interpret the data you present. Please explain how it refutes the arguments I made? You have to unpack the meaning of the charts you present. Remember, also, it is from one source.

Here is what you do say, and it makes no sense:

Taiyuu: "How do you combine the two above "facts" to equal the "fact" that women allegedly make 70% of men (hint, that 70% has been debunked). " That sentence makes no sense, is unclear and has syntax issues. What are you trying to say?

I am not attacking you personally, but you need to proofread your writing. people often say I write well, but the truth is my prose is mediocre. What makes it good is the fact that I do multiple revisions. I try and put myself in the shoes of my readers.

Taiyuu: "(English, Foreign language, psychology, etc.)" Are these your sources? These are not sources they are broad categories.

Sources must be specific and verifiable. For example, you list this source:

https://www.forbes.com/forbes/2009/0202/060.html

That source is an op ed piece. That means it is someone's opinion, not fact. It is not science, the author is not a qualified source. It is intellectual fluff.

She posits: "A correlation between B.A.s and incomes is not proof of cause and effect."

The author challenges the income disparity because smart people tend to make more than dumb people, and going to college means you are already smart.

Her argument is interesting, but incomplete. She throws out bull**** data and opinions with no sources. There are no sources because she is wrong.

There are hundreds of sources...real scientists with real PhD's who claim that there IS a correlation between BA's and income disparity.

Finally, her argument is not really about earning. It is about student loan debt. I agree with her, the debt has gotten out of control.
 
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Here is another of your sources. Again, it is an op ed piece written by a journalists. It is not science.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/02/upshot/the-divorce-surge-is-over-but-the-myth-lives-on.html?_r=1

The author claims that the divorce problem is overrated, because current divorce rates are less than they were in the 1970's and 1980's.

What she fails to realize is that there were simply more people in that age cohort. The largest age cohort in our society is far and away the baby boomers. These are people born between 1945 and 1964. Since then there have been less and less people born. There were way, way more young married couples in the 870's and 80's, and an increase in total divorce rates reflected the fat that there were simply more couples.

These are the types of arguments you get from people who's job is to write appealing articles for publications. They are not real studies done by people who are trained to do scientific studies.

They are not properly construicted, they are not reliable, and they are not valid. You can't run an ANOVA (Analysis of Variance) on them, you can't determine a margin of error.

These basices along with understanding variations in age cohorts is stats 101.

Personally, I use op ed newspaper articles once in a while, but they are not quality sources. If you want to see how a study regarding marriage and cohabitation should be done, Look at Murray or Popeno.
 

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I think you're being a little harsh. All he's doing is sharing his perspective - that's the whole point of a forum. He's not asked anyone for money, so what's the harm? His opinion is no more or less valid than anyone else's here.

Everyone should be able to say what they want, and it's up to the individual to take what they want from it.
Harsh by simply pointing out that he's working from a faulty premise if he concludes that the men that are not reading what
he writes have only themselves to blame that they are living in their parents' basement?

I'm not sure how you find that harsh.

If everyone should be able to say what they want according to you......does that courtesy not extend to me writing that I believe he's operating
from a faulty logic by covertly shaming those that don't read his masterpiece?

Isn't that the point to a forum....

Or does it only extend to those you agree with........
 

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Sources must be specific and verifiable. For example, you list this source:
Jiminy Christmas dude, this is an internet forum about guys trying to get laid. You have your opinion I have my opinion.

If you're writing a peer reviewable article that's one thing. But you're intending to write a book to "save the world' on a forum about how to more effectively putt the pee pee in the vajayjay, you might want to tone down the academic "holier than thou" attitude a bit.

(hint: Telling people they have poor syntax won't win you any fans). (Most people here type with their dycks in one hand anyhow.)

It's obvious you won't budge from your opinions, so I'll stop trying to refute them.

But here's some free advice:

Before you come storming in here explaining what we NEED, you might want to hang out a bit and find out what people actually WANT before trying to solve everybody's problems.

It's great that you've got a PhD and a happy family, but don't assume that everybody wants to be like you.
 

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2 ways in which the modern man is marginalized.

One is through feminism. Toxic bullsh*t about equality, and general gaslighting.

The second, less discussed, is this beta male honour system that heaps just as much bullsh*t on men, and is just as toxic. And I see you as being part of that problem.

Those are the two major things that have washed me up on this website in retrospect. The two main innergame issues that I have dealt with in general.

I don't care for your credentials, or Linkedin, or any crap. I care for your ideas.

You need to accept that it was actually a feminist system that allowed me to experience who I truly am. And, once bypassing the initial gaslighting and confusion, I'm fairly content under it.

What say you on that? That your frame is actually detrimental to some men's growth?
I would say that your position is extremely interesting. It to am the product of "a feminist system". Would you be so kind as to extrapolate your argument?

You are exactly the type of person I am trying to understand.

There are two types of rational male reactions to the feminist dominated system. We have the Failure to Launchers. Then, we have people like you. You have taken the Red pill and are now maximizing the opportunities (like sex with many, many partners) of our dysfunctional system.

May I ask you some questions?
 

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Jiminy Christmas dude, this is an internet forum about guys trying to get laid. You have your opinion I have my opinion.

If you're writing a peer reviewable article that's one thing. But you're intending to write a book to "save the world' on a forum about how to more effectively putt the pee pee in the vajayjay, you might want to tone down the academic "holier than thou" attitude a bit.

(hint: Telling people they have poor syntax won't win you any fans). (Most people here type with their dycks in one hand anyhow.)

It's obvious you won't budge from your opinions, so I'll stop trying to refute them.

But here's some free advice:

Before you come storming in here explaining what we NEED, you might want to hang out a bit and find out what people actually WANT before trying to solve everybody's problems.

It's great that you've got a PhD and a happy family, but don't assume that everybody wants to be like you.

I came here to vet my work. Trust me, I am not solving anyone's problems.

I don't mean to insult your writing, I just can't make sense of it. You are typing away and not proofreading. You throw up articles that you have not read. I went back and read them and they in no way support your argument.

This is not some pedantic point. We cannot have a discussion if we are not speaking the same language.
 
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