The Heterosexual Pick up vs. the Homosexual Pick-up.

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Originally posted by rgeere
It is not because they have it together, it is because the sex they encounter is unnatural and there is no risk of pregnancy. Plus, they are already out in the open with their sexuality and have no fear expressing it.

I think someone else awnsered this earlier if you took time to read. Maybe puertorican_lover if you can look past his paranoia.
Bull, they are the Master Don Juans, not us, wouldnt it be nice if our pick up rate was 100% like theirs? Hell, these days if a straight guy gets some puss-ay, it's nearly a f***ing act of God.
 

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I WANT to have the attitude of a DJ but a true DJ does get laid once in a while, remember that, I'd for once like to post a success story up, instead of another date ending with, "Thank you very much, i had a nice time, followed by the "Auntie" BS hug.
 

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If you want my honest input [and I believe you are asking for that] thereason you are now looking up to homosexuals is because you are still frustrated with women. It definatelly has less to do with sex than you are letting on ... I think there might be some other things about you that women are not finding attractive [attitude/body type]. I don't know what because I can't see you through a messageboard. But I will saythatI see some blatent signs of desperation radiating from you.

You may not realize it, but if this trend does not stop you may well end up a homosexual. I am not saying this to put you down, but to help you before it is too late.

Maybe I should advise that you make a new post explaining how some oft hese dates went, theway youacted, some of the things thatwere said, anything that can give us an indication of how the women are perceiving you. If you don't do this I really don't know how to help you.
 

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gay sex will always be easier to hook up, why? because both people understand each other. They both have a pvssy and both think in the same way, of course their going to hit it off straight away!! How can you not see that?

Add someone from the opposite sex in and everything changes, different logic is used and it's harder to apply empathy. I bet you know what your guy friends are thinking more then your girl friends.

girls understand girls

guys understand guys

no matter what your sexuality is.

you're thinking of this as if it's a girl and guy that's trying to hooking up, it's not, it's different.

you don't need a forum to help you meet and get along with your guy friends do you?

it's the same thing
 

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Okay. Gay men don't have to worry about pregnancy, though they do have to worry about the HIV and other STDs. But you assume that all gay men take it in the ass, which they don't.
Like someone said before, probably why queers can hook up so easily is because they ARE men and have a mans sex drive.

Also, consider that a guy could be well into his 20's before he comes out and may or may not have any sexual experience, or even if he does, it's not like he could openly see other men. It's not like he ****ed the captain of the football team on prom night or anything. All those guys in the gay bar are horny as ****, tired of being denied their sexuality and making up for lost time. They're out sampling the goods. It's like a big ol' gay buffet.

Maybe after some rowdy ****ing, they'll get to talking and realize they have other things in common. Maybe they'll have an actual committed relationship. If they get to the point where they want to have that relationship recognized, they're going to have a hell of a time (in most of the US, anyway), so why ****ing bother? Otherwise, it's back to the bar for another night of empty ****ing.

Hetero relationships are a different because women are taught that 1. Their virginity is a "gift" for the man they marry or some **** like that. 2. They can get pregnant, which leads into # 3. Guys want to **** them and will do whatever they can to get into her pants. Men will LIE to get laid. 4. Guys don't want to know that other men have been there before. Maybe they don't get too worked up if a woman in her 20's has been with a handful of men, but generally guys don't want to **** the town *****.

Wild college years and casual hookups/booty calls aside, women are groomed to be relationship oriented: find a man, get married, pop out some kids. Even if she has no interest in marriage and kids, she wants to make damn sure that the guy she's with isn't ****ing around on her.

Anyway, I forgot where I was going with this. You all probably think I'm a fag now, anyway.
 

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BTW, I know I'm new and all, but that's the most ****ing retarded comment I've seen in awhile. It would be like my addressing you by saying "Hey, I see you're from Texas. Only two things I know come from Texas...."

Originally posted by rgeere
You may not realize it, but if this trend does not stop you may well end up a homosexual. I am not saying this to put you down, but to help you before it is too late.
 

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Originally posted by rgeere
If you want my honest input [and I believe you are asking for that] thereason you are now looking up to homosexuals is because you are still frustrated with women. It definatelly has less to do with sex than you are letting on ... I think there might be some other things about you that women are not finding attractive [attitude/body type]. I don't know what because I can't see you through a messageboard. But I will saythatI see some blatent signs of desperation radiating from you.

You may not realize it, but if this trend does not stop you may well end up a homosexual. I am not saying this to put you down, but to help you before it is too late.

Maybe I should advise that you make a new post explaining how some oft hese dates went, theway youacted, some of the things thatwere said, anything that can give us an indication of how the women are perceiving you. If you don't do this I really don't know how to help you.
(LOL), No chance of that ever happening, I have ZERO sexual interest in men, but I am making a point, that we heterosexuals need messageboards and websites and to follow little rules and guidelines for any degree of success, and gay men and women, simply go out and get laid, and if the sex is good, they start LTRs. What the HELL are their secrets?.....Frustrated with women??, are there any males posting on these messageboards who arent? Attitude is ****y/funny, and body type is a 5-6 day a week weightlifter who watches his diet. At my workplace I am well liked, and people (men and women) are amazed that I dont have a girlfriend. But even a woman who flirts heavily, and tells others of her interest in me, still gives me the BS "Auntie" hug at the end of the date, "Thank you, I had a nice time, I need to go to bed now"....the sadly ironic part is that I know a guy (I work with) who is a homo, overweight, and he has a boyfriend!?? I hit the gym hard up to 6 days on. one off, and am closing in on a 405 bench already, and nothing......this one woman I was after only wanted "Ghetto Trash" type males, another only wanted Crack Dealers, and a third chose a guy who is all of 96 pounds soaking wet, and hasnt seen a weight room in his life, he even jokes with me that his whole body is about as big as my arm. When I found out he was f***ing the object of my desires, I was like "No F***king way, not him, he is built like a sickly 12 year old boy, but sure enough, it was true.
 

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Originally posted by Sazuki
Don't you think if you would get everything you want in life it would turn into a very boring and depressing experience?

It's a good thing getting girls takes hard work. Isn't hard work exactly what a man's character needs?

(Hmm, if homosexuality is a genetic thing, shouldn't they be slowly weeded out of the gene-pool because they don't actually pro-create? There is still hope for our cultural... aesthetics :D)
I disagree 110%. Life would simply be more interesting, if I could sample everything on the menu, instead of simply watching the food on display through a window.
 

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Originally posted by Kerouwacky
Okay. Gay men don't have to worry about pregnancy, though they do have to worry about the HIV and other STDs. But you assume that all gay men take it in the ass, which they don't.
Like someone said before, probably why queers can hook up so easily is because they ARE men and have a mans sex drive.

Also, consider that a guy could be well into his 20's before he comes out and may or may not have any sexual experience, or even if he does, it's not like he could openly see other men. It's not like he ****ed the captain of the football team on prom night or anything. All those guys in the gay bar are horny as ****, tired of being denied their sexuality and making up for lost time. They're out sampling the goods. It's like a big ol' gay buffet.

Maybe after some rowdy ****ing, they'll get to talking and realize they have other things in common. Maybe they'll have an actual committed relationship. If they get to the point where they want to have that relationship recognized, they're going to have a hell of a time (in most of the US, anyway), so why ****ing bother? Otherwise, it's back to the bar for another night of empty ****ing.

Hetero relationships are a different because women are taught that 1. Their virginity is a "gift" for the man they marry or some **** like that. 2. They can get pregnant, which leads into # 3. Guys want to **** them and will do whatever they can to get into her pants. Men will LIE to get laid. 4. Guys don't want to know that other men have been there before. Maybe they don't get too worked up if a woman in her 20's has been with a handful of men, but generally guys don't want to **** the town *****.

Wild college years and casual hookups/booty calls aside, women are groomed to be relationship oriented: find a man, get married, pop out some kids. Even if she has no interest in marriage and kids, she wants to make damn sure that the guy she's with isn't ****ing around on her.

Anyway, I forgot where I was going with this. You all probably think I'm a fag now, anyway.
Ok, this hit on some points I was trying to make. "All guys in the gay bar are horny as ****"....Arent heterosexual gals just as horny? Apparently not. Do women not enjoy sex? Women may be "groomed" to be relationship oriented, but they, at least the ones I have been after, love sleeping alone.
 

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You gay?

No?

Then don't worry about it.

You really think that there aren't gay "AFCs"? Everyone who's in the closet is pretty much a gay AFC.

Think about it...once you come out of the closet and admit you're into other men or other women if you're a lesbian, what do you have to lose?? How much lower can you go?

This is why it's so important to be comfortable with your sexuality, your desire for women. Once you do, you can't be embarassed by attempting to seduce a young lady, even if you fail. It's just "tha dogg in you".

Funny, isn't it? Society looks down on heterosexual sex as "naughty", while homos get together for the sole purpose of sexual entertainment (they can't have families, now can they??) and it's considered perfectly normal.
 

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Exactly. Thats why I said, before all the homophobes on here started freaking out, that homosexual men and women dont bother with games, or sleeping alone, like heterosexual women. Left up to heterosexual men, we'd be sleeping with 5-6 women at a time, per night. Left up to a typical heterosexual female, they'd sleep alone, because they "have to go to work in the morning"
 

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You're right, there are no gay single people whatsoever. Instantly after turning gay, you develop a lisp and become an "uber-DJ", capable of picking up anyone you set eyes on. In fact, having a penis in your butt has changed you overnight into a "ALPHA MALE"! You're relaxed, confident, and suave... all without having to work on it!

Yeah right. I'm probably better informed than the extremists who either shout "GAY PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE TOO!", and definitely know more than the other half who maintain that "HOMOS ARE GOING TO CAUSE THE COLLAPSE OF THE SPACE-TIME CONTINUUM!" I've worked with gay people before at a retail job, and in doing so learned a bit about their "culture". I'd first like to disspell a myth that several people have taken to posting: Gays don't think "Oh, I'm going to have sex because there isn't a chance of pregnancy!" Yippee!" :rolleyes: Using this logic, it would only stand to reason that virtually any girl would have anal sex with a guy, since the chances of pregnancy occurring are about zilch.

Now, I'd like to give you the reason that gay people seem to have more sex than straight people... They wear their sexuality on their sleeve. Why else would they work on developing their lisp? Why would they go to extremes to physically manifest their psychological condition (pink shirts, etc)? They want to be individuals, but in truth that's impossible because they are re-creating themselves to fit the "gay norm". The reason they might have more "success" in a club is because the entire club's theme is sexuality. Think about it. A "gay club" - what does that tell you? Instantly, you know that people there like members of the same sex. Guess what else... if you know it, don't you think they know it too? Guy "A" goes to a gay club. He sees Guy "B". He never would have talked to "B" at a straight club, but here he knows that even though "B" doesn't look like a homo, he must be... because he's at a gay club! They then proceed to do whatever. Amazing powers of deduction wouldn't you say?

In the end, it really doesn't matter... unless you're gay. Jack, it seems as though you're extremely frusterated with the way that your sex life is (or isn't) progressing. I mean, here you are comparing your relationship to girls as that of a guy watching "food on display through a window". You also seem to have built homosexuality up in your mind to some mythical level of DJ expertise that only gays and full-blown naturals can achieve. This isn't correct... and neither is your assumption that just because we're here posting on this site that we're all "frusterated with women". Speak for yourself, there are many on this board who are doing quite well. There may not be as many field reports or useful articles as there once were, but that doesn't mean that we should all look to homosexuality as being "key to all of our problems". Sorry, but I don't care how much a*s a gay guy is getting... because I'm not gay, and because it's a whole different ballgame. Perhaps you should start analyzing what straight people are doing that is successful instaed of remaking yourself to fit a gay set of ideals...

Oh wait, that's already been done for you. Perhaps you should read every single thread and complete every stage of the bootcamp, starting here:

http://www.jbspencer.com/djb



Oh yeah, and about the "homo sosuave lists" and all of the other flamebaiting, it reeks of insecurity and closemindedness. I mean, what kind of a real-life pickup guru would bother keeping a list of people's internet messageboard handles who he considered to be gay? What would the purpose of such a list be? I don't know which would actually be worse - having a list like that, or not having one but saying you did...
 

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Originally posted by diablo
You're right, there are no gay single people whatsoever. Instantly after turning gay, you develop a lisp and become an "uber-DJ", capable of picking up anyone you set eyes on. In fact, having a penis in your butt has changed you overnight into a "ALPHA MALE"! You're relaxed, confident, and suave... all without having to work on it!

Yeah right. I'm probably better informed than the extremists who either shout "GAY PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE TOO!", and definitely know more than the other half who maintain that "HOMOS ARE GOING TO CAUSE THE COLLAPSE OF THE SPACE-TIME CONTINUUM!" I've worked with gay people before at a retail job, and in doing so learned a bit about their "culture". I'd first like to disspell a myth that several people have taken to posting: Gays don't think "Oh, I'm going to have sex because there isn't a chance of pregnancy!" Yippee!" :rolleyes: Using this logic, it would only stand to reason that virtually any girl would have anal sex with a guy, since the chances of pregnancy occurring are about zilch.

Now, I'd like to give you the reason that gay people seem to have more sex than straight people... They wear their sexuality on their sleeve. Why else would they work on developing their lisp? Why would they go to extremes to physically manifest their psychological condition (pink shirts, etc)? They want to be individuals, but in truth that's impossible because they are re-creating themselves to fit the "gay norm". The reason they might have more "success" in a club is because the entire club's theme is sexuality. Think about it. A "gay club" - what does that tell you? Instantly, you know that people there like members of the same sex. Guess what else... if you know it, don't you think they know it too? Guy "A" goes to a gay club. He sees Guy "B". He never would have talked to "B" at a straight club, but here he knows that even though "B" doesn't look like a homo, he must be... because he's at a gay club! They then proceed to do whatever. Amazing powers of deduction wouldn't you say?

In the end, it really doesn't matter... unless you're gay. Jack, it seems as though you're extremely frusterated with the way that your sex life is (or isn't) progressing. I mean, here you are comparing your relationship to girls as that of a guy watching "food on display through a window". You also seem to have built homosexuality up in your mind to some mythical level of DJ expertise that only gays and full-blown naturals can achieve. This isn't correct... and neither is your assumption that just because we're here posting on this site that we're all "frusterated with women". Speak for yourself, there are many on this board who are doing quite well. There may not be as many field reports or useful articles as there once were, but that doesn't mean that we should all look to homosexuality as being "key to all of our problems". Sorry, but I don't care how much a*s a gay guy is getting... because I'm not gay, and because it's a whole different ballgame. Perhaps you should start analyzing what straight people are doing that is successful instaed of remaking yourself to fit a gay set of ideals...

Oh wait, that's already been done for you. Perhaps you should read every single thread and complete every stage of the bootcamp, starting here:

http://www.jbspencer.com/djb



Oh yeah, and about the "homo sosuave lists" and all of the other flamebaiting, it reeks of insecurity and closemindedness. I mean, what kind of a real-life pickup guru would bother keeping a list of people's internet messageboard handles who he considered to be gay? What would the purpose of such a list be? I don't know which would actually be worse - having a list like that, or not having one but saying you did...
But dont you see, Diablo, how the Gay Man doesnt f*** around at a Gay Bar with "Just going out to have fun" or grinding a guy for hours on the dance floor, and then at the end of the night, "Oh, I have to work in the morning, but I had a great time"....If two men are grinding at a gay club, I can assure you that they are mere hours away from making naked, sweaty man-love on a big bed, until the sun comes up and the one who had to work, will call in, or drink a lot of coffee. But with the Heterosexual World, it is completley different, we can waste time, energy, effort and $$$ at a club, on an interested woman, and she will leave at the end of the night with her girlfriends, for an all female "sleep over", where one of her girlfriends drags the hottie away from you in an ultimate "**** block" act. Can you imagine this happening at a gay bar? No F'n way, the gay men there KNOW they are there seeking sexual bliss. They arent there to "have fun" or merely dance and drink, they are there to get some a$$.

We as DJs are also out to get some a$$, but the prey we are after seems "asexual" or only interested in going to these "raves" or pulsating dances JUST TO DANCE!!!!

WOW, Am I the only one on the planet Earth who finds this concept retarded? Can you imagine in Saturday Night Fever, the "Faces" out for a night on the town at the 2001 Odessey, simply "out to have fun"....can you imagine the flim without the scene of Double J f***ing that girl in the car? Think that girl just goes to nightclubs "just to have fun?" HELL NO, she was out to get laid, and have some fun on the way, the 70's era woman was EXACTLY like today's Gay man, and today's modern heterosexual woman acts more like the castrated eunichs of the Ottoman Empire...

Asexual.
 

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The law of female choice.

Spot the difference:

1) A man can have impregnate 100 women a day (theoretically), 365 days a year.

2) A woman can get impregnated once every 9 months.

DUE TO BIOLOGICAL RESTRAINTS MEN WILL INSTINCTIVELY FUKK ALMOST ANYTHING AND WOMEN INSTINCTIVELY WILL NOT.

[This is why the whole "societal double standard" for promiscuity is BS. A slut truly IS more unnatural than a player.]
 

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Originally posted by JackPrescott
today's modern heterosexual woman acts more like the castrated eunichs of the Ottoman Empire...
Not the women I know who get it whenever they want it, emphasis on they.

This is actually description of men who complain of having little success with women. I see lots of sexually confident men at bars, picking up women. These men are not just spitting game, they are embracing their sexuality. Pook used to tell me this all of the time and the more observations I make, the more it makes sense.. All of the skills and success in the world outside of sex and relationships is rendered useless by a man who is not comfortable with his sexuality, no matter his orientation. True, all of the confidence in the world won't work if the woman isn't the least bit attracted to your physical apperance, but without it, no woman will leave the club to go running off with you. Likewise, it's important to have skills also because of the societal constraints on dating and relationships. Women have to look out for their reputations and their health. Even if you look their type, they want to make sure they can trust you. They want to make sure that you are not only a sexual being but that they will not feel like a whorr or otherwise regret hooking up with you.
 

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Originally posted by AMF
The law of female choice.

Spot the difference:

1) A man can have impregnate 100 women a day (theoretically), 365 days a year.

2) A woman can get impregnated once every 9 months.

DUE TO BIOLOGICAL RESTRAINTS MEN WILL INSTINCTIVELY FUKK ALMOST ANYTHING AND WOMEN INSTINCTIVELY WILL NOT.

[This is why the whole "societal double standard" for promiscuity is BS. A slut truly IS more unnatural than a player.]
You may have hit the nail on the proverbial head, except for one minute detail, and that is, this is the 21st Century, and women now have access to the greatest forms of contraception, and birth control in the history of mankind. Women, if they had the sex drive of males would have an interest, on the level of a gay or straight man, to f*** at all hours of the day and night. They do not. It, with them, is a matter of being happy sleeping alone and using their hands to pleasure themselves, I have met a woman who actually brags that her hand is better than any penis or male tongue!?
 

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Originally posted by Robbie
Not the women I know who get it whenever they want it, emphasis on they.

This is actually description of men who complain of having little success with women. I see lots of sexually confident men at bars, picking up women. These men are not just spitting game, they are embracing their sexuality. Pook used to tell me this all of the time and the more observations I make, the more it makes sense.. All of the skills and success in the world outside of sex and relationships is rendered useless by a man who is not comfortable with his sexuality, no matter his orientation. True, all of the confidence in the world won't work if the woman isn't the least bit attracted to your physical apperance, but without it, no woman will leave the club to go running off with you. Likewise, it's important to have skills also because of the societal constraints on dating and relationships. Women have to look out for their reputations and their health. Even if you look their type, they want to make sure they can trust you. They want to make sure that you are not only a sexual being but that they will not feel like a whorr or otherwise regret hooking up with you.
The women you know may actually be aliens, remember the old Television series "V"? Under their artificial skins they are a reptilian alien breed right out of a Star Trek flick. They sure as hell arent normal heterosexual females... I know a guy who is all you described, the sexually confident man, and yet, more often than not, he is alone, or "hangin' with his boys"....at a nightclub not long ago, I saw him with his shirt off, dancing sexily, not unlike a Chippendales Dancer, he has a ripped to shreds bodybuilder's physique, and is considered "hott" by many women, and while he did have some women dancing with him, he left the club alone, and slept alone that night. A woman, who was dancing with him, I have witnessed asking male guests to leave her home, (After a night of partying) so she could "get some sleep" and ALL of these males (A career police officer, and a successful business owner among the other 4) all went home with blue nuts because they werent "ghetto" enough for her to be sexually attracted to them. They would have all gladly f***ed her, but she wanted nothing to do with any of them......ASEXUAL FEMALE. AKA "nonsexual"

OK, let me get this straight, and YOU may have hit the nail on the head on why we, as heterosexual males have things so confusing, and frustrating, and why homosexual male and females have nightly orgies on demand.

"Societal constraints on dating and relationships" Even with an AIDS epidemic at hand, the male homosexual lets NOTHING stand in his way of sexual conquest, his sex drives are FAR too strong, as are those of his prey. Yet, we as heterosexual males have to deal with these bulls**t "societal constraints" which basically makes it real hard to hook up, much less actually get laid.

"They want to make sure you are a sexual being, but not feel like a ***** hooking up with you".....WHAT THE F***????!!!

THEY CANNOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS!!! So what is it, be the hated and dreaded male platonic friend, the safe haven, who she can run to, and a shoulder to cry on, albeit a clothed shoulder, so she will feel "safe" not a naked one......or on the other hand, be the mad, drooling rapist, who will steal their innocence, and ravish them like the **** craving sluts that they are? WTF? WE ARE HUMAN, we both, men and women, have sexual desires.....the male homosexual makes no qualms about this little fact, they want to have sex, and they do. Male gay man goes to a gay bar, sees a man he likes, and a drink and a dance later, they are off to his place for a night of Naked Twister....no strings attached.

A heterosexual male wants to have sex, and first he must go hunt his prey, a straight bar, single her out, the whole 9 yards with the Kino, and the "****y funny" and all the rest, and MAYBE IF she is sexually attracted, three weeks later, after many phone calls and messages, and coffee and flirting, he gets her to dinner, gets some alcohol in her, makes small talk about music and movies and concerts, ect, and then after even more Kino and good eye contact, a movie, and hand holding, and footsie, and then after the movie, he is harder than a crowbar, and hot and bothered, and he walks her to her car, where he gets a BS story about her having to work in the AM and a BS "Auntie" hug and the air kiss, and she drives off into the night, and he finds himself back in front of the computer, pumping his sexual organ madly to the www.pamanderson.com website, and screaming a gutteral cry of sexual frustration and anguish as he has a climax that would have felt 1,000 times better inside a tight wet vagina, than his right hand, and as he wipes the mess, before he watches reruns of "Matlock" he wonders what it would be like if women were more like gay men.
 
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