The Invisibility of Women Starts in Their 30s

[BadBoy89]

Author of article:

- “I feel invisible now,” a friend recently said. She will be 30 in a month.
- talk to the average woman and the Moment feels more like tokenism; for many, a growing sense of invisibility, of gradual erasure, starts in their 30s.
- in China, age 27 is when unmarried women officially become “leftover pearls”
- the root of women’s so-called jadedness as they age: that to capitalize on the experience and confidence they’ve accrued, they must give the illusion of (relative) youth.

Feeling Invisible After 35

Much has been written on the invisibility of women in their 50s, but for many, the slow creep of feeling invisible to men, to society starts years earlier.

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Thoughts?

 

[member160292]

The Swaddle is an independent media company based in Mumbai, India.

Where do you guys go for your daily news lmao

 

[Bingo-Player]

In the last 10 years a lot of young women have worked extremely hard in a bid to commoditise themselves and make the dating marketplace ultra competitive

This is fantastic whilst you are young and hot property and have men of all ages swooning over you

You have the ability to create very high standards and effectively punch way above your true value

But the critical mistake modern women are making is assuming this incredible window of opportunity will remain open forever

They become SO fussy that even the men they could only dream of getting can't meet their expectations

And then BAM !! 30 comes

Your b00bs are starting to sag , your lip filler is lumpy, all the makeup has aged your skin , you have cellulite , possibly another mans child , you have no skills or knowledge in anything other than being relevant and sh1t testing men

The new wave of 20 something females are starting to dominate the flow of attention online and IRL

All of a sudden the top tier men who were previously snapping at your heels , are taking a long time to respond to your messages

You're on every single dating app , the quality of men isn't what you were used too and you're now actually having to do some grafting

All your h0e freinds are settling down and having children

The clock is ticking but that bitter pill is just too hard to swallow ....

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Gentlemen - this is the type of woman that says she becomes invisible at 30 and i can tell you in the next decade we are going to see millions of them

 

[SW15]

Women in the United States are not even close to being invisible in their 30s. I've been interacting with women in their 30s for a while. I've been dating childless women/women slightly younger than I am, but haven't leveled up enough in this competitive dating environment to date under 30.

These women are all in demand. If I met them through a tech-based method, they had hundreds of men expressing interest in them on a swipe app and/or in their social media DMs. I know women in my business life who are 30+ who get propositions for dates/sex on LinkedIn regularly, despite not actually seeking new penis.

While a 35 year old childless woman might not get the same quality of man as she could have gotten at 25, she'll still have plenty of options and some decent ones at 35. In general, the bottom 80% of men are invisible to women. So, if a woman is 35 and single, she might end up in a relationship by considering someone who was previously invisible to her. It might not be a Top 20% guy, but a woman who isn't overweight and childless in her 30s can still easily get a guy in the Top 40% of men, who will likely be a decent option.

 

[corrector]

The Swaddle is an independent media company based in Mumbai, India.

Where do you guys go for your daily news lmao

Useful comment as always.

 

[BMX]

30 has always been a wakeup call for women and men. Women in their 30's still peddling their feminist bull**** are not fooling anyone. You are on your own now. No one is going to fvcking come save you. When they realize that their loudmouth tactics are no longer fooling anyone, they go the get fat and get a cat route. "Dog moms" are no different.

 

[redskinsfan92]

Women in the United States are not even close to being invisible in their 30s. I've been interacting with women in their 30s for a while. I've been dating childless women/women slightly younger than I am, but haven't leveled up enough in this competitive dating environment to date under 30.

These women are all in demand. If I met them through a tech-based method, they had hundreds of men expressing interest in them on a swipe app and/or in their social media DMs. I know women in my business life who are 30+ who get propositions for dates/sex on LinkedIn regularly, despite not actually seeking new penis.

While a 35 year old childless woman might not get the same quality of man as she could have gotten at 25, she'll still have plenty of options and some decent ones at 35. In general, the bottom 80% of men are invisible to women. So, if a woman is 35 and single, she might end up in a relationship by considering someone who was previously invisible to her. It might not be a Top 20% guy, but a woman who isn't overweight and childless in her 30s can still easily get a guy in the Top 40% of men, who will likely be a decent option.

That's online with filters

 

[SW15]

That's online with filters

That's only partially true. Women in their 30s get approached in real life plenty.

 

[Stanley]

Gentlemen - this is the type of woman that says she becomes invisible at 30 and i can tell you in the next decade we are going to see millions of them

We are already seeing the majority of single, childless spinsters on anti depressants in the west en masse. They are a dime a dozen, can't imagine what it will look like in a decades time out west if things continue in their current trajectory.

 

[Snag87]

Not buying it, especially women who just turned 30. Create a profile of an attractive 30 year old childless woman on a popular dating app and report back to me on how "invisible" she is.

I'd say the primary issue for women in their 30s is commitment from high-quality men close to their age.

I'd say the drop-off is at its starkest when a woman reaches her late 30s. There's a world of difference in average attractiveness and SMV between ages 30-32 and 37-39 for women.

 

[SW15]

Not buying it, especially women who just turned 30. Create a profile of an attractive 30 year old childless woman on a popular dating app and report back to me on how "invisible" she is.

I agree. A 30 year old, childless woman who isn't overweight will have a huge swipe queue.

I'd say the primary issue for women in their 30s is commitment from high-quality men close to their age.

That's true, but that's not even that big of an issue. Plenty of women in their 30s have loads of options for commitment from medium quality men. The commitment market for women in their 30s is robust if they are childless. It's a little more difficult for single moms in their 30s, but I've seen plenty of cases of single moms in their 30s having more options than most childless men in their 30s.

I'd say the drop-off is at its starkest when a woman reaches her late 30s. There's a world of difference in average attractiveness and SMV between ages 30-32 and 37-39 for women.

This is true. A 37-39 year old childless woman who isn't overweight will still be in demand. By 37-39, she'll notice that her in-person approaches have dropped off and her social circle options have dwindled too because most of her friends are likely married women and married women with children under 10. However, if she's active on Instagram and puts herself out on the Big 3 swipe apps, that will more than make up the difference for not getting approached in-person.

 

[Stanley]

Not buying it, especially women who just turned 30. Create a profile of an attractive 30 year old childless woman on a popular dating app and report back to me on how "invisible" she is.

I'd say the primary issue for women in their 30s is commitment from high-quality men close to their age.

Any attractive woman who maintains her looks and health will always be seen by men her age or older. But you are correct in that an attractive man with options will likely not look her way by the 30s.

However, I think you are overlooking the premise here as the average woman does become less visible to men as her looks and fertility decline in her 30s. And even an attractive woman in her 30s may struggle with getting a man that meets her standard's from years past to commit because why should he? He may sleep with her, enjoy time with her and so forth, but if he is of value and wants to have children he will likely date a woman younger than him. (Now not always since the two may have strong chemistry, but I digress.)

Women know this and thus the whole wall debate comes into play. Some women can stave of the wall with their looks and maintenance of them, but you cannot alter biology. Even attractive women know this and if they want to have children in a healthy and timely manner with the right guy for long term monogamy then they need to prioritize finding a suitable partner. Those attractive women who still get attention from simpy or lower value men likely still want kids and are facing the same existential dilemma that all women must face, the wall.

There are still good looking women in their 30's and beyond no doubt, but relative to their younger years there is little to argue with in terms of the physicality component of attraction. There will always be men desperate for poon and women will always have options and be the choosers, but with age it does decline and they lose out on the prospects they once desired as the years stack up

 

[BadBoy89]

a 35 year old childless woman might not get the same quality of man as she could have gotten at 25, she'll still have plenty of options and some decent ones at 35.

a woman who isn't overweight and childless in her 30s can still easily get a guy in the Top 40% of men, who will likely be a decent option.

A 30 year old, childless woman who isn't overweight will have a huge swipe queue.

The commitment market for women in their 30s is robust if they are childless.

A 37-39 year old childless woman who isn't overweight will still be in demand.

So what’s better, childless or thin?

 

[jaymbrs]

Women in the United States are not even close to being invisible in their 30s. I've been interacting with women in their 30s for a while. I've been dating childless women/women slightly younger than I am, but haven't leveled up enough in this competitive dating environment to date under 30.

These women are all in demand. If I met them through a tech-based method, they had hundreds of men expressing interest in them on a swipe app and/or in their social media DMs. I know women in my business life who are 30+ who get propositions for dates/sex on LinkedIn regularly, despite not actually seeking new penis.

While a 35 year old childless woman might not get the same quality of man as she could have gotten at 25, she'll still have plenty of options and some decent ones at 35. In general, the bottom 80% of men are invisible to women. So, if a woman is 35 and single, she might end up in a relationship by considering someone who was previously invisible to her. It might not be a Top 20% guy, but a woman who isn't overweight and childless in her 30s can still easily get a guy in the Top 40% of men, who will likely be a decent option.

100%. I posted this before, plastic surgery, lip fillers, gastric bypass/Lipo/tummy tucks, BBLs and boob jobs have EXTENDED this for women far later than 30. Men are less likely to get any work done and with that said, dating is still lopsided and favor of women heavily. Men who stick to the mantra that we age better, our prime is later, etc need to be careful not to place all their eggs in that basket.

 

[jaymbrs]

There’s also a new dating cycle for western women. Marry and have kids as early as their twenties so they can divorce in their 30s, get paid and get their procedures done and date for fun. Theyre getting their cake and eating it too. My younger sister just did that.

 

[SW15]

There’s also a new dating cycle for western women. Marry and have kids as early as their twenties so they can divorce in their 30s, get paid and get their procedures done and date for fun. Theyre getting their cake and eating it too. My younger sister just did that.

I've not heard of this new cycle. I've been observing later and later first marriages and first births. Divorces around 40 with procedures done around the same time seems more accurate to me.

 

[jaymbrs]

I've not heard of this new cycle. I've been observing later and later first marriages and first births. Divorces around 40 with procedures done around the same time seems more accurate to me.

MANY of my female high school classmates have gone through that. Many single moms right now.

 

[Stanley]

There’s also a new dating cycle for western women. Marry and have kids as early as their twenties so they can divorce in their 30s, get paid and get their procedures done and date for fun. Theyre getting their cake and eating it too. My younger sister just did that.

MANY of my female high school classmates have gone through that. Many single moms right now.

These women sound like hot trash. How manipulative and self serving, not surprised to hear, but disheartening.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

This dude gives more fake news than CNN.

 

[SW15]

MANY of my female high school classmates have gone through that. Many single moms right now.

That's interesting. It seems like you and I run in different types of social circles. No one's social circle is a representative sample. The broader trend in the United States and most Western nations is that age at first marriage is increasing.