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The Duke

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This advice reeks of outdated pickup artist tactics, treating women as conquests and reducing human interactions to manipulative games. Such approaches perpetuate misogynistic ideologies, as evidenced by figures like Julien Blanc, whose seminars promoting coercive behaviors led to international bans. Embracing mistakes is one thing, but intentionally undermining women’s autonomy through strategies like negging crosses into unethical territory. Real progress in relationships comes from mutual respect and genuine connection, not from treating women as targets for self-improvement. It’s time to discard these harmful practices and approach dating with empathy and integrity.
You have missed the message by a million miles. It has absolutely ZERO to do about PUA tactics. Never been one to follow pua gurus.
 

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Dating is relatively easy. Maintaining a relationship is much more difficult and requires different skills.

The biggest lesson for me is realising that no matter how good looking the girl or how great the sex is, hedonic adaptation will kick in (for me after about a year) and the novelty of having a girlfriend wears off.
 

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This advice reeks of outdated pickup artist tactics, treating women as conquests and reducing human interactions to manipulative games. Such approaches perpetuate misogynistic ideologies, as evidenced by figures like Julien Blanc, whose seminars promoting coercive behaviors led to international bans. Embracing mistakes is one thing, but intentionally undermining women’s autonomy through strategies like negging crosses into unethical territory. Real progress in relationships comes from mutual respect and genuine connection, not from treating women as targets for self-improvement. It’s time to discard these harmful practices and approach dating with empathy and integrity.
Guys like you who don't take other people's perspective are the one's who never make it, you made you mind that what you said is the correct thing, when obviously you haven't fvcked a puzzy in a long time.

You come here to lecture us how bad we are, for wanting to play the game and fvck women, while you are the hero and savior of women, but got nothing to show for it. You should be banned from this forum. @Dr.Suave @BackInTheGame78 this is an open forum, but guys like these ones who never contribute anything and always complain without practicing other perspectives keep the guys who want to get better silent, imo we don't need people like that who regurgitate what actually doesn't work or get you nowhere. Duke gave a great perspective and this guy doesn't even have the open mind to think about it.
 

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When men take the knowledge and learn how to work it in their benefit with how to tweak it to fit their personality, they will start seeing the results.
It's not that easy.. Sometimes you can do well what you've learned. But for some reason it won't work for you.
So you reach a conclusion that maybe another guy will have differently
 

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Dating is relatively easy. Maintaining a relationship is much more difficult and requires different skills.

The biggest lesson for me is realising that no matter how good looking the girl or how great the sex is, hedonic adaptation will kick in (for me after about a year) and the novelty of having a girlfriend wears off.
I agree with you and I have been in this situation several times in the past. For me, it didnt take very long to start re-exploring my options with other women in the orbit.

I think I have changed in terms of what I am looking for in a partner, not just a girlfriend. While physical attraction is still utterly important, other characteristics have become more valuable in terms of what I look for in a woman that I could see a solid future with. Character is at the top of the list, equally (if not slightly edging out) physical attraction.

With numerous options, it makes it easy to always be looking for the next best thing. Once you go down that road so many times, you realize what type of woman you are compatible with and no so compatible with. Throw in the physical attraction and the dating pool for long term potential woman shrinks quickly.

I cant date a chick who doesnt have the communication skills to have an adult conversation when it needs to happen. I also cant date someone who is passive aggressive, lazy or stupid. Intelligence is important as is a chick who is also "on her purpose".

The older we get I feel as though when we do find someone who checks most of the boxes, the more rare it is and she becomes more valuable. More value means higher investment on our part as men.

My current gf has her doctorate, extremely hard working, smart, very fit, attractive and very affectionate and submissive. That checks a lot of the boxes that keep my eyes from wondering off lol.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Guys like you who don't take other people's perspective are the one's who never make it, you made you mind that what you said is the correct thing, when obviously you haven't fvcked a puzzy in a long time.

You come here to lecture us how bad we are, for wanting to play the game and fvck women, while you are the hero and savior of women, but got nothing to show for it. You should be banned from this forum. @Dr.Suave @BackInTheGame78 this is an open forum, but guys like these ones who never contribute anything and always complain without practicing other perspectives keep the guys who want to get better silent, imo we don't need people like that who regurgitate what actually doesn't work or get you nowhere. Duke gave a great perspective and this guy doesn't even have the open mind to think about it.
You mistake “playing the game” for real growth. If manipulation and objectification are your standards, you’re stuck in insecurity, not evolution. Open your mind, or you’ll stay lost in a cycle of shallow victories and empty self-justifications.
 

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This advice reeks of outdated pickup artist tactics, treating women as conquests and reducing human interactions to manipulative games. Such approaches perpetuate misogynistic ideologies, as evidenced by figures like Julien Blanc, whose seminars promoting coercive behaviors led to international bans. Embracing mistakes is one thing, but intentionally undermining women’s autonomy through strategies like negging crosses into unethical territory. Real progress in relationships comes from mutual respect and genuine connection, not from treating women as targets for self-improvement. It’s time to discard these harmful practices and approach dating with empathy and integrity.
How in the world did you come to this conclusion based upon Duke's OP? There was nothing "misogynistic" about his post or the advice in it. In fact, I would say that advice is nothing along the lines of PUA tactics when he is touting experience in approaches, not some quick-trick PUA tactic.

Frankly, you sound like you are White Knighting -- and SS is a place where you will go next to zero sympathy doing that (and rightfully so IMO).
 

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My current gf has her doctorate, extremely hard working, smart, very fit, attractive and very affectionate and submissive. That checks a lot of the boxes that keep my eyes from wondering off lol.
Awesome post @Glassguy and appreciate your posting it!

Would you mind sharing her age and if she's had prior relationships?

Reason I ask is because I just read a post advising not to bother with women 25+ who have had prior relationships (except to have sex with them) as they are past their prime, have too much baggage and have nothing of value to offer. It received one "thumbs up".

Obviously not all (or even most) men share that opinion but nevertheless it's tough to read sometimes (I'm a female in my 30s and in a relationship).

I find your posts extremely valuable so just curious what your thoughts are about that.
 
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Awesome post @Glassguy. Would you mind sharing her age and if she's had prior relationships?
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Reason I ask is because I just read a post advising not to bother with women 25+ who have had prior relationships (except to have sex with them) as they are past their prime, have too much baggage and have nothing of value to offer. It received one "thumbs up".

Obviously not all (or even most) men share that opinion but nevertheless it's tough to read sometimes (I'm a female in my 30s and in a relationship).

I find your posts extremely valuable so just curious what your thoughts are about that.
He did say "Generally speaking" which Is why I liked his post. Exceptions make the rule and all that.
 

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Would you mind sharing her age and if she's had prior relationships?
She recently turned 40. I'm 47 and I'm turning 48 in just a couple of months which doesn't seem real as I dont even feel like I should be 40 yet lol. And she was in a marriage for quite a few years and divorced last year
 

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Reason I ask is because I just read a post advising not to bother with women 25+ who have had prior relationships (except to have sex with them) as they are past their prime, have too much baggage and have nothing of value to offer.
Do you really believe that? Why do you think they always complain about women? That's a coping mechanism for not being able to get them. Any guy in here would be happy with a girl aged 25+ because they can't get none. The mental fantasy those guys have is to get a super young women where they can raise a family and them working like in the 1940s, while getting none in the process of their lives slipping away. Their egos can't accept things have changed.

You don't go to losers for any kind of advice, you to winners so their advice can make you win. Men in here only project their egos, notice how nobody posts any new woman they've fvcked? If you want instant opinion from men, you gotta post a picture of you, there you will see how valuable you are considered in the dating market on how you look. I'm gonna guess not much by asking those kind of questions.
 

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I’m new here but I’m a grown man. A lot of guys here think a 23 year old woman is over the hill. Things like that are coming from guys that are in their 20’s and still basically between being a child and a young adult. So consider that. You’re taking advice from youngsters.

It’s true though, I can tell the difference between screwing a woman who has only been with a couple guys, compared to a hundred guys. Their chemistry goes down the tubes when they get passed around.

I remember kissing this one babe who was super conservative and only had 1 boyfriend before me, and the kiss was the most intoxicating thing I’ve ever experienced. I’ve tried all kinds of drugs but nothing compares to that woman’s kiss. It was unbelievable.

Compare that to kissing a woman who has slept around and it’s like she’s empty and was drained of attraction chemicals.
 

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Do you really believe that? Why do you think they always complain about women? That's a coping mechanism for not being able to get them. Any guy in here would be happy with a girl aged 25+ because they can't get none. The mental fantasy those guys have is to get a super young women where they can raise a family and them working like in the 1940s, while getting none in the process of their lives slipping away. Their egos can't accept things have changed.

You don't go to losers for any kind of advice, you to winners so their advice can make you win. Men in here only project their egos, notice how nobody posts any new woman they've fvcked? If you want instant opinion from men, you gotta post a picture of you, there you will see how valuable you are considered in the dating market on how you look. I'm gonna guess not much by asking those kind of questions.
Thanks NJ but you misjudged why I posted that. Of course I don't really believe it, it's not my experience at all!!

I asked @Glassguy as I was hoping he would refute it which he did. So did @Dr.Suave (sort of) and now you. Thank you!

Maybe just maybe the person who posted it will reconsider his thought process as it certainly doesn't align with today's dating environment and hasn't for a while!

If you want instant opinion from men, you gotta post a picture of you, there you will see how valuable you are considered in the dating market on how you look. I'm gonna guess not much by asking those of questions.
Not looking for validation NJ, come on do my posts reflect that? You should know better.

I know my value and worth inside and out, I don't need confirmation of that at all..

I'm also not one to brag about my beauty/ attractiveness so won't, not my style. But let's just say I'm quite confident in that regard and that's all I'm gonna say about that! :D

Anyway, thanks again for responding and refuting what that member posted, much appreciated!
 
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This advice reeks of outdated pickup artist tactics, treating women as conquests and reducing human interactions to manipulative games. Such approaches perpetuate misogynistic ideologies, as evidenced by figures like Julien Blanc, whose seminars promoting coercive behaviors led to international bans. Embracing mistakes is one thing, but intentionally undermining women’s autonomy through strategies like negging crosses into unethical territory. Real progress in relationships comes from mutual respect and genuine connection, not from treating women as targets for self-improvement. It’s time to discard these harmful practices and approach dating with empathy and integrity.
The essence of the issue is to be honest with oneself (integrity). Negging, in the right context, is playful banter.
 

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I’m new here but I’m a grown man. A lot of guys here think a 23 year old woman is over the hill. Things like that are coming from guys that are in their 20’s and still basically between being a child and a young adult. So consider that. You’re taking advice from youngsters.

It’s true though, I can tell the difference between screwing a woman who has only been with a couple guys, compared to a hundred guys. Their chemistry goes down the tubes when they get passed around.

I remember kissing this one babe who was super conservative and only had 1 boyfriend before me, and the kiss was the most intoxicating thing I’ve ever experienced. I’ve tried all kinds of drugs but nothing compares to that woman’s kiss. It was unbelievable.

Compare that to kissing a woman who has slept around and it’s like she’s empty and was drained of attraction chemicals.
That's what whim worshiping does, it dulls the emotions.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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