"The Good Guy" is overrated. Being a jerk is the way to go.

[sstype]

Whenever I read an article/thread about jerks vs. nice guys....it always talks about taking a middle-of-the-road approach

"Don't be a insecure jerk but don't be a pushover nice guy, be the confident good guy that all women crave"

I find that in practice, this did not translate into women throwing themselves at me or being any more available. My friends are also "good guys" in the sense that they are confident, playful, outgoing, yet nice dudes. They don't have women fighting over each other to kick it with them.

The only time women have ever given me a positive response was when I just did not give a f*ck about trying to walk a tightrope between nice guy/jerk and just acted like a jerk.

I have a hot temper when I get upset, but would suppress it thinking it was the DJ way. Whenever my girl pissed me off, just smirk and come up with some witty comeback right? Honestly, showing her my anger and telling her to f*ck off, whenever she tried to start bs seemed to work more effectively and get her panties more wet than trying to play "every girl's dream guy"


I think a lot of women (particularly attractive ones) are incapable of taking kindness or any kind of rational pragmatic behavior, as indicators of a "confident" man. You can't even be 50-50 nice guy/jerk with this because she'll just take the nice guy part, project that over your entire persona and reject you for being "too nice"

Maybe they've become so jaded and have such low expectations of men they can't seem to appreciate a guy that truly has it together. Or they think he's too good to be true since Good Men are so rare and would rather just deal with the devil she knows and can read easily rather than risk get her heart broken by this "dream guy"

What's the point of waffling around trying to please every girl anyways....the nice ones will only see your jerk side and think you're a player and the party girls will think you're too boring because you can hold an intelligent conversation.

Thoughts?

 

[comic_relief]

I personally just want to act like me. I am beyond "Is this AFC, being a nice guy or jerk, nerdy, or whatever" I don't attach labels to anything anymore. Life is far too fluid for that. I know a guy that is a jerk that plays magic the gathering and I know the nice guy that plays sports all the time.

Its better to be real with a girl. If you get upset at a girl, than just explain it to her in a calm manner. If you are happy with her, than just let her know.

People want to have real people, not a cardboard cutout. I suppose that is what being a DJ is really all about. Just being your best self and saying to hell with the rest of the world.

As to girls not being able to accept kindness: if they are really not willing to accept those things, than is that the type of girl that you want? (disclaimer: not the best in the very beginning couple of weeks, but later it should be fine). I know I don't want that kind of girl because I am a pretty romantic guy and have found all girls that I have dated loved me being romantic.

- comic_relief

 

[DJDamage]

I amplify and reduce my jerk side based on the type of girl I am dealing with.

Usually the hotter the women are the more likely they are to reciprocate to jerk game.

Why do you think there is a website that is called "hot chicks with douchebags" that exists?!

 

[PapiChulo]

This topic has been discussed a lot already. I believe there is a consensus on what to do to actually amplify your success rate.

the jerk thing is just as overrated as the good guy- it is about what best works for you and what kind of women you want.

 

[Maxtro]

I don't know how to be a jerk

 

[f283000]

Like PapiChulo said it depends on what works for you and what you want.

My example:
I'm not going to lie and tell you guys that I attract the hb 8-9's you see at the club with the jerks or anywhere else.

I attract the 7s, you know the cute girls that make an average pretty girlfriend but not the hottest girl at the club type of female. Not the type of female that give you massive pre-selection and social proof to the point that other females that see you walk with your gf want to f*** you and guys start playa hatin on you

With the type of women I attract naturally through my looks I can afford to be myself. I can afford to be a confident "good guy" that is my true personality. I can afford not to act like an a**hole.

However, being my natural self, being a confident "good guy" has gotten me shut down and ignored like if I was nothing with the hot blondes/hb 8-9s you would normally see at a club or outside a club. It has gotten me shut down with most women that men would consider 8 and above not just in the club but outside the club.

So while it's true that you can be a good guy (as long as you're confident but never nice) that will only get you so far and get you mostly a certain type of woman on the looks scale here in america.

Notice what's in bold.

So whoever tells you that you just need to be a confident good guy or you just need to be a jerk THEY ARE WRONG! The only thing that is for certain is that women hate "nice guys." In order to get any woman 7 and above you need confidence and game now a days due to the over inflated price of the pu$$y.

So while it's true you can be a confident good guy and get women you are going to fail trying to pick up a hot hb 9 blonde with that attitude. Some women you just need to be a jerk to attract.

 

[zekko]

I don't know how to be a jerk

That's a fair point. Just what is a jerk, anyway? Do you know any personally? I've asked a few times here "what is a jerk?" and all the answers I got were glowing descriptions of an admirable person. Characteristics like "a strong, confident male, who makes his own rules and does what he wants".

Now compare that to the definitions I found in several online dictionaries:

"a person regarded with contempt, esp a stupid or ignorant person"
"tedious and ineffectual person"
"a stupid or worthless person"
"an annoyingly stupid or foolish person"
"an unlikable person; especially : one who is cruel, rude, or small-minded"
"A foolish, rude, or contemptible person"

Not quite the same, is it?

 

[Maxtro]

That's a fair point. Just what is a jerk, anyway? Do you know any personally? I've asked a few times here "what is a jerk?" and all the answers I got were glowing descriptions of an admirable person. Characteristics like "a strong, confident male, who makes his own rules and does what he wants".

Now compare that to the definitions I found in several online dictionaries:

"a person regarded with contempt, esp a stupid or ignorant person"
"tedious and ineffectual person"
"a stupid or worthless person"
"an annoyingly stupid or foolish person"
"an unlikable person; especially : one who is cruel, rude, or small-minded"
"A foolish, rude, or contemptible person"

Not quite the same, is it?

Actually I do know one person who can be jerky.

Basically he doesn't care at all about what people think of him. He does and says what he wants. Most people think he's crazy, but I heard he gets a lot of girls.

 

[DJDamage]

What is a jerk or an a$$hole? The mirror image of a woman who is full of herself.

Beautiful Women are natural jerks due to the majority of men bending over backwards to accommodate them and let them get away with bad behavior thus creating a walking talking monsters.

Some of the qualities exhibit by these women:

- They think highly of themselves- very narcissistic

- Think the world owes them something

- Are selfish, self serving, self absorbed and self centered.

- Do not care about others but themselves

- lack empathy

- Cold and calculating.

- Live at the moment

Majority of guys are too much of a nice guys so when they are dealing with very attractive women (8 and above) they essentially turn these women off with their niceness. When an a$$hole type of a man treats a woman like how she treats the world then she gets humbled by him and turns into a nice girl FOR HIM.

If you want to be with these women, you got to let your dark side shine through.

 

[sstype]

What is a jerk or an a$$hole? The mirror image of a woman who is full of herself.

Beautiful Women are natural jerks due to the majority of men bending over backwards to accommodate them and let them get away with bad behavior thus creating a walking talking monsters.

Some of the qualities exhibit by these women:

- They think highly of themselves- very narcissistic

- Think the world owes them something

- Are selfish, self serving, self absorbed and self centered.

- Do not care about others but themselves

- lack empathy

- Cold and calculating.

- Live at the moment

Majority of guys are too much of a nice guys so when they are dealing with very attractive women (8 and above) they essentially turn these women off with their niceness. When an a$$hole type of a man treats a woman like how she treats the world then she gets humbled by him and turns into a nice girl FOR HIM.

If you want to be with these women, you got to let your dark side shine through.

So true.....my girlfriend can be an utter b*tch to guys because of all the attention they give her, yet she's putty in my hands b/c i throw it right back at her when she tries to pull the same act on me. Sometimes, you have to fight fire with fire.

Good Post Damage.

 

[Sabol]

Actually I do know one person who can be jerky.

Basically he doesn't care at all about what people think of him. He does and says what he wants. Most people think he's crazy, but I heard he gets a lot of girls.

That's me in a nutshell. I've been called every name in the book (psycho, a-hole, fag, etc.) I just laugh it off as I'm drowning in a sea of pvssy.

 

[tiburon_blanco]

I agree with the OP.

When in doubt, ALWAYS tend towards the "jerk" side of things.

 

[trrush]

when in doubt, go by WWJD. what would a Jerk do

good advice.

got that from some post in here a week ago or so.

 

[typical]

Actually screw the nice guy/jerk debate once and for all.

Just follow your gut end of story, no ifs or buts just listen to your gut and the voice of reason in your head and go with the flow.

You get angry show her your anger you feel nice you show her your niceness. If for any reason she flakes on you gives you drama or crap fro no reason or decides to lie cheat betray you etc. Then cut out the bit(h and move on not worth the effort.

I'm over the whole playing games part with many girls I go for what I want and if it doesn't work meh who cares next, the time and effort wasted on working out what a girl means or even working things out with a girl are in the end not worth it.

You have to be true to yourself and you will get what you want and if after 5 years it still ends badly meh fu(k it learn another few lessons in life and move on.

What I just posted above is what is a true jerk is, a guy that doesn't care what you think about him as he will do what he wants when he wants and you are only here for the ride, you screw around with him and he'll stop the car and tell you to get the fu(k out on the side of the highway.

Many many 5 year old girls are in a grownup womans body, take this line to heart and you will be fine.

 

[SeymourCake]

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