The Letter

HollowHorizon

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Oct 18, 2003
Messages
271
Reaction score
0
Age
38
Location
New York
To late

Too late i gave her that letter and the next day i saw her. She had tears in her eyes and just walked up and hugged me for a minut or two now i can't get her to leave me alone. she calls me at her lunch breaks. were going out and this has been a risk that i took dispite what you guys said witch i usaly dont but someplace in the bible says the biggest risk of all is not taking any and i took one and the outcome is tremondus

Thanks
 

pulse

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Aug 30, 2000
Messages
228
Reaction score
1
Good Job Mr. Horizon :)
 

Walk this Way

Don Juan
Joined
Mar 2, 2004
Messages
110
Reaction score
1
Re: To late

Originally posted by HollowHorizon
just walked up and hugged me for a minut or two now i can't get her to leave me alone.
You'll be getting lotsa hugs pal.
 

WestCoaster

Master Don Juan
Joined
May 8, 2003
Messages
2,028
Reaction score
31
... Just wait till the aftermath

The letter doesn't stop their bucko. She has you where she wants you and she'll tread on you any day or week now. Just be prepared for the worst.

AFC's may strike gold early but will pay for it down the road. A DJ controls the relationship, even subtley.
 

Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

HollowHorizon

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Oct 18, 2003
Messages
271
Reaction score
0
Age
38
Location
New York
AFC's may strike gold early but will pay for it down the road. A DJ controls the relationship, even subtley.
I think i have controll, becuse controlling her emotions can be my greatest strength with any women. I feel if i can make her feel good about her self and emotionaly i will have a much better prize than gold. I dont like to think of myself as a gold digger i like to think i am the gold


Ill keep you guys updated
 

YATTA

Don Juan
Joined
Jun 27, 2002
Messages
15
Reaction score
0
Location
NY
I feel if i can make her feel good about her self and emotionaly i will have a much better prize than gold.
The thing is make her feel good about herself when she's with you, but not as a sort of complement machine, or idolized goddess. You're not lucky to be with her, she's lucky to be with you.
 

Black Bahindian

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Sep 19, 2003
Messages
227
Reaction score
0
Age
40
Location
A city of buildings, blocks, and booty
Originally posted by HollowHorizon
Thanks for showing me a good time last night. That makes me feel so good inside that completely turned my whole night around with just a few simple words. “You want to dance?” I looked up at you and got up without hesitation in those same few seconds I couldn’t picture someone like you to even speak to someone with my criteria.
Wait, wait, wait...this seems familiar. The woman you sent the letter to, is that the same woman you were talking about in this thread:

http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48161
 

ManOMan

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 23, 2003
Messages
504
Reaction score
2
HollowHorizon,

Seriously WHO are you kidding? I showed your letter to a few female friends, they were laughing their asses off, puking and poking fun at your grammar, some of them said it was a nice gesture, but they would never take you seriously (this was like 5-6 different girls) that I emailed your letter to asking for objective opinions

If you are serious and some woman actually took a liking to your little letter, Good for you.

But Like I said, most of the women I sent your letter to balked and were laughing.

Your girl was in "tears" huh? hehehe OK
 

Men frequently err by talking too much. They often monopolize conversations, droning on and on about topics that bore women to tears. They think they're impressing the women when, in reality, they're depressing the women.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

HollowHorizon

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Oct 18, 2003
Messages
271
Reaction score
0
Age
38
Location
New York
haha, its alright to critisize me and im still 17 and not full of wisdome but i know what i say comes from the heart i know if i am honest i will get far in life. Some of you claim to be "Don Juans" And as "Don Juans" You should help eachother rather than to give negitive feedback only being ignorant makes you look like the chump. If i have success good for me. If i dont i have only to gain wisdome. Witch i will be able to share advice with others as i do so. You call this advice? My mindset is not on following those of a don juan becuse i am not a follower, but i do learn from others. The mindset i have is to provoke my spirituality in a way to been seen as more rare then others(for example giving the letter) Most guys would have not done that on the sheer fact that they will be rejected (witch you guys are saying i will be becuse of a simple letter) I understand if i come out with the true meaning of what i belive in along with honesty will be a factor of wholeness and women will not percive me to be"fake" All i can do is be myself speak from within face my fears and Certainly do not let others stand in my way becuse they are ejecting negitive feedback and cage me again of the brainwashing and easily aquired thought and fear of rejection becuse i shal not follow rules but use them as a guidence toward decisons and choices in situations,Witch i cannot fail no more..i shal not be in contempt and only the wholness of honesty justice can be deliverd as deserved By the Way

some of them said it was a nice gesture, but they would never take you seriously (this was like 5-6 different girls) that I emailed your letter to asking for objective opinions
First of its not a gesture of any kind Second of all you asked for objective opions so obviously you where asking for negitive ones to begin with D!CK

Peace Out Fellas
 

princelydeeds

Master Don Juan
Joined
May 23, 2003
Messages
645
Reaction score
41
Location
Pittsburgh, Pa
welcome to the friendzone, POPULATION: YOU!
 

ManOMan

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 23, 2003
Messages
504
Reaction score
2
hahahahah

HollowHorizon,

you think we here a so suave are learning to be dishonest and self restrained?

Wrong buddy, we are all a bunch of guys who have learned that a 2 1/2 page email proclmation of love with a girl you barely know is counterproductive.

We are just disseminating that info to you.

You really think, if you tell a girl you are nervous, that she is sooo beautiful on the inside because she didnt judge you on your looks, or tell everything you think and feel will win you points?

In a perfect world it would, I have been through this many times, and thats why Im telling you

maybe you'll win, maybe you'll lose, but statisically, sending girls like this emails throwing up all your emotions and self pride will get you no where

I think you are full of BS , I think you sent the email ,and the girl never responded, who is being the deeceptive one now? ME or YOU?

why?

"She had tears in her eyes and just walked up and hugged me for a minut or two now i can't get her to leave me alone."

Umm you sent the email less then a day ago, how can you have the problem of having her "leave you alone"

nice try buddy, seee ya back in the highschool forum
 

honeyshark

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Apr 16, 2003
Messages
201
Reaction score
1
To the Hateration Nation,

Firstly, what's with all of the scorn. Let HollowHorizon do his thing, give him advice, not scorn.

No, I don't think it was a good idea to send that letter for all the reasons already articulated by other posters. But it is possible that he elicited a good response from the gesture. Just because writing such a letter is a textbook AFC move doesn't mean it will fail. AFC does not equal automatic failure. Thus, all this cynicism of how the girl recieved the letter is not merited. Just because her response goes against the common grain of what we all assumed would happen doesn't mean he is lying. We should not throw away his ideas just because we don't believe such an outcome is possible. Instead, we should critically examine what happened. Why did the girl react in this way, and what is going to happen next?

I think that in many philosophies, DJism included, the majority of people agree on one particular canon and set out to propagate said canon. They loose their critical distance and no longer analyze new ideas, they just repeat blindly what they have learned, refusing to believe anything could happen that does not fall within their predictions of what is possible. This really doesn't help anyone as it prevents further developement of ideas and techniques.

Give HollowHorizon some credit. He made a move, and it seems to have paid off, at least for now.

There are a few facets that could have influenced the outcome of this case...
1) the girl has not been in many real relationships. Thus, the letter touched her deeply. I have noticed that more experienced girls don't go for this kind of stuff and are much less impressed by it.
2) she already likes him a lot. Then, pretty much anything Horizon does won't matter.
3) she is reacting emotionally as a friend would react, but is looking for a way out.

I actually believe that using this letter writing technique on younger, inexperienced girls can work if you want a quick relationship. A girl not used to being pursued will respond with strong feeling in turn. She will get caught up in the moment and the thrill of having a boy who likes her. After awhile, however, this will wear off. Girls with experience have already gone through this stage of lovey-dovey virginal love, and are much more realistic (read hardened).

Peace.
 

ManOMan

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 23, 2003
Messages
504
Reaction score
2
NO, Im not some DJ BIBLE Fanatic that lives and dies by the rules

but do very much HATE fake Field Reports of people who took a different route, and report positive results

How do I know he is Lying? I dont

But look at his statements, they sound so contrived and consistent with his own success

"the girl was in tears?"

YA! He just MET her! why would an email like this move a girl he just met?

The girl wont leave him alone?

OK- First it was him who wouldnt leave her alone, and had like 900% Ineterest level, now she wont leave him alone?

Finally, read some of this guys other posts, you will see
 

Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

TesuqueRed

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 30, 2001
Messages
1,852
Reaction score
7
Location
SF, US
He and she are only 17. This shyt works on puppy-love stuff. Wait till she stops writing in bubble-fonts, putting hearts over her "i"'s and smiley faces next to her signature.
 

ManOMan

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 23, 2003
Messages
504
Reaction score
2
ya know I always thought this kind of crap works on the older ladies 26+

most teens/twenties dont buy into this stuff
 

Reto

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 3, 2003
Messages
836
Reaction score
1
Age
51
It didn't work He's saying it di to save face... Besides, would you really want the girls that it worked on?

I say there's a troll lurking around...
 

Jay Fiedler

Don Juan
Joined
Nov 22, 2003
Messages
199
Reaction score
0
Age
57
Location
Madison Heights
I guess my only other reaction to this thread is I'm amazed at how poorly a 17 year old who is a junior in high school can spell and use proper grammer.

How has he passed grades in school using writing like that? I feel bad for our coming generations.

In edit: In additon, any girl who would think that that letter was anything but psycho has to be somewhat psychotic herself.
 

InLawsHateMe

Master Don Juan
Joined
Sep 2, 2002
Messages
1,165
Reaction score
0
Location
Columbus, Ohio USA
No letters.. no nothing.....

....personally.... but everyone's different, and the bottomline is, if you had to ask us here, chances are, you probably weren't sure about it yourself.... again, everyone is different, and you know her better than we do.. but remember this, your letter will come back to haunt you.... always remember that you make the bed, you will have to sleep in it.

Peeps on here can tell you thing syou want to here, and things you don't. The one person you have to listen to is YOU... sometimes it may require you to take a step out and look in on the situation, to see the big picture... first the letter, then what? .....you gonna be her personally door mat now? Just be careful dude....
 

At this point you probably have a woman (or multiple women) chasing you around, calling you all the time, wanting to be with you. So let's talk about how to KEEP a woman interested in you once you have her. This is BIG! There is nothing worse than getting dumped by a woman that you really, really like.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

Top