The lost value of female friends

[Rhino]

This site has changed my life for the better. I can't deny that. But it seems that in gaming every woman that crosses my path, I've lost the type of relationship only found between good friends of the opposite sex. Sure, it sucks to "fall into the friend zone" when you're running your best game, but sometimes it's a good thing to have a female friend.
I type this after just having a conversation about relationships with a plate (I was already in the friend zone already most likely, I was just having a sh|tty day and decided to abandon my DJ state). And you know, I felt better. It felt better to stop having to analyze all of her actions, all of my actions, remind myself to use kino, routines, whatever. It totally became a no stress situation and I felt alright about it. I mean, I have other options, right? Of course. And I know, game is supposed to be fun, but sometimes you just need to give it a rest.
I think its nice to have a girl to talk about stuff with. As soft and AFC as it sounds. And of course, she's a bridge to more attractive women, which is why you never burn bridges, etc.
Anyways, some of you may feel otherwise, but whatever. I just felt like posting this.

 

[TheJazz]

If being Don Juan seems like work my friend, you're doing it wrong.
It's a state of mind that you never tire of. It's a constant thrill ride.

 

[Mr Wright]

Im one of those guys who naturally gravitate towards having female friends. When i was like 7ish my mum thought i was going to be gay because i always used to hang around with girls. Now i'd say about 70% of the people who i would say im close to are female and its so great. Guys from here would probably never friend zone a hot girl but i do it regularly because there's so many other benefits and i feel sleeping with them could make things complicated. Im thinking of one particular friend, shes hot, when we go out clubbing she gets loads of attention from guys and im also having to help her fight creeps off. But like when we go out she always brings 2-3 hot girls with her, so its my friend, myself and like 2 other hot chicks. Thats what guys on her dont get, if you have a hot girl friend, shes got other hot girl friends and since you're friend she will introduce them to you. I cant even count the amount of times ive hooked up with one of my friends friends. Also this girl im thinking about and I sometimes have moments where somethings really close to happening, like there's that moment where we're holding eye contact, not saying anything but we both know that if anything happened between us, it would fvck everything up! I've seen the guys this girl dates, they're guys who take what they want, they kinda treat her quite badly, ive spent enough time comforting her.


But I'd say having females friends has done me a massive favour though when its come to understanding women. Its natural for me now just to react to what a girl is doing, if shes sad, happy, horny or whatever, i can read it instantly. I didnt even realise it until i was talking to one of my guy friends about girls, hes a more physically attractive guy than me yet hes a virgin, hes scared to escalate. Ive tried to tell him so many times that a woman will never really give you a green light but unless shes saying no and physically resisting, you're free to go ahead.

I'd say once guys can get past trying to bonk every girl they meet, they can make some really good solid friendships which are mutually beneficial and it will help you understand women better. I genuinely love being friends with women who i have no intention of sleeping with.

 

[novaknight]

I've never seen much value in having female friends anymore. That's just me though...I guess.

 

[FlyGuyM]

i use girls to much, its impossible to have a friend thats a girl (unless i was friends with her before i transformed into a dj)

 

[Mr Wright]

Ok guys who think having female friends are worthless...im going to do vagina maths for you.

One girl, you can either screw her or be her friend.

...you screw her, you get a F buddy, a girl friend or a one night stand.

...you be friend her, you get access to all her friends for countless other girls.

For me its a no brainer!

 

[Zodiac]

Men and women cannot be friends until after sex has happened. Friendship blossoms out of one side not liking the sex and the other side would be crushed if the person that liked sex stopped talking to them altogether so the person that disliked the sex sticks them in the friendzone and then slowly begins to network through the other person into their friends.

This isn't just limited to one side or the other. People use each other for social proof and by getting in good with a person's friend you skip over many barriers otherwise in place.

 

[novaknight]

Ok guys who think having female friends are worthless...im going to do vagina maths for you.

One girl, you can either screw her or be her friend.

...you screw her, you get a F buddy, a girl friend or a one night stand.

...you be friend her, you get access to all her friends for countless other girls.

For me its a no brainer!

Mr Wright, if you use a girl just to get other girls to lay, is she truly a friend?

I mean, that's a very sound strategy, alright, but how does that make you a real friend?

 

[Scars]

Men and women cannot be friends until after sex has happened. Friendship blossoms out of one side not liking the sex and the other side would be crushed if the person that liked sex stopped talking to them altogether so the person that disliked the sex sticks them in the friendzone and then slowly begins to network through the other person into their friends.

This isn't just limited to one side or the other. People use each other for social proof and by getting in good with a person's friend you skip over many barriers otherwise in place.

Agreed. Most of the lady friends I have now are in fact past lays. But then again, this is the High School forum, and from what I remember back then, it was all about social status. I would say it's perfectly fine to have platonic friendships with girls, but take their advice with a grain of salt.

-Scars

 

[f283000]

What do you consider a female friend? Is it a female that you can count on? talk to on a regular basis? talk on the phone about life and stuff? go out with to hang out?

If that's the case I do not have female friends. I have moved around a lot so I'm far away from the females that knew me growing up up to high school. Maybe that has something to do with it but..

As I became an adult I realized that my interest in women was purely sexual and I really had no interest hanging out with them, putting up with their bs, drama, gossip etc.

I have to say the "no female friend" philosophy has helped my life and my game a lot. I don't get in the friend zone often I only approach women for seduction not to be friends. I don't allow any friendship with women to enter my life. I have reduced women to a black and white spectrum of "lovers or nothing."

I know it may sound a bit extreme but i know i'm not the only guy in this forum with the no female friend life philosophy. If you're more the type that likes to go clubbin to hang out w buddies to pick up women, play poker, pool and just do man stuff then really there's no time for female friends.

A woman in my life is my lover not my friend. I stand by this philosophy.

 

[Mr Wright]

Mr Wright, if you use a girl just to get other girls to lay, is she truly a friend?

I mean, that's a very sound strategy, alright, but how does that make you a real friend?

Yeah, shes not only my friend for that, but in the context of this thread, its a pretty good benefit. Like when we're just doing whatever, im not there going "so you gonna introduce me to XYZ?", I give her advice on guys, we just generally have a good time. Girls are human, to restrict yourself to friends of only one gender seems a little silly. Be friends with a lesbian, they're cool to hang out with.

Men and women cannot be friends until after sex has happened. Friendship blossoms out of one side not liking the sex and the other side would be crushed if the person that liked sex stopped talking to them altogether so the person that disliked the sex sticks them in the friendzone and then slowly begins to network through the other person into their friends.

This isn't just limited to one side or the other. People use each other for social proof and by getting in good with a person's friend you skip over many barriers otherwise in place.

Interesting, but its a pretty strong generalisation. I can think of one girl who im really close to but havent had sex with and really have no intention of either. Sometimes you're just not attracted to someone and you form a platonic relationship.