The lame myth that "Texting Kills Relationships" and that a Phone Call is better

[Thundernuts]

Okay guys shake your d!cks this pissing contest is over.

Back to the main point. I still have trouble grasping the idea that women are being gamed solely through txt messages. From the beginning I thought OP was defending txting because I've personally seen it said all the time on SS that you should never txt. It wasn't until I start reading OP's responses to other posts that I started to have my doubts.

Lets be real, you cannot go without txting ever. This day and age, especially in America, your expected to be in the loop unless your very old or a hippy. I just feel that telling some of the newer less experienced guys not to txt a lot is better than encouraging the start txting and game her through that media. I can't speak for everyone but I know I lost a few chances with women because I over-txted them.

The hardest part is learning how to gauge each woman appropriately in order to get a better grasp as to where you stand with her in regards to her IL. Most guys get confused with this and start going nuts. This is why txting is not something I would recommend to someone new in the game.

 

[zekko]

It literally takes like 10 seconds to fire off a text, so I don't buy into this "If you text her it shows you have no life" idea. I do agree that you should not sit on the phone all day texting her, anymore than you should sit around on the phone all day talking to her. Overall, I would say if you are a busy guy, it's a lot easier to fire off a text than to make a phone call. So the "I'm a man, I'm too busy to text" doesn't really hold water.

Texting is just a tool, like online dating is. I don't use online dating (haven't needed to) but there's no question there who guys who get laid with it. I think the most useful thing texting can do for you is build rapport.

 

[backbreaker]

Okay guys shake your d!cks this pissing contest is over.

Back to the main point. I still have trouble grasping the idea that women are being gamed solely through txt messages. From the beginning I thought OP was defending txting because I've personally seen it said all the time on SS that you should never txt. It wasn't until I start reading OP's responses to other posts that I started to have my doubts.

Lets be real, you cannot go without txting ever. This day and age, especially in America, your expected to be in the loop unless your very old or a hippy. I just feel that telling some of the newer less experienced guys not to txt a lot is better than encouraging the start txting and game her through that media. I can't speak for everyone but I know I lost a few chances with women because I over-txted them.

The hardest part is learning how to gauge each woman appropriately in order to get a better grasp as to where you stand with her in regards to her IL. Most guys get confused with this and start going nuts. This is why txting is not something I would recommend to someone new in the game.

i mean schematics aside, anytime someone says NEVER, EVER, ALWAYS you should be leery.

I mean, texting has good purposes. alot of times i will be talking with a client via skype and i will text my wife or something like that. or you can be somewhere where you can't be on the phone or yo can be in a situation where you just need tos ay something short and sweet.

but that's not what we are talking about here. we are talking about guys who are trying to use text messages to escalate interest from a woman. Text, nor the phone for that matter, should not be used as mediums to attempt to raise interest. This is how women primarily communicate with women and thus you are preemptively putting yourself in the friend zone, among other things.

the phone and texts should be to setup meetings, for specific requests. even now if i text my wife it's like "can you pick up some milk" it's not "how are you doing"

 

[VikingKing]

It's all interest related. Casanova gamed bıtches with a quill pen, as well as face to face. If you know how to mac, you can do it with smoke signals, and if her interest is high, she'll bite every time. If she has no interest, you can buy your own satellite and she won't care.

"Disinterest kills relationships!"

 

[VikingKing]

You know. Im my short experience in dating, there have been times where I never really texted or talked on the phone much at all, and had good success. There have been times where yes, i had textathons, talkathons. I think you should avoid doing that. I've had success with though, usually if it text with a woman a lot I end up fvcking her, or getting something in return.

For me its ok to text or talk here and there. If you know how to talk to women, they really like that, you can get them hooked on you like a crackhead gets hooked on crack.

Some times if you just know how to talk, you can get almost anything you want and you can get it fast.

For you older gents. I get it, what works for you works. But you have to understand, I'm 25, im from a different generation, shivt works differently for me. Yes you live in this time, but your in a completely different position than me. I have to do what I have to do to survive and have my needs met. This is somthing my dad never can understand, hes like 60 somthing, grew up a flower child. I tried to tell him about game and stuff like this. He didnt want to hear it. He is very alpha though.

You can attract a woman 1,000's of miles away and get her all worked up. Ive done it.

5 mins of an "alphas" time is worth more than 5 years of 5 betas time.

If a woman is attracted to you, you can text and call all you want and it makes zero difference.

If you dont like to text or call, thats ok.

I wouldnt encourage most guys on here to attempt that approach. They wont know wen its a waste of time, and when it will pay off to invest time.

Ive done it and had success, and ive also not done it and had success.

Situations vary. The factors involved vary. You have to be able to perceive the situation for exactly what the fvck it is, and decide is it going to be worth it, what will you get out of it?

If you can do that, you can do what ever you want, text or call or don't.

If your smart, and know how to talk to people and women. You can get whatever you want from them.

Frame is everything. You dont even have to be right or wrong, thats a non issue.

 

[Thundernuts]

And just a FYI I can fight my own battles here on SS--I don't want a referee or anyone else telling me when to stop or start arguing with someone. Like you I've been on here awhile and will occasionally mix things up with members. Mind your own business please.

I wrote that more because ive been seeing a lot of threads turn into arguments between members instead of focusing more on why the thread was started in the first place. Its actually been happening more and more from what ive seen these past couple of months and it very much annoys me when I have put time invested into the thread only to see it turn into two members arguing. No offense but when my time is invested, even in the smallest amount, im involved and it is my business. I'm just a guy on the internet man no need to feel like im trying to control you.

 

[rascal99v]

I respect the different viewpoints on here, but I respectfully disagree with them.

Espi has got it right.

Atom, I have said before that I think you're one of the best posters on here and you give amazing insight and knowledge. I wish you would post more to help the other members. But I do disagree with your texting viewpoint.

Mauser96, I don't know what your deal is, but you have shown yourself to be an insecure and angry guy. Thinking I was directing a thread at you. And then you make things up about my thread with your own opinion. Lame. :yes:

I'm surprised at the thinking of some people. That's why I made this thread.

A true DJ doesn't expect every man to follow one one exact way to game women. Because everything you do, isn't going to work for every other DJ trying to game women.

You can't expect that, because women are different and so are men. If you think that there is only one right way to game women, then you don't have much experience, nor should you be trying to give advice because you are just a keyboard jockey.

But that is what these anti texting guys promote with their advice. They expect you to follow their old advice from 1984 when we had no technology. They want you to get her number, wait 4 days, call her up, set up a date, and expect high interest on her part to get laid. And they want every guy to follow that routine. That routine is not going to work on a lot of women, and it's not gong to work for a lot of men in 2014. You can argue with me all you want. If you're trying to game chicks 20-28 you should add texting to your game and not bash it. If the chicks like you, it's not going to "kill interest".

A man who isn't naturally c0cky and funny isn't going to be that guy. So, expecting him to use that technique will only make him fail. Being c0cky and funny isn't the only way to game women.

Same thing as with this texting nonsense. Texting highly interested chicks until the short time you bang them is not going to "kill any interest". It doesn't work that way. If there is any lost interest, that means that she really wasn't interested anyway.

These guys who make these anti texting threads always blame a text for everything. But they don't take into account the chick was never interested, but still they want to blame the text.

Bashing texting is hypocritical when the same guy can make a chick lose interest over the phone by talking.

A chick who doesn't really like you isn't going to gain higher interest when you decide to call her. But these anti texting guy will always tell you that. Interest is interest, and it doesn't matter what you use.

These anti texting guys think that a phone call will get you better results. It won't when the guy has no game. If the chick has already thought about fvcking you, then your method won't matter because she's already wet for you.

My whole point is this, if you don't know how to, or don't like to text, then don't bash a method that works for other men.

I'm pointing out the hypocritical thinking about texting and the interest level with women. If you have great game and don't text, then that is great. But don't make sh1t up and bash texting, when you can't do it or don't like to use it. There are different ways to game women, yours isn't the only way to do it. Also, a woman's low interest level isn't going to rise when you decide to call her. That is a lame false myth because your princess will be in another castle. :yes:

For most men, if they can't communicate over a phone, they won't be able to communicate in person. If you can't talk to women, you won't be able to talk to them period.

You can abuse anything when talking to women. Texting, phone calling, talking in person. So, blaming a text and thinking that you are going to have better results than abusing a phone call is ridiculous.

Men who are bad with women are bad with them all around. Boring men are boring no matter if they talk on the phone or in person. Your phone call or your date in person isn't going to make you not boring. That's how you are normally.

But these anti texting guys use this lame myth that your text will turn her off, but you will be amazing in person. Again, it doesn't work that way, if you're boring, you're going to be boring through text, on the phone, and in person. It's never going to change unless YOU change.

These anti texting guys always tell you that a phone call is better. When the chick has no interest in talking, you won't be talking on the phone to her at all. It doesn't mater what way you use to communicate with her. But these same guys think her interest level will rise over the phone. :crackup:

The lame myth is that she will be more interested on the phone than via text. That is not true because interest is interest, it's not going to get any higher than what she already has.

Guys who spin many plates and get many new numbers always text. There's no time to be calling all these chicks on the phone. I got 3 new numbers last night. I'm going to TEXT these chicks.. First, because I'm going to see if there is still interest from what I saw last night. Second, because I'm going to game them before the date. I'm not going to waste my time calling to set up a date, then waste my time going on a date if it doesn't benefit me. I want to find that out before I set up the date. Because there will be real interest that I know of and the chicks always put out faster that way. It saves you time and it gets the job done faster.

Another point, all the dudes that are stealing your girlfriends are texting them and getting them wet through text. Your girlfriends cheat all through text until they go through with hooking up with the other guy. So, if it works on taken chicks, it will work on single chicks as well. So, to insult men and call them pvssies for using texting is lame.

There seems to a lot of anger with some men about texting, trying to diminish it as something less. Who cares what you use to get laid, that's the whole point of being successful DJ. :yes:

Highly interested chicks will keep their interest unless you fvck it up. If they like you enough they will find you better than what you are.

I went out to lunch on Friday with a female friend who was getting me a prospect for work. During the lunch, she was getting texts from this dude. I thought they weren't funny myself, but she thought they were hilarious. She likes him, so his texts were funny to her because of her high interest.

His texts aren't "killing the relationship". In fact, it's adding to her high interest until she fvcks him sometime this weekend. Then after the dude gets laid, he can go about his business and move on to the next chick

That's how gaming women works, you do it for the short time necessary until you get laid. Then you can move on or dial down the texting while making the chick work for you. High interest women will do that.

So, don't bash texting when it works and try to diminish it as something less, because these lame myths are all bullsh1t designed to give you false thinking when it's all really about interest and attraction.

No interest = no attraction = no getting laid.

Your phone call or gaming in person isn't going to change that.

Texting makes no difference either, so bash all you want, because I know for a fact it works.

I highly doubt you can get women wet through texts unless you're very descriptive (which should be avoidable in texts). Talking to her on the phone with your voice is much more effective.

Obviously you don't know, and you don't text, so you shouldn't be making remarks about things you don't know about that actually work.

Ask all the chicks who cheated on their boyfriends how wet they got before they banged the other dude.

High interest is high interest dude, doesn't matter what comminucaton method you use.

When a chick is not interested in talking to you on the phone, she won't be hearing your voice because she isn't going to answer your call.

Why can't you guys understand that? A phone call isn't going to change her lack of interest in you.

 

[Kevin F Study]

I just had an accident. I peed and **** in my pants

 

[backbreaker]

Fair enough. I respect your articulate response. I usually add them to my Ignore List. You can do the same--not trying to be a jerk about it.

acutally.. with you being a mod.. i can't. i tried lol.

 

[SeymourCake]

I highly doubt you can get women wet through texts unless you're very descriptive (which should be avoidable in texts). Talking to her on the phone with your voice is much more effective.

 

[zekko]

But that is what these anti texting guys promote with their advice. They expect you to follow their old advice from 1984 when we had no technology.

I do think that a lot of this anti-texting bias has been grandfathered in from the older generation of PUAs.

I went out to lunch on Friday with a female friend who was getting me a prospect for work. During the lunch, she was getting texts from this dude. I thought they weren't funny myself, but she thought they were hilarious. She likes him, so his texts were funny to her because of her high interest.

Texting can help build rapport, which should reduce flaking.

I highly doubt you can get women wet through texts unless you're very descriptive (which should be avoidable in texts).

I've done it. Maybe it's not the best way, but I can attest that it is certainly possible.

From what I've read here, it sounds like the saying should be changed to "OVER-texting kills relationships". Would that make everybody happy?

 

[zekko]

I have been through enough women to know that texting is NEVER a problem and for the DJ who actually has sh*t to do in his life.

Most of the argument against texting seems to boil down to the idea that newbies should not text because they won't be able to contain their enthusiasm and they will over-text or otherwise mess it up. Which seems like an entirely different statement than you should never text at all.

Although it makes you wonder if you follow that logic, maybe newbies should not talk to girls at all because they will probably turn AFC and mess it up somehow. Sometimes I think most of the advice around here centers on the idea of barely having any contact with the girl at all - Don't text her, don't call her, don't be available, etc. Lol.

 

[Jariel]

I highly doubt you can get women wet through texts unless you're very descriptive (which should be avoidable in texts). Talking to her on the phone with your voice is much more effective.

Yes, it does take some description...just telling her what you plan to do to her. Avoid being too explicit, but I've had women playing with themselves, calling me up as they're getting off or sending me photos/videos of them getting off, and often enough when we meet in person they're instantly horny and ready to go.

The great thing is, they've probably been fantasising about you in between the text and the date and getting so excited and frustrated. And since you've already laid the groundwork, you don't have to do a whole lot of escalation in person...just make reference to the text messages and pick up where you left off.

If a woman can get off on reading erotic novels, then she can get off on reading texts, especially when there's a possibility of that fantasy coming to life!

 

[cordoncordon]

Somehow I missed this thread. Funny though as soon as I saw the thread title and saw it was 3 pages long I thought to myself "I bet backbreaker is posting in this thread and I bet he he going at it with someone." Sure enough. Gotta love it. Plus I think we may have all hit a low point when we have 3 page threads on texting. Talk about over analyzing! :yes:

Anyway, since we have all fallen into this abyss....as for texting. I don't have a problem with it. I think if you absolutely say NO TEXTING you are burying your head in the sand and ignoring a key tool, actually the #1 tool, used in society today to communicate with others. So no, texting is not the problem. The problem is too much texting. In regards to dating, texting should be used to make a date here or there, to say your running late if need be, to confirm something perhaps. Maybe even to pass on an observation or a funny comment. But it in no way, shape, or form should be used extensively to communicate with a girl. You should not have running text convos with a girl. You are not her bestie as I believe Atom said....and I agree. Use it on a hit and run basis ONLY. But use it.

 

[Atom Smasher]

The anti-texting clan are essentially saying that you can use it to your advantage when you know what you're doing, but it can be easily over-done. Idle chit-chat will backfire on you and make you too "present" with her (what I call "common").

This will negate a woman's innate need to fantasize and guess about you, which is the very thing that causes her to fall in love with you. When you intrude upon this process, the process becomes watered down and inefficient, and incomplete.

Essential for her becoming hooked on you is her wondering where you are, what you're doing during the day and night. Remove that, and you remove some of the essential structural nuts and bolts that will later hold the relationship together.

I've observed that this dynamic is hidden from the young (I didn't even see it till my 50s).

Too much of you is a bad, bad thing, especially in the beginning of a relationship. For the relationship to stand long-term, she needs to spend some significant time wondering and fantasizing about your activities and feel a sense of missing your presence.

Like all things with women, it's a delicate balance. Texting has its uses, but I repeat here that it should be used with skill and intent. Idle texting chit-chat will tank your relationship because it will remove the essential dynamic mentioned above.

 

[Harry Wilmington]

Wow - this post is STILL going strong??

Well, I'm not one to make assumptions that this post is based on my well-known mantra, "Texting KILLS Relationships." I mean, just because I say it on most of my posts here on SoSuave doesn't mean it's necessarily aimed towards me in any way... lol... Anyway, I didn't want to respond right away because I've had this argument with many people on these boards and figured I'd wait to see what the responses were.

I will admit, there have been a lot of good points on both sides. Some have given good reasons as to why to avoid texting altogether, whereas some have defended to the death this sudden "have-to" of texting women when trying to game them. Allow me to give some insight as to why I came up with the phrase in the first place, as well as break down what it's actually saying...

You see, when it comes to all the dating methods that are out there, I'm an odds-maker. I like to do things that are going to increase my odds of catching - and keeping - a woman around for long periods of time. And there are TONS of ways one can do it, even within one method of pick up. For example, if choosing to do online dating - which is where I've had the most success - there are different ways to try and approach a girl: you can send her a question, you can send her a funny statement about her profile, you can act like you're already in a conversation with her, you can send her a simple wink or nod (or whatever short form of "this guy is interested in you" you can send to a girl). Each of these methods can, in fact, get you results; however, each of these methods also has a numbered odd chance of working, some of which are higher than others. In this example, I have found that sending a girl a funny statement about her profile has resulted in more girls responding to me than the other 3 methods, so it's the one I use the most.

How does this translate to the whole idea of texting? In terms of keeping an actual relationship going, I have found that, between myself and the hundreds of postings I've read here on SoSuave over the years, a major factor in relationships that end up breaking down is TEXTING MISCOMMUNICATIONS.

For starters, a lot of guys assume that what they're sending a girl via messaging is being interpreted in the way they intend it to be, and that's not always the case. So, you can have someone who's a mack at putting words together via text, and then he sends that one joke that ends up being seen as mean-spirited by her, to the point where she just stops responding altogether. And, without the vocal inflection or facial gestures in place to give further interpretation to her that you're just being silly, it becomes a thing where the guy now has to defend himself via text about something that, in his head, wasn't all that serious to begin with.

Secondly, as great as some guys think they are at texting, they may not be so great when they're not getting the texting interaction they'd like. For example: Texty McGee decides to send a girl he's seen 4 times a random flirty text in the middle of the day, so he messages her "Hey there, cutie girl, was just thinkin' about u and those sexy legs of yours ". In this example, her reaction is one of two things: either she text him back nothing, or she sends a one-worded "thx".

Now, for all my text-lovers out there, what does her response - or non-response - mean? Assuming Texty McGee comes here on SoSuave, the answers he'd get would range from "she's just playing games" to "you need to spin more plates" to "she's probably screwing other guys, you need to go no contact!" And this guy would probably agree to all these things because he's so sure of his texting game and her interest in him that he'd only see these things as being the case. Go ahead - before you read further, think of your first gut reaction about this scenario and why you think she didn't respond...

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And the answer, it turns out, is simple: she has a JOB, and she was in a meeting, and didn't want to seem rude to her boss by responding or being caught typing. And these things DO happen. But most guys, in this day and age of texting and assumptions of instant response, end up getting all butt-hurt. Rather than assume the girl may be doing something else in that moment besides waiting for his text messages, he automatically assumes she's playing games. EVEN THE MOST CONFIDENT OF TEXTERS OFTEN FEEL THIS WAY WHEN A WOMAN DOESN'T RESPOND BACK TO THEM RIGHT AWAY. And their reaction, as I've read time and time again on these boards, is to try and hit her back with some kind of message questioning why she's suddenly playing games, or becoming not as confident and asking if she's screwing other guys or why she's acting all distant, etc.

Like I said before, I'm an odds maker. Can a person game a woman on the phone, or have her panties dripping with the things he's said? Absolutely! But, in terms of trying to keep a relationship going, out of all the methods out there available at a man's disposal, texting is the one with the HIGHEST PROBABILITY of making a woman lose interest in you. It causes the most misunderstandings, the most miscommunication, the most arguments... it leaves evidence of things said by you which can be later used against you. Heck, even the "positive flirty" text being sent can later be turned around by her as "all you ever do is text me when you're trying to get some, you dog!" (TRUST, I've seen it happen.)

So, perhaps the phrase I came up with sounds like it goes too far. But it's meant to do that - it's meant to make a guy stop and think about how much texting he should REALLY be doing. It's not just about the use of it for pick-up, but about the overall effects it can have on getting into, and keeping, a relationship. You have a better chance of keeping the peace and not having so many feelings and words and other things be eschewed if you limit your texting, or if you let her initiate most of it. And, realistically, a girl that likes you will understand that and not flip out so hard about it - and if she does, congrats! You just found another way to weed out a girl that would have been strict, controlling, and ultimately no fun in the first place.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to call my girlfriend up to set up our date for this week. Ciao!

 

[VikingKing]

I got a girl to break up with her boyfriend, drive 8 hours to stay with me, she paid for everything. I had sex when ever I wanted. I had my cake and ate it also.

All a result of talkathons, and constant texting for a couple weeks.

I wouldn't suggest you try that though. I never really tried it and failed before. But he conditions have to be just right, and you have to be able to perceive.

Just saying.

 

[Peterpack]

Nowadays you don't have a choice !

You must have a strong Text game because many young girls just won't answer their phone unless it's one of their girlfriends

young girls are just as nervous to talk to guys on the phone as guys are calling them. They feel more comfortable with the nature of texting

Im talking about when you get a girl's number from a night out

 

[Harry Wilmington]

LoL @ Peterpack - Just by reading your post, I can literally hear the fear in your message, a fear that has been brainwashed into many of the people on these boards. The fear of what will happen if you don't "bow down" to the woman of today's alleged demand and need for text conversation. It's laughable at best.

Interestingly, while on this page I had another window open where Arsenio Hall was interviewing Prince a few weeks ago, and the musician told him that he doesn't carry a cell phone at all. One wonders how Prince would be able to get girls to meet up with him without him being able to be in immediate contact with him, lol... Then I remembered back to a few years ago when I didn't have money coming in on a regular basis, to the point where I had a cell phone but didn't always have service. Despite this set back where I couldn't even make any calls, I still managed to get dates by using a land line phone or my friend's phone. And there are many more guys out there that are able to use the phone simply to get dates and keep their interest by making the date spectacular, then leaving the girl with a feeling of want to be in contact with them again.

Texting has become more and more like a crutch for guys - they try to use it as their sole means of communicating with a girl for a wide variety of reasons, none of which is really all that valid. Take this guy - "Young girls are just as nervous to talk to guys on the phone..." So what? I WANT her to feel somewhat nervous because it means she's in her head about trying to make a good impression on me, thus keeping her on her toes. "Many young girls won't answer the phone unless it's one of their girlfriends" - this is also a lie. If they're not picking up it's because they don't want to talk to you in the first place. I have yet to call a girl that gave me some lame excuse about "oh, I just don't feel comfortable picking up the phone and having a conversation." If anything, the girls that have high interest are looking to talk to the guy as soon as possible, the quickest way of which is... well, in person; but the SECOND quickest way of which is a phone call.

And yes, this includes after having met a girl during a night out. Again, guys have been tricked into believing that a girl is going to forget about them the next day if they don't start texting them. How dumb is that logic? If I meet a girl at a party, unless I have Alzheimer's disease I'm going to be able to remember her in four days if my interest is high. Well guess what? The same goes for them! And before someone hits me back with the excuse of "Oh, but she'll meet 100 other guys before then and she'll forget about you..." the reality is - and this is the difference between the sexes - just because a woman is getting constant offers doesn't mean she wants to take all of them. She's only going to want to take the ones she has a HIGH interest in. So, if you meet her at a party and can read her interest as being high, you can go for a good amount of time before you contact her and she'll STILL want to hear from you, regardless of who she meets in between time.

Really, guys - build up some confidence and stop thinking you need to be in constant contact with a woman. Until she's the girlfriend, she shouldn't even be getting daily calls, let alone daily/hourly/by-the-minute text messages.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Stop Holding Out, Bruh

So, we have these anti texting guys who love to bash texting all the time, and they like tell us how bad it is.

The problem with you're analysis is that you're under empathizing the power of personal contact, (e.g. in person, the phone, or Skype,) and over empathizing the results that texting yields. A series of :flowers: :cheer: or with a series of witticisms written in textings acronyms isn't suddenly going to compel a chick to go out with you. What's taking place is reacting to the previous good feelings that you let her with in from the previous encounter. If texting is raising a chick's interest level to the levels that you're implying, you need to share that information with the rest of us and write a how-to guide so you can make money off your ideas and knowledge.

They will tell us how "Texting Kills Relationships"

Just curious, are you jealous of Harry? Dead a$$. From Rex's perspective, there seems to be a lot of deflection and self projection going on here.

and how you can't gauge any real interest because you can't hear the "tone in her voice",

So you mean to tell me that you discern a person's mental state or mood simply by the tonality in their voice, really bruh?

or you are too "available and needy" because you're texting.

Link please. I guarantee to you that you're taking a statement entirely out of context. What has been said, that by texting guys aren't separating themselves from the crowd and they're using it as crutch as to delay interacting with the chick. Dudes (for some reason,) feel that being rejecting by a via text is a lot less damaging than to be rejected via some personal interaction.

Well, I say that's all bullsh1t because none of it is true.

You're basing this opinion on what?

These guys use texting as an excuse because they don't know how to do it.

Rex is anxiously awaiting rascals99v's Guide to Gaming Women and Getting Laid Solely via Texting Vol. I. Dude if you indeed have this wealth of knowledge on the subject matter, stop holding out and share it with the rest of us.

So, they blame texting for the problem when it's really themselves who don't know how to game women.

Again, you're implying that texting is superior to texting. I'm of the train of thought that texting should only be used for logistical purposes. However, (and correct ole Rex if he's wrong,) you're saying that a chick's interest level can be raised by simply viewing binary code symbols on a LCD screen.

If she has no interest, that's why your texting is failing, which is because she isn't interested. That's not the fault of texting, that's low interest on the part of the chick. It doesn't matter what type of communication you used with her, she still won't be interested if she doesn't like you. So, to say that "texting killed a relationship" is asinine

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Let's say you get a broad's number right and it's a lukewarm number close. You're saying that you can convey personality and charm via texting, that some how can't be done over the phone, really bruh?

If you don't know how to game women through text, you won't be able to game her on the phone or in person. Men who don't know how to game, doesn't know how to game women period. So, don't blame texting for your lack of game. Brush up on your skills and get some game before you bash the methods that actually work. :yes:

Rex doesn't understand the correlation.

There's nothing wrong with a phone call, in fact you should talk to chicks, but texting is faster and easier way to spin plates and it saves you time.

Dude, stop lying. You mean to tell me that you can text as fast as the average person can speak?

But these anti texting guys try to spin it their way to make you think a phone call is your only solution to get a date and to get laid. That's another myth these guys will use to get you to think that texting is bad and a phone call is better.

By speaking to a chick on the I can convey the euthusiasm, personality, humor and charm that I did in the initial conversation. Where's as saying, "Hi.," doesn't mean anything.

If a chick wants to fvck you, she will want to fvck you regardless of what you use to communicate with. Chicks who don't care to fvck you won't, and your phone call isn't going to help you anyway.

Again, you share the secrets of this "Great Texting Game," with the rest of us.

Not one of these anti texting guys could ever answer this question I gave them. In fact, they ignore it every time I ask. So, I'll have to ask it again.

Link please.

How can you gauge any interest or hear the tone in her voice if she doesn't give a sh1t to talk to you on the phone?

You'll hear the disinterest in her voice.

Chicks who aren't interested in you, won't answer your phone call. You will never get to hear the tone in her voice.

And here's where you go into the realm of not knowing that the :cuss: it is that you're talking about. Women are attention fiends and attention is a source of mental sustenance for them, in addition, women will do damn near anything to assuage their boredom. After all, we're talking about individuals who will go out on a date with a man knowing damn well, he'll never get to know her carnally. These are also chicks that keep orbiters around to fulfill their insatiable need for attention. Again, Rex will use himself as an example.

Read and Do Not Do This http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=73178

Now rascal is going to say, "But she never had any interest in you." Rex knows this, but you isn't the point of me posting that thread. I did it illustrate the point that women will indeed use you as an instrument to assuage their boredom and as a means to get their attention fixes. However, through phone conversations and back when Yahoo! Chat was poppin', (damn I just hella date myself,) I was able to pique a chick's interest with good conversation. Again, I personally don't see how a woman's interest can be raised other binary code symbols. Personally, I really like to know the intricacies involving this because Rex really doesn't like to talk to chicks on the phone, initially anyway.

If it was a dude she liked, she would be talking to him via text.

Can't be also true of a phone call.

So, the dude who just called a chick and got her voicemail, will end up texting her anyway to see why she didn't answer or to ask her out again.

Some thirsty AFC dude would.

So, that defeats the whole purpose of your phone call to gauge her interest. Chicks who don't like you, won't want to talk to you. Period.

From personal experience, it depends.

Being "too available" or "too needy" is lame as well. You text chicks on your time when you're not busy.

:crackup:You're funny, dude. You're making it seem like dudes are taking time away from work and school to text chicks.

Interested chicks will be excited to hear from you no matter what method of communication you used. Chicks who are not, will blow you off with any method you use.

With that being said, can't an argument be made that about the efficacy calling because the interaction is more personal?

Men can abuse talking on the phone as well. But these anti texting guys won't tell you that.

Again, you're showing your ignorance in regards to the subject. I'm sure you do a search of "phone game," and read the threads, sooner or later you'll come to a post pertaining to some dude staying on the phone with a chick too long. For more recent posts involving giving a chick too much phone time, I reference it in my field reports about "T.H.Y.C.E.A.C.."

So, we have these anti texting guys who love to bash texting all the time, and they like tell us how bad it is.

The problem with you're analysis is that you're under empathizing the power of personal contact, (e.g. in person, the phone, or Skype,) and over empathizing the results that texting yields. A a series of witticisms written in textings acronyms isn't suddenly going to compel a chick to go out with you. What's taking place is reacting to the previous good feelings that you let her with in from the previous encounter. If texting is raising a chick's interest level to the levels that you're implying, you need to share that information with the rest of us and write a how-to guide so you can make money off your ideas and knowledge.

They will tell us how "Texting Kills Relationships"

Just curious, are you jealous of Harry? Dead a$$. From Rex's perspective, there seems to be a lot of deflection and self projection going on here.